[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
I think it is even cuter to watch supposed weight lifters avoid ever actually posting about weight lifting, or only do so on rare occasions. Meanwhile, they fill up an entire forum on off topic issues about politics on a BODYBUILDING WEBSITE…and that doesn’t sound odd? Talk about calling the kettle black.
Where to begion with all this prattle?
You are about as subtle as you are bright, but still find the necessity to always refer to “some people” or “many people” - grow a sack and just say who and what you mean.
To your point, since it was essentially directed at me - you don’t need to worry your pretty head as to my weightlifting protocol just because I spend what limited time I have in the Political Forum. I began to gravitate toward this forum precisely because interesting, smart people had interesting, smart things to say - and there is only so much I can take of constantly trying to convince 15 year olds how big my arms are. Know what I mean? Wait - you actually don’t.
As such, since T-Nation advertises itself as more than just weightlifting and rather a culture, an attitude, and a way of life, having educated conversations on current affairs ain’t exactly straying from the T-Nation religion.
That said, I post in the training sections when I see topics that interest me, particular giving advice to young athletes looking for training guidance. Perhaps you are no athlete and never have been one and rarely visit those threads - I have no idea and couldn’t care less, but in terms of lifting weights and talking about it, my focus is on strength sports commentary and sports training more than bodybuilding.
As for the rest, and I am referencing other foolish posts of yours in this thread - not one person has offered up an argument against the T-Cell “Tribunal” process generally, despite your fantasies to the contrary. Even though you, naturally, created a false position - that those sympathetic to HH’s claim somehow aren’t interested in keeping a high quality of bodybuilding discussion going, a borderline retarded straw man- it has nothing to do with that, even though such a manufactured position makes you feel better, and God knows Professor X is interested in doing nothing but validating feeling right.
Here is why your claim is beyond stupid - I actually like the idea of the T-Cell Tribunal in order to police trolling. Hell, I would support it for every forum if I didn’t have reservations about its abuse.
And that is my point - and Orion’s and Makkun’s - here we have HH with every right to be there and he has done nothing to warrant his removal. If the Tribunal is good for anything, it is to police trolling. No problem, but once rules are laid down - you post stupid crap, you can get booted out - then trollish-types are on notice. Maybe they go straight and stop pissing around, maybe they don’t. Either way, I think it is better to put people on notice about the rules, give them a chance to comply, and vote them out when they act like idiots.
Instead, the Tribunal is, in this instance, being used to create a “country club” - and my plaint is that such use of the process will be bad for the forums generally.
You don’t have to agree with me, but at least recognize the argument we are making rather than the therapeutic one you made up. Instead of doing that, you go off bellyaching and whining about an argument no one here is making regarding your precious form of validation - “I am in the country club!!!”.
I think it takes a cowardly set to try and bump someone out before they do anything, all while under cover of anonymity. Thus my initial statement - it kind of undermines the whole claim of “tough-talking, big-walking bodybuilders” when the “country club” member(s) don’t have the spine to fess up to the Tribunal or give HH a chance to contribute.
That’s my view, and to another point you made: here is the good word, chuckles - I’ll degrade anything I damn well please, and if I think something is a bad idea for T-Nation, which I use and enjoy, I’ll speak up. If that bothers you - if you get all red-faced because people won’t go your way or agree with how you want things or dissent from a prevailing view - then too bad. You’ve been advised more times than you can stare in a mirror and kiss your bicep that you should get thicker skin. Not my problem to fix.
In sum, I think blackballing HH from the T-Cell Alpha before he has even posted anything offensive or trolling is a bad precedent and misuse of what could be a very good troll-policing measure, and done anonymously is a coward’s way out.[/quote]
Holy crap, what a long post!!
I sure hope there is something worth reading in all of this. Let’s see…
I was born with “big sacks” and have no problem mentioning who I mean. I have personally seen you post in the lifting forums so I don’t hold you so much in the regard of avoiding lifting as some others like JeffR and the like who seem to ONLY post here.
Calling each and every one of them out would take some time. Maybe I will do that in a follow up post.
[quote]I began to gravitate toward this forum precisely because interesting, smart people had interesting, smart things to say - and there is only so much I can take of constantly trying to convince 15 year olds how big my arms are. Know what I mean? Wait - you actually don’t.
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Wow, talk about ridiculous. The reason the T-Cell forum now exists is because many of us were tired of 15 year olds jumping into every post. Considering the high number of hits most of those threads are now getting in T-Cell…and considering most members are over the age of 20 now…you don’t have much of a point at all…do you?
[quote]As for the rest, and I am referencing other foolish posts of yours in this thread - not one person has offered up an argument against the T-Cell “Tribunal” process generally, despite your fantasies to the contrary. Even though you, naturally, created a false position - that those sympathetic to HH’s claim somehow aren’t interested in keeping a high quality of bodybuilding discussion going, a borderline retarded straw man- it has nothing to do with that, even though such a manufactured position makes you feel better, and God knows Professor X is interested in doing nothing but validating feeling right.
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I’m sorry, but what the fuck are you talking about? There is a rather large discussion going on right now about the FAULTS in the “tribunal” system. How is it you are unaware of this? Not one person has offered an argument against it? What utter bullshit and a straight up lie.
[quote]I think it takes a cowardly set to try and bump someone out before they do anything, all while under cover of anonymity. Thus my initial statement - it kind of undermines the whole claim of “tough-talking, big-walking bodybuilders” when the “country club” member(s) don’t have the spine to fess up to the Tribunal or give HH a chance to contribute.
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Gee, dear superior one, how is it you have missed that I AGREE that the anonymous nature of tht tribunal should be done away with?
I have made about 10-15 posts just about that…and somehow you missed all of them…including the ones in THIS THREAD and have now accused me falsely.
As if that surprises me.