[quote]polo77j wrote:
that’s exactly what a beta would say … how much you pay for sex, bro?[/quote]
Nah bro, I use the DENNIS system.
[quote]smh_23 wrote:
[quote]polo77j wrote:
that’s exactly what a beta would say … how much you pay for sex, bro?[/quote]
Nah bro, I use the DENNIS system.[/quote]
…you’re operating on a different level than us mere alpha/betas than, homie. Keep up the good work
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
Learn to fly fish. I still cant go fishing anywhere near a populated area and not have women go out of their way to talk, show titties, etc. [/quote]
Hahaha of course.
[quote]jasmincar wrote:
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
Learn to fly fish. I still cant go fishing anywhere near a populated area and not have women go out of their way to talk, show titties, etc. [/quote]
Hahaha of course.[/quote]
Shush Nancy. Not another word unless you’re bringing me a sammich.
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
[quote]jasmincar wrote:
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
Learn to fly fish. I still cant go fishing anywhere near a populated area and not have women go out of their way to talk, show titties, etc. [/quote]
Hahaha of course.[/quote]
Shush Nancy. Not another word unless you’re bringing me a sammich.[/quote]
So you are serious…
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
True alpha males exist in very small numbers, probably one in thousands. [/quote]
What are you smoking? I’m pretty sure that multitudes exist on every internet forum known to man talking about how alpha they are and how beta anyone who disagrees with them is, all the while claiming that they’re too cool to care about the alpha/beta dichotomy.
[quote]Apoklyps wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
True alpha males exist in very small numbers, probably one in thousands. [/quote]
What are you smoking? I’m pretty sure that multitudes exist on every internet forum known to man talking about how alpha they are and how beta anyone who disagrees with them is, all the while claiming that they’re too cool to care about the alpha/beta dichotomy.[/quote]
Of course multitudes exist. And we can all be one too. We just have to curse a lot, lower our inhibitions and be ill-mannered, “game” and mistreat women, put up a high “lay count”, be obsessed with our looks and fashion, and if possible, get a job in which we are paid large sums of money for pushing papers and money to and fro a few hours a day with a hot secretary that makes nightly reservations for the hottest spots in town (think Mr. Big or Gordon Gecko).
To me, a real Alpha Male is very rare and is characterized by all or most of the following:
high IQ
wisdom
natural physical or intellectual gifts (eg, physical strength or athleticism, or artistic talent)
unbreakable ideology
pragmatism (no PC, non-sensensical way of looking at this world)
the ability to sway or lead many people
resourcefulness or already having enormous resources
in extremely rare cases, someone who benefited his society
People like Huey Long, Charles Lindbergh, and George Patton fit the bill.
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]LiftHeavy360 wrote:
Her: I work on Friday too!! lol i’m working 9-2 Friday and 5-10 Saturday.
Me: What about sunday?
[/quote]
I just wanted to add, that I would have asked if she wanted to grab that coffee at 3 on Saturday. It’s before her shift, she probably wants some caffeine before heading in, and she has an established out (no pressure). Mid afternoon. I don’t understand why you didn’t ask her to meet up for coffee before her shift[/quote]
This confused me, too, though I’d have gone for Friday afternoon/evening. From my perspective, giving a schedule when things are very busy doesn’t shoot down as much as it offers all the times I’m available. It strikes me as a very big “yes.”
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]Aero51 wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]Aero51 wrote:
Isnt that alpha/beta shit teenagers say on Bodybuilding.com - Huge Online Supplement Store & Fitness Community!
Lol, you must be new around here…[/quote]
Not new, just too alpha for this place anyway 
God even typing that makes me cringe. [/quote]
Ya, lol, I hate the whole alpha/beta thing. It’s fucking non-sense. [/quote]
It is shorthand.
[/quote]
For, “I haven’t completely left adolescence yet, and still think simplisticly.”[/quote]
I lol’d at this.
[quote]LiftHeavy360 wrote:
[quote]Apoklyps wrote:
[quote]LiftHeavy360 wrote:
Look I agree with everything you’re saying. I feel embarrassed that I even wrote that. I’m not normally like that, you can call it sour grapes. As far as her working two jobs to support her family, I never bashed her for it. I said I felt bad for (assuming it’s even true) that I wanted to help her. Either way it doesn’t matter. I too worked two job in high school to help support my family. I worked my way up to the point I didn’t have to work two jobs anymore. I get where you’re coming from because I did sound like an entitled brat. I do need to mature. This is just a live and you learn interaction. btw wbu? How far have you gotten? Taken the MCAT yet?[/quote]
Hey, thanks. That definitely grew my respect for ya a little bit because it definitely takes a bigger man to be able to admit when he’s being a dummy. Especially over the internet. You’re 20, you still have a couple of years, but I will say one thing: once you get in, you’re expected to behave as a professional. It doesn’t mean you won’t ever screw it up, but it does mean that a lot more eyes will be on you all the time.
I’m in my second year right now. I wrote the MCAT a little over 2 years ago, right after they eliminated the writing portion, but right before they added the new section (lucky!). Still, I set aside a month to study for it. It wasn’t a very fun month.[/quote]
Lucky bastard haha. Congrats on getting into medical school. I hear second year is the toughest so i’m sure you’re probably drained and stressed. Unfortunately for me I have to take the new beast, i’ve heard horror stories already. Btw is it MD or DO? I’m only asking because if it were DO I wanted some insight on it. So how hard is medical school? Is it just the volume that keeps you up every night or difficulty grasping concepts? [/quote]
“Luck?” How is he “lucky?” I suppose he is lucky to be smart, but 95% of getting into med school and being successful there is just hard work.
Your posts read like a typical self-centered guy with delusions of how grand he is, coupled with anger at the world for not seeing you as a special snow flake.
In fact, I am reminded of that loser in LA (?) that went on a shooting/knife/car killing spree because he couldn’t get laid and the manifesto of black guy in Oregon who just went on a shooting spree, apparently because he was super cool, but no one recognized his greatness.
Work hard, disregard females and status, and females and status (and real self worth) will come.
[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
[quote]LiftHeavy360 wrote:
[quote]Apoklyps wrote:
[quote]LiftHeavy360 wrote:
Look I agree with everything you’re saying. I feel embarrassed that I even wrote that. I’m not normally like that, you can call it sour grapes. As far as her working two jobs to support her family, I never bashed her for it. I said I felt bad for (assuming it’s even true) that I wanted to help her. Either way it doesn’t matter. I too worked two job in high school to help support my family. I worked my way up to the point I didn’t have to work two jobs anymore. I get where you’re coming from because I did sound like an entitled brat. I do need to mature. This is just a live and you learn interaction. btw wbu? How far have you gotten? Taken the MCAT yet?[/quote]
Hey, thanks. That definitely grew my respect for ya a little bit because it definitely takes a bigger man to be able to admit when he’s being a dummy. Especially over the internet. You’re 20, you still have a couple of years, but I will say one thing: once you get in, you’re expected to behave as a professional. It doesn’t mean you won’t ever screw it up, but it does mean that a lot more eyes will be on you all the time.
I’m in my second year right now. I wrote the MCAT a little over 2 years ago, right after they eliminated the writing portion, but right before they added the new section (lucky!). Still, I set aside a month to study for it. It wasn’t a very fun month.[/quote]
Lucky bastard haha. Congrats on getting into medical school. I hear second year is the toughest so i’m sure you’re probably drained and stressed. Unfortunately for me I have to take the new beast, i’ve heard horror stories already. Btw is it MD or DO? I’m only asking because if it were DO I wanted some insight on it. So how hard is medical school? Is it just the volume that keeps you up every night or difficulty grasping concepts? [/quote]
“Luck?” How is he “lucky?” I suppose he is lucky to be smart, but 95% of getting into med school and being successful there is just hard work.
Your posts read like a typical self-centered guy with delusions of how grand he is, coupled with anger at the world for not seeing you as a special snow flake.
In fact, I am reminded of that loser in LA (?) that went on a shooting/knife/car killing spree because he couldn’t get laid and the manifesto of black guy in Oregon who just went on a shooting spree, apparently because he was super cool, but no one recognized his greatness.
Work hard, disregard females and status, and females and status (and real self worth) will come.[/quote]
This. Stop putting the cart before the horse
[quote]jasmincar wrote:
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
[quote]jasmincar wrote:
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
Learn to fly fish. I still cant go fishing anywhere near a populated area and not have women go out of their way to talk, show titties, etc. [/quote]
Hahaha of course.[/quote]
Shush Nancy. Not another word unless you’re bringing me a sammich.[/quote]
So you are serious…[/quote]
Fly fishing is where it’s at and don’t you dare saying otherwise.
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
Of course multitudes exist. And we can all be one too. We just have to curse a lot, lower our inhibitions and be ill-mannered, “game” and mistreat women, put up a high “lay count”, be obsessed with our looks and fashion, and if possible, get a job in which we are paid large sums of money for pushing papers and money to and fro a few hours a day with a hot secretary that makes nightly reservations for the hottest spots in town (think Mr. Big or Gordon Gecko).
To me, a real Alpha Male is very rare and is characterized by all or most of the following:
high IQ
wisdom
natural physical or intellectual gifts (eg, physical strength or athleticism, or artistic talent)
unbreakable ideology
pragmatism (no PC, non-sensensical way of looking at this world)
the ability to sway or lead many people
resourcefulness or already having enormous resources
in extremely rare cases, someone who benefited his society
People like Huey Long, Charles Lindbergh, and George Patton fit the bill. [/quote]
I don’t disagree! I just see that as having achieved a high degree of personal growth. That idea seems to be a common theme in humanity’s history, whether you hear it from Nietsche, Maslow, or Elliot Hulse. To me, though, where you end up doesn’t matter as much as how far you’ve come in your journey.
I was actually trying to make a tongue-in-cheek commentary about all the chest-beating that happens when you get lots of mostly younger guys together on a forum talking about a subject that a lot of guys are sensitive about.
[quote]jasmincar wrote:
[quote]jasmincar wrote:
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
[quote]jasmincar wrote:
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
Learn to fly fish. I still cant go fishing anywhere near a populated area and not have women go out of their way to talk, show titties, etc. [/quote]
Hahaha of course.[/quote]
Shush Nancy. Not another word unless you’re bringing me a sammich.[/quote]
So you are serious…[/quote]
Fly fishing is where it’s at and don’t you dare saying otherwise.[/quote]
Yes and no. The point of my statement is that a person should be in their element and having fun rather than getting 3 no’s to the face until the girl gives her number so that she can blow him off at a distance.
[quote]LiftHeavy360 wrote:
This would be the last time I cold approach a girl. My friend told me to never ask out a library girl because they’re all batchit crazy, I guess he was right haha.[/quote]
Your friend isn’t helping and if you never again approach a girl to whom you’re attracted, you can potentially miss out on a WHOLE LOT in life.
And don’t focus on the outcome too much (and, in turn, blame her when it doesn’t go your way) here either, being that proper self-esteem is based on a bit more than the validation/approval/lust of assorted random others.
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
I believe the terms beta male and Alpha Male are often used by womanless men as a form of coping and a way, from frustration and vindication, to criticize regular men with robust social lives, women, a job, a family, etc. in order to make themselves feel on a level playing. Kind of like bringing others down to make themselves feel better. (Personal opinion). [/quote]
No Brick, the proper usage isn’t some coping mechanism at all but rather a simple set of observations re: what females and males typically find attractive (and especially amongst these past few generations within open, permissive societies)
[quote]smh_23 wrote:
Some people have more success with the opposite sex than others?
Next you’ll be telling me that some kids are better at sports than their peers.
The point being that an obvious fact of life can be twisted to nonsense with enough obsession and ludicrous pseudo-intellectual babble attached.[/quote]
So yeah, basically this.
Hardly any form of gospel, but certainly a handy lens to view the broad strokes thru.
(and I’d venture that the babble has an ‘evolutionary psychology’ bent to it, more than anything)
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
[quote]jasmincar wrote:
[quote]jasmincar wrote:
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
[quote]jasmincar wrote:
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
Learn to fly fish. I still cant go fishing anywhere near a populated area and not have women go out of their way to talk, show titties, etc. [/quote]
Hahaha of course.[/quote]
Shush Nancy. Not another word unless you’re bringing me a sammich.[/quote]
So you are serious…[/quote]
Fly fishing is where it’s at and don’t you dare saying otherwise.[/quote]
Yes and no. The point of my statement is that a person should be in their element and having fun rather than getting 3 no’s to the face until the girl gives her number so that she can blow him off at a distance.[/quote]
Dude.
Hope you’re back to stay.
[/quote]
I think I will be. Things have become much more managable in the past year or so.
[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
[quote]LiftHeavy360 wrote:
[quote]Apoklyps wrote:
[quote]LiftHeavy360 wrote:
Look I agree with everything you’re saying. I feel embarrassed that I even wrote that. I’m not normally like that, you can call it sour grapes. As far as her working two jobs to support her family, I never bashed her for it. I said I felt bad for (assuming it’s even true) that I wanted to help her. Either way it doesn’t matter. I too worked two job in high school to help support my family. I worked my way up to the point I didn’t have to work two jobs anymore. I get where you’re coming from because I did sound like an entitled brat. I do need to mature. This is just a live and you learn interaction. btw wbu? How far have you gotten? Taken the MCAT yet?[/quote]
Hey, thanks. That definitely grew my respect for ya a little bit because it definitely takes a bigger man to be able to admit when he’s being a dummy. Especially over the internet. You’re 20, you still have a couple of years, but I will say one thing: once you get in, you’re expected to behave as a professional. It doesn’t mean you won’t ever screw it up, but it does mean that a lot more eyes will be on you all the time.
I’m in my second year right now. I wrote the MCAT a little over 2 years ago, right after they eliminated the writing portion, but right before they added the new section (lucky!). Still, I set aside a month to study for it. It wasn’t a very fun month.[/quote]
Lucky bastard haha. Congrats on getting into medical school. I hear second year is the toughest so i’m sure you’re probably drained and stressed. Unfortunately for me I have to take the new beast, i’ve heard horror stories already. Btw is it MD or DO? I’m only asking because if it were DO I wanted some insight on it. So how hard is medical school? Is it just the volume that keeps you up every night or difficulty grasping concepts? [/quote]
“Luck?” How is he “lucky?” I suppose he is lucky to be smart, but 95% of getting into med school and being successful there is just hard work.
Your posts read like a typical self-centered guy with delusions of how grand he is, coupled with anger at the world for not seeing you as a special snow flake.
In fact, I am reminded of that loser in LA (?) that went on a shooting/knife/car killing spree because he couldn’t get laid and the manifesto of black guy in Oregon who just went on a shooting spree, apparently because he was super cool, but no one recognized his greatness.
Work hard, disregard females and status, and females and status (and real self worth) will come.[/quote]
I didn’t say he was lucky because he got into medical school. I called him lucky because he ‘luckily’ dodged the new MCAT. The new MCAT is longer and requires a lot more memorization. Of course he didn’t get into medical school by simple luck. As far as me coming off as self centered, I already mentioned that it’s just sour grapes.
I find it odd that you’re comparing me to a mass murderer simply because of the way I responded to a girl rejecting me. Isn’t it obvious that was just simply a coping mechanism? Read the title of the thread. My self esteem was very low so what else did you expect from an immature twenty year old? I even apologized and admitted that I needed to mature and I was embarrassed that I even made that post.
I’m not a entitled, self centered egomaniac. There’s a reason why I came on this site because I have an open mind, I just wanted to know why things happened the way they did and how I can avoid it happening again. I also mentioned before I was in a long term relationship with my ‘high school sweet heart’ that ended not too long ago. So I’ve got the same experience as a 16 year old boy when it comes to approaching women.