My Trip To See Bushido Bad Boy!

Training Injuries
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[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Alpha F wrote:

I am scared.

I can’t believe you are scared, just procrastinating :wink:

BBB[/quote]

Very good at psychology as well, I see.
Either that or you can really read women’s minds.

: D

I acquiesce.
I admit I am procrastinating. No one likes to be faced with their weaknesses and this assessment will show me up…sigh
Let me find some humility here on my hand bag and apply the lipstick of courage to commit to the corrective exercises and I will see to it.

I see the program LR is on and I need to know I will be faithful.

Will PM you soon. By writing it here I show my first step towards commitment.

hate you

lol…

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Month 2 Update

To be honest, I don’t think much has changed much this month but I’ll add what’s going on anyway;

1/ I’m still stretching the Soleus 2-3 times a day. It feels really good once stretched out, but seems to tighten up again within an hour or so. I’m hoping one day they’ll stay relaxed for longer before tightening up again.

2/ The ‘small feet’ exercise seems to be maintaining my current foot size/arch. I’m sitting just under foot size 8 1/2 right now which is just over a half size less then when I started these exercises. This is the same as last month so they haven’t gotten any smaller.

3/ I’m now using the Omni massager for 15-20 mins on most evenings now, while watching TV. Whenever I feel a little tightness somewhere I use it. I need to get myself one of those contraptions you had from Thailand though, the Omni isn’t precise enough to hit smaller or deeper muscles.

4/ PROBLEM= The Erectors, when I started doing these I could feel them becoming activated and a little pumped after the exercise you showed me. After a while, I could even feel them when not working them, and they felt a little bigger, but for some reason that’s all gone in a reverse now. The seem to be non-existant again, I don’t know what I’ve done wrong.

As for everything else, Pec Minor, DB bends and adductors etc are all going well. Nothing to really report on those.

Yesterday I started on Isotretinoin, I’ve had skin problems for the past 2 years and tried everything to deal with it and this was the last resort.

So after a consultation with the Head of Dermatology at the local hospital and a blood test (lipids), I started on this crazy Med which has the biggest and most fucked up side effect list I’ve ever seen! I don’t know how it’ll effect my training, but I’ve been told to expect muscle and bone aches, which are even more pronounced in those that exercise (Great!)…

A dermatologist at the hospital is the only person that can prescribe Isotretinoin in the UK, and the only Pharmacy that can dispense them, is the one at the Hospital. Anyone ever wait to get a prescription filled at the Hospital Pharmacy? What a waste of an HOUR!

LR

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Month 2 Update

To be honest, I don’t think much has changed much this month but I’ll add what’s going on anyway;

1/ I’m still stretching the Soleus 2-3 times a day. It feels really good once stretched out, but seems to tighten up again within an hour or so. I’m hoping one day they’ll stay relaxed for longer before tightening up again.

2/ The ‘small feet’ exercise seems to be maintaining my current foot size/arch. I’m sitting just under foot size 8 1/2 right now which is just over a half size less then when I started these exercises. This is the same as last month so they haven’t gotten any smaller.

3/ I’m now using the Omni massager for 15-20 mins on most evenings now, while watching TV. Whenever I feel a little tightness somewhere I use it. I need to get myself one of those contraptions you had from Thailand though, the Omni isn’t precise enough to hit smaller or deeper muscles.

4/ PROBLEM= The Erectors, when I started doing these I could feel them becoming activated and a little pumped after the exercise you showed me. After a while, I could even feel them when not working them, and they felt a little bigger, but for some reason that’s all gone in a reverse now. The seem to be non-existant again, I don’t know what I’ve done wrong.

As for everything else, Pec Minor, DB bends and adductors etc are all going well. Nothing to really report on those.

Yesterday I started on Isotretinoin, I’ve had skin problems for the past 2 years and tried everything to deal with it and this was the last resort.

So after a consultation with the Head of Dermatology at the local hospital and a blood test (lipids), I started on this crazy Med which has the biggest and most fucked up side effect list I’ve ever seen! I don’t know how it’ll effect my training, but I’ve been told to expect muscle and bone aches, which are even more pronounced in those that exercise (Great!)…

A dermatologist at the hospital is the only person that can prescribe Isotretinoin in the UK, and the only Pharmacy that can dispense them, is the one at the Hospital. Anyone ever wait to get a prescription filled at the Hospital Pharmacy? What a waste of an HOUR!

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[quote]London Runner wrote:
Month 2 Update

To be honest, I don’t think much has changed much this month but I’ll add what’s going on anyway;

1/ I’m still stretching the Soleus 2-3 times a day. It feels really good once stretched out, but seems to tighten up again within an hour or so. I’m hoping one day they’ll stay relaxed for longer before tightening up again.

2/ The ‘small feet’ exercise seems to be maintaining my current foot size/arch. I’m sitting just under foot size 8 1/2 right now which is just over a half size less then when I started these exercises. This is the same as last month so they haven’t gotten any smaller.

4/ PROBLEM= The Erectors, when I started doing these I could feel them becoming activated and a little pumped after the exercise you showed me. After a while, I could even feel them when not working them, and they felt a little bigger, but for some reason that’s all gone in a reverse now. The seem to be non-existant again, I don’t know what I’ve done wrong.[/quote]

I told you.
See, this is why I am not doing it.

: )

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[quote]London Runner wrote:

Yesterday I started on Isotretinoin, I’ve had skin problems for the past 2 years and tried everything to deal with it and this was the last resort.

[/quote]

I am assuming you tried Retin-A?

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[quote]London Runner wrote:

Isotretinoin [/quote]

What is your daily dose? I find up to 30mg pretty tolerable, only dry lips and nasal membranes. I am trying the low dose long term method out though. I usually take 10mg a day and 20mg if I get a flare up. Amazing stuff IMO. But even at 10mg a day my lips still get chapped.

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" Disease Treatment

Pharmacologic doses of retinoids

Retinoids are used at pharmacologic doses to treat several conditions, including retinitis pigmentosa, acute promyelocytic leukemia, and various skin diseases. It is important to note that treatment with high doses of natural or synthetic retinoids overrides the body’s own control mechanisms; therefore, retinoid therapies are associated with potential side effects and toxicities. Additionally, all of the retinoid compounds have been found to cause birth defects. Thus, women who have a chance of becoming pregnant should avoid treatment with these medications. Retinoids tend to be very long acting: side effects and birth defects have been reported to occur months after discontinuing retinoid therapy (2). The retinoids discussed below are prescription drugs and should not be used without medical supervision.

Diseases of the skin

Both natural and synthetic retinoids have been used as pharmacologic agents to treat disorders of the skin. Etretinate and acitretin are retinoids that have been useful in the treatment of psoriasis, while tretinoin (Retin-A) and isotretinoin (Accutane) have been used successfully to treat severe acne. Retinoids most likely affect the transcription of skin growth factors and their receptors (2). Use of pharmacological doses of retinoids by pregnant women causes birth defects (see Safety in pregnancy)."

Given that Isotretinoin and Retin-A are synthetic forms of Vitamin A why don’t you do some research on Vitamin A injections?

Whereas I found a had an auto immune response to synthetic progesterone injections the natural cream is milder but kinder and does it’s job quite nicely.

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[quote]Alpha F wrote:
London Runner wrote:

Yesterday I started on Isotretinoin, I’ve had skin problems for the past 2 years and tried everything to deal with it and this was the last resort.

I am assuming you tried Retin-A?

[/quote]

I was using Tetralysal 300 (Lymecycline 408mg) for about a year, with Retin-A gel. But now that I’m on the Iso I have to stop the Retin-A gel because it’ll dry out my skin too much.

I still have 1.5 tubes of the gel left though. It’s supposed to be able to drastically fade stretch marks, so I might use it for that.

LR

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[quote]BenceJones wrote:
London Runner wrote:

Isotretinoin

What is your daily dose? I find up to 30mg pretty tolerable, only dry lips and nasal membranes. I am trying the low dose long term method out though. I usually take 10mg a day and 20mg if I get a flare up. Amazing stuff IMO. But even at 10mg a day my lips still get chapped.

[/quote]

The Doc has me on 40mg (2 caps) a day, which is a half dose, I have to go back for blood tests in 6 weeks, and if I’m reacting OK to the Isotretinoin then I’ll have to up my dose to the full 80mg a day (4 caps).

The max dose is 1mg per Kg of bodyweight.

The dry lips have kicked in today (day 2), but no dry nose or skin yet.

How long has your Doc had you on it for? I thought the max run was 16 weeks? Or are you taking is because of skin reactions from AAS?

LR

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[quote]Alpha F wrote:
I told you.
See, this is why I am not doing it.

: )

[/quote]

Why, what’s up?

Believe me, I’m doing a lot better now then before I went to see Bushy. Things can’t always go as swimmingly as we’d like.

LR

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[quote]Alpha F wrote:
" Disease Treatment

Pharmacologic doses of retinoids

Retinoids are used at pharmacologic doses to treat several conditions, including retinitis pigmentosa, acute promyelocytic leukemia, and various skin diseases. It is important to note that treatment with high doses of natural or synthetic retinoids overrides the body’s own control mechanisms; therefore, retinoid therapies are associated with potential side effects and toxicities. Additionally, all of the retinoid compounds have been found to cause birth defects. Thus, women who have a chance of becoming pregnant should avoid treatment with these medications. Retinoids tend to be very long acting: side effects and birth defects have been reported to occur months after discontinuing retinoid therapy (2). The retinoids discussed below are prescription drugs and should not be used without medical supervision.[/quote]

Believe me I’ve read all about the side effects, and my GP printed me out a massive list of potential sides before he did me the referral to the hospital to see the dermatologist.

I know there’s a more things that can go wrong for women then men. It’s a good thing Guys can’t get pregnant right?

[quote]Diseases of the skin

Both natural and synthetic retinoids have been used as pharmacologic agents to treat disorders of the skin. Etretinate and acitretin are retinoids that have been useful in the treatment of psoriasis, while tretinoin (Retin-A) and isotretinoin (Accutane) have been used successfully to treat severe acne. Retinoids most likely affect the transcription of skin growth factors and their receptors (2). Use of pharmacological doses of retinoids by pregnant women causes birth defects (see Safety in pregnancy)."

http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/vitamins/vitaminA/index.html[/quote]

I just have plain old Acne Vulgaris. I had the usual bout as a teenager, although it wasn’t as bad as most people have it. And then it kicked in again about 2 years ago (aged 24), this was about a year before I started trainnig.

First the GP had me on;
Doxicycline (12 months) + Benzyl Peroxide (2.5% 6 months and 5% 6 months)

Neither of these worked so I then went onto;
Tetralysal 300 (12 months) + Retin-A Gel (0.025% 12 months)

I was using both of these until Wednesday when I had my last consultation with the Dermo, and picked up my Isotretinoin prescription. I started using the Isotretinoin at 40mg a day from yesterday.

[quote]Given that Isotretinoin and Retin-A are synthetic forms of Vitamin A why don’t you do some research on Vitamin A injections?

Whereas I found a had an auto immune response to synthetic progesterone injections the natural cream is milder but kinder and does it’s job quite nicely. [/quote]

To be honest I kind of feel iffy about injecting myself. And I don’t think I’ll be able to convince my doctor to give me Vit-A injections. Doctors only like to prescribe what they know works and what the ‘textbooks’ tell them. So I’m going to have to stick out my prescription.

It’s only 16 weeks max! I can hold out.

LR

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[quote]London Runner wrote:

The Doc has me on 40mg (2 caps) a day, which is a half dose, I have to go back for blood tests in 6 weeks, and if I’m reacting OK to the Isotretinoin then I’ll have to up my dose to the full 80mg a day (4 caps).

The max dose is 1mg per Kg of bodyweight.

The dry lips have kicked in today (day 2), but no dry nose or skin yet.

How long has your Doc had you on it for? I thought the max run was 16 weeks? Or are you taking is because of skin reactions from AAS?

LR[/quote]

40mg shouldn’t be too horrible, but the “blood boogers” do suck! I am 26 and had shitty skin before I even touched any AAS. I didn’t have much bacne but my face would always have acne on it no matter what.

There have been a few studies on low dose 10-20mg long term with good results.

Slowly my skin is getting better.

I am self-prescribed at the moment. At an average dose of 10mg it shouldn’t affect my lipid profile much. In a couple months I will get blood tests but I have no way of knowing yet that it is not having an effect.

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[quote]Alpha F wrote:
…
Given that Isotretinoin and Retin-A are synthetic forms of Vitamin A why don’t you do some research on Vitamin A injections?

Whereas I found a had an auto immune response to synthetic progesterone injections the natural cream is milder but kinder and does it’s job quite nicely. [/quote]

Do not assume that “natural” vitamin A is safer or less toxic than the synthetic forms. Vitamin A in high amounts is toxic. You cannot generalize your experience with different forms of progesterone to vitamin A molecules, or any other molecules, really.

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[quote]BenceJones wrote:
40mg shouldn’t be too horrible, but the “blood boogers” do suck! I am 26 and had shitty skin before I even touched any AAS. I didn’t have much bacne but my face would always have acne on it no matter what.[/quote]

40mg may not be that bad, but I’m probably going to be on 80mg a day in 6 weeks time. I’m 26 as well, I’ve never had bad backne, my main problem areas are face, shoulders and chest.

I’m hoping this gets rid of it for good.

I wouldn’t mind taking a lower dose, but for now I’m just going to stick with the prescribed dose.

That’s good to hear. It worked for my brother as well, unfortunately this is a genetic thing, my brother had it, as well as a few cousins as well.

I don’t know how scripts work out there, but I’m guessing it’s cheaper to self-prescribe then to use the doc.

I get it for free! Good old NHS…

LR

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[quote]London Runner wrote:
Alpha F wrote:
I told you.
See, this is why I am not doing it.

: )

Why, what’s up?

Believe me, I’m doing a lot better now then before I went to see Bushy. Things can’t always go as swimmingly as we’d like.

LR[/quote]

LOL

You don’t know me…I am just up to my usual antics!

I was just being playful with you!

When I read your post I just thought “yep, that would be me” and I bet LR is committed.
I will see Sensei Bushymaster ( I think he is due a username upgrade, don’t you? We all know he ain’t bad, eh? ) as soon as I can be committed to the exercises. Like you, I know I am going to contract and tense up again and again and again…

May the force be with him.

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[quote]andersons wrote:
Alpha F wrote:
…
Given that Isotretinoin and Retin-A are synthetic forms of Vitamin A why don’t you do some research on Vitamin A injections?

Whereas I found a had an auto immune response to synthetic progesterone injections the natural cream is milder but kinder and does it’s job quite nicely.

Do not assume that “natural” vitamin A is safer or less toxic than the synthetic forms. Vitamin A in high amounts is toxic. You cannot generalize your experience with different forms of progesterone to vitamin A molecules, or any other molecules, really.

[/quote]

I believe I specifically said “why don’t you do some research”.

Thank you.

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[quote]London Runner wrote:

It’s a good thing Guys can’t get pregnant right?[/quote]

For you yes, for me no.

: )[quote]

I just have plain old Acne Vulgaris. I had the usual bout as a teenager, although it wasn’t as bad as most people have it. And then it kicked in again about 2 years ago (aged 24), this was about a year before I started trainnig.
First the GP had me on;
Doxicycline (12 months) + Benzyl Peroxide (2.5% 6 months and 5% 6 months)
Neither of these worked so I then went onto;
Tetralysal 300 (12 months) + Retin-A Gel (0.025% 12 months)
I was using both of these until Wednesday when I had my last consultation with the Dermo, and picked up my Isotretinoin prescription. I started using the Isotretinoin at 40mg a day from yesterday.[/quote]

I feel for you as I have always had good skin. Your medical record for acne seems brutal![quote]

To be honest I kind of feel iffy about injecting myself.[/quote]
I understand.[quote]

And I don’t think I’ll be able to convince my doctor to give me Vit-A injections. [/quote]
They would not as that might actually cure you. God forbid our tax money stop going to the pharmaceutical synthetic players.[quote]

Doctors only like to prescribe what they know works and what the ‘textbooks’ tell them.[/quote]
Doctors are like new age “quacks” they sell ‘hope’.

You will see it through.

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[quote]London Runner wrote:
BenceJones wrote:
London Runner wrote:

Isotretinoin

What is your daily dose? I find up to 30mg pretty tolerable, only dry lips and nasal membranes. I am trying the low dose long term method out though. I usually take 10mg a day and 20mg if I get a flare up. Amazing stuff IMO. But even at 10mg a day my lips still get chapped.

The Doc has me on 40mg (2 caps) a day, which is a half dose, I have to go back for blood tests in 6 weeks, and if I’m reacting OK to the Isotretinoin then I’ll have to up my dose to the full 80mg a day (4 caps).

The max dose is 1mg per Kg of bodyweight.

The dry lips have kicked in today (day 2), but no dry nose or skin yet.

How long has your Doc had you on it for? I thought the max run was 16 weeks? Or are you taking is because of skin reactions from AAS?

LR[/quote]

Damn LR, do you pay for the isotret or does that come free on the NHS?

I bought some generic stuff a while back when I had a problem with acne, and self administered 10mg initially (2 months I believe), and then moved onto 20mg a day for a further 2 months.

That stuff works incredibly well, and side effects were minimal. I wish more doctors would consider the low-dose approach, it’s overkill unless people aren’t responding.