My Self Esteem Has Never Been Lower

[quote]LiftHeavy360 wrote:

[quote]Apoklyps wrote:

[quote]LiftHeavy360 wrote:
Look I agree with everything you’re saying. I feel embarrassed that I even wrote that. I’m not normally like that, you can call it sour grapes. As far as her working two jobs to support her family, I never bashed her for it. I said I felt bad for (assuming it’s even true) that I wanted to help her. Either way it doesn’t matter. I too worked two job in high school to help support my family. I worked my way up to the point I didn’t have to work two jobs anymore. I get where you’re coming from because I did sound like an entitled brat. I do need to mature. This is just a live and you learn interaction. btw wbu? How far have you gotten? Taken the MCAT yet?[/quote]

Hey, thanks. That definitely grew my respect for ya a little bit because it definitely takes a bigger man to be able to admit when he’s being a dummy. Especially over the internet. You’re 20, you still have a couple of years, but I will say one thing: once you get in, you’re expected to behave as a professional. It doesn’t mean you won’t ever screw it up, but it does mean that a lot more eyes will be on you all the time.

I’m in my second year right now. I wrote the MCAT a little over 2 years ago, right after they eliminated the writing portion, but right before they added the new section (lucky!). Still, I set aside a month to study for it. It wasn’t a very fun month.[/quote]

Lucky bastard haha. Congrats on getting into medical school. I hear second year is the toughest so i’m sure you’re probably drained and stressed. Unfortunately for me I have to take the new beast, i’ve heard horror stories already. Btw is it MD or DO? I’m only asking because if it were DO I wanted some insight on it. So how hard is medical school? Is it just the volume that keeps you up every night or difficulty grasping concepts? [/quote]

I’m a Canadian so we don’t have DO.

Well what it is is that every year gets busier. From what I hear, residency (especially the first 2 years) are the roughest. It’s not killer right now. I’m able to balance it with working 2 nights a week, gymming 3 days a week, spending time with my son when I can, and whatever precious little free time is left I spend maintaining the few close friendships I care enough about to maintain and going on dates. Yeah, it means I half-ass a lot of things (especially the gym and sometimes my love life lol) and don’t get as much sleep as I probably should, but it’s a reasonable balance and you do what you have to do to get the job done.

Concepts aren’t hard. It’s a lot easier if you’re a logical thinker and have a good memory. There is a lot of material though. I spend twice as much time studying for a unit exam than I ever did studying for a course final in undergrad.

I wouldn’t worry so much about the workload. If you want to do it enough to jump through all the hoops to get in, you’ll want it enough to jump through any more they throw your way once you’re in.

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[quote]Aero51 wrote:

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[quote]Aero51 wrote:
Isnt that alpha/beta shit teenagers say on Bodybuilding.com - Huge Online Supplement Store & Fitness Community!

Lol, you must be new around here…[/quote]

Not new, just too alpha for this place anyway :wink:

God even typing that makes me cringe. [/quote]

Ya, lol, I hate the whole alpha/beta thing. It’s fucking non-sense. [/quote]

It is shorthand.

[quote]mbdix wrote:

[quote]LiftHeavy360 wrote:

Her: I work on Friday too!! lol i’m working 9-2 Friday and 5-10 Saturday.

Me: What about sunday?

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I just wanted to add, that I would have asked if she wanted to grab that coffee at 3 on Saturday. It’s before her shift, she probably wants some caffeine before heading in, and she has an established out (no pressure). Mid afternoon. I don’t understand why you didn’t ask her to meet up for coffee before her shift[/quote]

Trust me I would have but I work a job too lol.

[quote]Aero51 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Aero51 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Aero51 wrote:
Isnt that alpha/beta shit teenagers say on Bodybuilding.com - Huge Online Supplement Store & Fitness Community!

Lol, you must be new around here…[/quote]

Not new, just too alpha for this place anyway :wink:

God even typing that makes me cringe. [/quote]

Ya, lol, I hate the whole alpha/beta thing. It’s fucking non-sense. [/quote]

I feel like saying things like “Im alpha” makes you…not an Alpha Male anyway. Because isn’t an alpha-human defined by their leadership roll…which requires doing something other than self promotion. [/quote]
Oh I agree. I just felt like poking you because you’re so fun to read when you start ranting.

But now I wonder if you see the irony.

[quote]Aero51 wrote:

And then there is the other side of the issue, men becoming more passive and not standing for anything. It drives me nuts that it is a liability to be a man today. I think porn and sexual addiction is a big contributor to this, but also the amount of testosterone inhibiting chemicals that are in the environment in the western world (plastics, birth control, etc). My parents were born in the early 1950’s so I was raised with a more traditional outlook on what it means to be a man: strength, independence, the provider, the protector, and that is how I see myself.

I feel like [young] men today are more “goofy”, in the sense that they are not to be taken seriously - to use an analogy they are like leaves wondering in the wind through life. Where are the men that stand for something, that act with a purpose, that have a drive to do more than drink esoteric hipster beer and discuss micro aggressions or take selfies?
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[quote]Aero51 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Aero51 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Aero51 wrote:
Isnt that alpha/beta shit teenagers say on Bodybuilding.com - Huge Online Supplement Store & Fitness Community!

Lol, you must be new around here…[/quote]

Not new, just too alpha for this place anyway :wink:

God even typing that makes me cringe. [/quote]

Ya, lol, I hate the whole alpha/beta thing. It’s fucking non-sense. [/quote]

I feel like saying things like “Im alpha” makes you…not an Alpha Male anyway. Because isn’t an alpha-human defined by their leadership roll…which requires doing something other than self promotion. [/quote]

True alpha males exist in very small numbers, probably one in thousands.

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Aero51 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Aero51 wrote:
Isnt that alpha/beta shit teenagers say on Bodybuilding.com - Huge Online Supplement Store & Fitness Community!

Lol, you must be new around here…[/quote]

Not new, just too alpha for this place anyway :wink:

God even typing that makes me cringe. [/quote]

Ya, lol, I hate the whole alpha/beta thing. It’s fucking non-sense. [/quote]

Underlined, laminated, and framed.

alpha schmalpha, I’m the god damn Omega Man!

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Aero51 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Aero51 wrote:
Isnt that alpha/beta shit teenagers say on Bodybuilding.com - Huge Online Supplement Store & Fitness Community!

Lol, you must be new around here…[/quote]

Not new, just too alpha for this place anyway :wink:

God even typing that makes me cringe. [/quote]

Ya, lol, I hate the whole alpha/beta thing. It’s fucking non-sense. [/quote]

Well, given that the guy who first coined the phrase as it relates to wolves has since determined that it is an outmoded concept that doesn’t even accurately apply to wolves, I’d say say it’s highly unlikely that it applies to humans.

http://www.davemech.org/news.html

Basically alpha wolves are only “alpha” because they breed and the offspring they produce become their pack. So if you wanna be alpha, have lots of kids and make sure they know who’s boss.

[quote]Yogi wrote:
alpha schmalpha, I’m the god damn Omega Man![/quote]

I’ll see your Omega Man and raise you this…

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Aero51 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Aero51 wrote:
Isnt that alpha/beta shit teenagers say on Bodybuilding.com - Huge Online Supplement Store & Fitness Community!

Lol, you must be new around here…[/quote]

Not new, just too alpha for this place anyway :wink:

God even typing that makes me cringe. [/quote]

Ya, lol, I hate the whole alpha/beta thing. It’s fucking non-sense. [/quote]

It is shorthand.
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For, “I haven’t completely left adolescence yet, and still think simplisticly.”[/quote]

Not really, this is more projection than anything else.

Originally, alpha fucks, beta bucks was all that mattered, some guys get laid for free, others pay a high price for it, which is a simple observation…

Now, what have these alpha fucks guys have in common?

To automatically attach ideas about wolf packs or something similar to that idea and then dismiss it is strawmanning.

Learn to fly fish. I still cant go fishing anywhere near a populated area and not have women go out of their way to talk, show titties, etc.

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]Powerpuff wrote:

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
I hate to admit it, but I did this quite a bit, mostly because I didn’t know how to honestly communicate in a nice way. [/quote]

I don’t doubt you left a trail of broken Mormon boys hearts from one end of the BYU campus to the other.[/quote]

Wel… Not so much. There was an awkward year where I cut my hair off so I looked like Alice from Dilbert, then there was some trouble with my contacts so I had to wear some really thick glasses, then there was the unfortunate spiral perm… :slight_smile:

It’s pretty hard to be a big fish in that pond. It’s a huge school with a lot of really beautiful women. One of the girls I was close friends with had been a runner up in the Miss California pageant. Pic of me from back then with my BIG late 1980’s hair and boxy sweater. At least I never went through a Flock of Seagulls phase.
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Ha. I was right. You were a babe in the tight sweaters and knit Bible-cover sort of way.

Poor boys.[/quote]

I’m late to this party, but just needed to perhaps needlessly add.

Yes. Poor, poor boys.

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Aero51 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Aero51 wrote:
Isnt that alpha/beta shit teenagers say on Bodybuilding.com - Huge Online Supplement Store & Fitness Community!

Lol, you must be new around here…[/quote]

Not new, just too alpha for this place anyway :wink:

God even typing that makes me cringe. [/quote]

Ya, lol, I hate the whole alpha/beta thing. It’s fucking non-sense. [/quote]

It is shorthand.
[/quote]

For, “I haven’t completely left adolescence yet, and still think simplisticly.”[/quote]

Not really, this is more projection than anything else.

Originally, alpha fucks, beta bucks was all that mattered, some guys get laid for free, others pay a high price for it, which is a simple observation…

Now, what have these alpha fucks guys have in common?

To automatically attach ideas about wolf packs or something similar to that idea and then dismiss it is strawmanning.[/quote]

Some people have more success with the opposite sex than others?

Next you’ll be telling me that some kids are better at sports than their peers.

The point being that an obvious fact of life can be twisted to nonsense with enough obsession and ludicrous pseudo-intellectual babble attached.

[quote]smh_23 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Aero51 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Aero51 wrote:
Isnt that alpha/beta shit teenagers say on Bodybuilding.com - Huge Online Supplement Store & Fitness Community!

Lol, you must be new around here…[/quote]

Not new, just too alpha for this place anyway :wink:

God even typing that makes me cringe. [/quote]

Ya, lol, I hate the whole alpha/beta thing. It’s fucking non-sense. [/quote]

It is shorthand.
[/quote]

For, “I haven’t completely left adolescence yet, and still think simplisticly.”[/quote]

Not really, this is more projection than anything else.

Originally, alpha fucks, beta bucks was all that mattered, some guys get laid for free, others pay a high price for it, which is a simple observation…

Now, what have these alpha fucks guys have in common?

To automatically attach ideas about wolf packs or something similar to that idea and then dismiss it is strawmanning.[/quote]

Some people have more success with the opposite sex than others?

Next you’ll be telling me that some kids are better at sports than their peers.

The point being that an obvious fact of life can be twisted to nonsense with enough obsession and ludicrous pseudo-intellectual babble attached.[/quote]

that’s exactly what a beta would say … how much you pay for sex, bro?

I believe the terms beta male and Alpha Male are often used by womanless men as a form of coping and a way, from frustration and vindication, to criticize regular men with robust social lives, women, a job, a family, etc. in order to make themselves feel on a level playing. Kind of like bringing others down to make themselves feel better. (Personal opinion).

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
Learn to fly fish. I still cant go fishing anywhere near a populated area and not have women go out of their way to talk, show titties, etc. [/quote]

POIDNH[/quote]
You’re only skeptical cause I’m not very alpha, huh?
Good to see you Push!(and many others) It’s been a while since I’ve been on the interwebs.

[quote]LiftHeavy360 wrote:
I cold approached this girl at the uni library. I got her number and texted her later that day. The entire Conversation went like this

Me: This is a VIP# store with care
-Jack
Her: LOL! Hey I’m sorry for being so rude when giving you my number my manager isn’t the nicest person on earth so I didn’t know how she would feel about it.

Me:No worries I understand she seems to be in a bad mood most of the time from what I noticed

Her: yeah idk what her deal is! I was like oh no :frowning: i’m usually not that mean.

Me: Do you drink coffee?

Her: haha yeah I do! why?

Me: Rumor has it this place called starbucks serves coffee, we should go verify this rumor.

Her: Yeah why no! when do you want to go

Me: What about saturday at 6?

Her: I have work! 2 jobs so i’m always busy.

Me: Wow hard worker! what about friday at 11am?

Her: I work on Friday too!! lol i’m working 9-2 Friday and 5-10 Saturday.

Me: What about sunday?

Her: Nope that’s family day LOL, You shuld know that

Me: Oh! well now I know

Her: I mean don’t you have family day on sunday’s hahaha

Me. I guess? I always assumed family day was every day?

Her: aww that’s swwet! do you have a big family?

Me: Hmm not rly! we’re a family of 6 wbu?

Her: I see :slight_smile: just 4 my parents my brother and I :slight_smile:

Me: It was nice chatting lmk when you’re so we can get some coffee!

Her: Thanks you too.

So now i’m a bit skeptical because she’s giving me sign that’s she’s interested but I just have a weird feeling about things So I text her 4 days later on sunday.

me: Hey! so how was family day?

For 12 hours I get no response. There’s a read receipt so I know she read it. I them begin getting paranoid until I give in and send a another text

me: is everything ok?

she texts back in two mins

Her: Yeah i’m good! I was with my bf all and didn’t have a chance to reply. I’m sorry :frowning:

That’s just sucked the air right out of me. I’d rather she denied me in the beginning but leading me on like that? really?

I send a message back

me: No worries

Her: :slight_smile:

and that’s the end of it. What would you guys do in this situation?

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She has a bf, she won’t hit you back. You’really done here. I know chick’s like this. They want lot’s of admirers but won’t reciprocate feelings. She wants you to chase, but you will be doing all the work and she will give you little if anything but the slightest bit of hope.
Don’t let this fuck with your self esteem. There are 3.5 billion women in the world. Figure about 80% are fucked in the head and your odds are still pretty good. Don’t let your heart or your dick run your life.