[quote]LTKO wrote:
well fightingirish, i read some of your posts, and you know your stuff. i wont argue with that. ive never been someone brave or daring sadly. well i hope to prove you wrong someday then. [/quote]
Listen, I’m not intentionally trying to be harsh. My simple point is that this for you is like so many things in life- if you really want it, and if you really want to learn to defend yourself or get into sport fighting or whatever your goal is, you will do it.
Come hell or fuckin high water, you’ll do it. And if you don’t, your heart wasn’t in it.
And trust me- in this game, where whether you win or lose, you get fucked up - if your heart ain’t it, just stay the hell away.
And you, being in the Singapore Army, are surrounded with people that are taught the stuff you’re looking for. Seek them out, even if it’s embarrassing, or you think that they won’t help you. Seek out the help, and if they won’t help you, find someone that will.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Also- being brave or daring doesn’t matter nearly as much as being persistent and determined.[/quote]
I had to write this down. Excellent quote for those who are overwhelmed when starting.
Issues with Taekwando and Karate
-Purpose
Taekwando (from hereon out will be referred to as TKD) is generally accepted as a sport now adays with very strict rules on the performance of techniques therefore training will be geared toward that specific competition (more later)
Karate is a martial arts with roots in medieval era warfighting necessities. Now this is a generality not the gospel truth, however, it appears that the methods of karate have evolved very little in the years after its expansion beyond the Japanese islands. In addition, sport Karate has the same issues as TKD.
-Training and Instruction
TKD has very specific tournament based objectives and therefore the training will be geared to as such rather than general self-defense purposesd. In addition, due to the technical requirement of the training, applicability is questionable until high levels of competency is reached. Also generally few high level instructors cross train in other martial arts and have a very one dimensional background of hand to hand combat.
Karate suffers once again from much of the same, also, in addition training is conducted often like it has for many years, instead of updating training methodologies. Sparring sometimes is not allowed for a long time, which sparring is accepted as having the greatest carryover to hand to hand combat.
Also neither art has an answer to the ground game intrinsic to the art. Perhaps that is why you saw the development of ju-jitsu in Japan, as sort of a martial arts arms race, but that is a topic for another day.
[quote]TonyBlue wrote:
why can’t u guys just explain to him some of the differences instead of bashing him around? kids and their hormones, jesus[/quote]
The guy has commented on some other posts on here, and we got a feel for his character a little. He’s not just someone who came on here that got berated.
stiff isn’t far from how I would describe karate, during your first few years of training your techniques will be taught very formally and precise. 3rd kyu students onwards should start to develop fluidity in the techniques. you walk before you run, you need to learn the right rom etc before you start developing in your own style. learn to do it right, THEN do it your way.
Gracie Ju-jitsu. Combined with a striking form I think is best. Ive been training on and off since I was a kid. Usually the “karate only” group gets slaughtered in MMA. I think a mix is best