[quote]Apoklyps wrote:
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
And this explains why most of the other doctors my wife works with are insecure douches.
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Awwwww man… Really?
Your wife’s a psychiatrist, right? [/quote]
Very, very, very close: OB/GYN/surgeon.
[quote]Apoklyps wrote:
[quote]LiftHeavy360 wrote:
Also i’ll be going to a Caribbean medical school in about two years because I won’t be able to get into any here and will eventually become a doctor despite failing my equivalency exam 3 times.
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Fixed.[/quote]
awww why do you have to be so mean? Yes majority of ‘pre meds’ will never see a medical school classroom, I get that. However I’m about 90% percent of the way done with my pre reqs and I’ve done really well in them. I’m pretty confident i’ll get in somewhere in the United States, whether that be a ‘DO’ or ‘MD’ school. Of course the odds are against every aspiring doctor so you always need a plan B. Which is why I’ve majored in chemistry so if I don’t get in I can get a specialization. Then I can work at some corporation testings products, which would be an 80k minimum salary.
[quote]Silyak wrote:
[quote]LiftHeavy360 wrote:
[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
[quote]LiftHeavy360 wrote:
[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
That girl just lacks the social skills to politely but frankly decline. This happens a lot. She doesn’t want to be rude, so she’ll make up excuses, invent a boyfriend, or friend-zone you. I hate to admit it, but I did this quite a bit, mostly because I didn’t know how to honestly communicate in a nice way. Don’t take it personally. You gave a perfectly nice offer, and the little joke about Starbucks was funny. She’s just not interested for whatever reason. She might have a crush on somebody else right now. It can be that simple.
If she were really interested when you suggested coffee, she would have said she was working, but was free on Thursday or whenever. And if she really has a boyfriend, she should have brought that up right out of the box when you asked for her number. She could have easily said, “Thanks, and I would but I’m dating someone right now.” [/quote]
I don’t get it then. Why do that? All she had to do was say she had a bf. When she agreed to get coffee with me she said, “yeah sure why not”. Hmmm why not? She already knew the answer to that question. Do some women live such boring lives that they have to take advantage of any form of drama they can to help spice things up? I mean it’s one thing to cheat on your bf, it’s another to toy with the emotions of a complete stranger. Women can be so cruel holy phuck. [/quote]
I don’t know why she said “Yeah sure why not.” You’ll never know. You’d think it would have been easier for her to quickly sidestep you by text when she can think through her responses without the face-to-face pressure. Just a guess here, but she gave you her number - Maybe because she didn’t know how to gracefully say no to your face. The unexpected face to face thing can catch a girl like a deer in the headlights. She was thinking all along that she was going to answer a text or two from you if you contacted her, and then make an excuse if you asked her out. There is no boyfriend. That’s my guess.
What Apoklyps said about not continuing to suggest times to meet up is spot on. If she says “Sorry, I have to work,” and you say “What’s your schedule like next week?”, and she comes back with something about how she’s slammed with work, and needs to write a big paper, and already has plans with her roommates - Then she’s trying to politely blow you off. So, you politely say, “Well, I’m on my way out but it was nice to meet you. TTYL” Forget about trying to make her “regret you.” That’s just silly.
If you were some total stranger who hit on me at the 7-11, no way I’d have given you my number, but it’s always easier to say, “Sorry, I have a boyfriend”, than to say “No, you’re a total stranger and you seem creepy.” 
If the guy seemed normal, was friendly and was about my age, and from my school, I might have given him my number thinking I’d either find a nice way to brush him off later, or MAYBE that it would turn into some kind of friendship.
Lots of women will sometimes hang out with guys, or even accept dates when they are pretty sure there’s no romantic interest on their part at all. It generally not premeditated or mean-spiritied. They are unlikely to be thinking “Score! I’ve turned him into my beta-orbiter, stand-in for if I have no better plans! I’ll use him!” We may sometimes be in denial about accepting that the young man wouldn’t hang around just to be a friend, but we’re not usually doing it on purpose to be cruel.
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I agree with most of what you said and thank you for your response. I don’t think she has a bf either, I’ve stated that from the beginning. However if you read our conversation, her telling me it’s family day and that she’s sorry she’s usually not that mean and yadda yadda.
It just seems like she’s looking for some type of validation or attention. It’s one thing if you don’t have enough courage to reject someone when they’re right in front of you. It’s a whole different ball game whhil texting, she had more than enough opportunities to be straight up with me. She was under no pressure and it was weird because she would respond like 30 seconds after I texted her. So this made me think she was interested.
Me on the other had, I would average almost 15 mins per text (this was not on purpose) Beside the coffee offer, I was actually the passive one in the covno. I even ended the convo first before it became a texting marathon. She ‘allegedly’ works two minimum wage jobs to help support her family. I felt bad for her, if things went further I could have helped her get a job with my current employer (the starting pay is $20hr).
Also i’ll be going to medical school in about two years and will eventually become a doctor. I never mentioned where I worked or what i’m going to school for. She probably sees me as some low class loser but little does she know it’s the opposite. This would be the last time I cold approach a girl. My friend told me to never ask out a library girl because they’re all batchit crazy, I guess he was right haha.
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The Butthurt is so deep in this post. Girls aren’t attracted to guys because they can set them up with $20/hr jobs. Being an undergrad who plans to go to medical school also doesn’t bump you up many notches. You don’t feel bad for her. You wanted her and are frustrated that she didn’t want you and that she’ll never know what a great catch you are.
The reality is there are dozens of explanations as to why she ended up acting the way she did. But thinking about it more won’t let you know which explanation is correct, and knowing which explanation is correct wouldn’t help you. It doesn’t appear you screwed up horribly in the interaction, but there are things you could have done better (there always are).
Move on.
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Well said. I’ve gotta learn to become a little more comfortable in my own skin. I make too many assumptions and end up thinking too much into things I shouldn’t.
Maybe next time before the number exchange ask them if they are involved with someone, get it out of the way?
Now go deadlift, as mentioned before!
[quote]scoots2 wrote:
Maybe next time before the number exchange ask them if they are involved with someone, get it out of the way?
Now go deadlift, as mentioned before![/quote]
Did deadlifts yesterday. They are very fun except when you snap your back.
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
Pic of me from back then with my BIG late 1980’s hair and boxy sweater.
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Wow, you are the epitome of shiksappeal.[/quote]
Just letting you know, I had to look that one up! Thank you, Jewbacca. Now I can feel like Uncle Rico - Back in '92…I had shiksappeal.
[quote]LiftHeavy360 wrote:
[quote]scoots2 wrote:
Maybe next time before the number exchange ask them if they are involved with someone, get it out of the way?
Now go deadlift, as mentioned before![/quote]
Did deadlifts yesterday. They are very fun except when you snap your back.
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Finally, someone following SAMA wisdom.
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
[quote]Apoklyps wrote:
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
And this explains why most of the other doctors my wife works with are insecure douches.
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Awwwww man… Really?
Your wife’s a psychiatrist, right? [/quote]
Very, very, very close: OB/GYN/surgeon.
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LOL… I applaud that response, definitely gave me a chuckle. Not sure why I thought she was under the impression that she’s a psychiatrist. Based on my admittedly rather limited exposure to OB/GYN, it seems to be the sort of specialty that attracts a lot of type A personalities.
[quote]LiftHeavy360 wrote:
[quote]Apoklyps wrote:
[quote]LiftHeavy360 wrote:
Also i’ll be going to a Caribbean medical school in about two years because I won’t be able to get into any here and will eventually become a doctor despite failing my equivalency exam 3 times.
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Fixed.[/quote]
awww why do you have to be so mean? Yes majority of ‘pre meds’ will never see a medical school classroom, I get that. However I’m about 90% percent of the way done with my pre reqs and I’ve done really well in them. I’m pretty confident i’ll get in somewhere in the United States, whether that be a ‘DO’ or ‘MD’ school. Of course the odds are against every aspiring doctor so you always need a plan B. Which is why I’ve majored in chemistry so if I don’t get in I can get a specialization. Then I can work at some corporation testings products, which would be an 80k minimum salary. [/quote]
Because I don’t like your attitude. I have a lot more respect for a girl who works 2 jobs to help her family’s financial situation than a guy who thinks he has the right to an entitled attitude because he might be a doctor someday. Even if you do succeed in becoming a doctor or having some other “prestigious” career, it doesn’t mean that you should act like that.
I seriously doubt you’ve even reached the hardest point of your undergraduate degree. Preparing for your MCAT and interview(s) when you still have to keep up with your grades and all your extracurricular commitments is another beast entirely.
If you choose to continue along this path, I wish you good luck, but I really hope you mature a bit before committing to this path.
[quote]LiftHeavy360 wrote:
texted her to clarify and she was indeed talking about her boyfriend. I’'ll likely see her in the library again. What should I do? Bear in mind i’m not interested in her anymore, the unfaithfulness is a huge turnoff.[/quote]
Say hello. That’s all! You’re still thinking of this? Dude, I don’t mean to come off the wrong way, but your posts can imply to some people, including me, that you need to get around more people generally. Then you likely won’t think of what to do, considering that social smoothness is not premeditated. I’ve gotten into unsavory conversations with people at work, friends, family members, and so on, and then after that apologized if needed, and acted quite naturally, as if nothing ever happened. If you forget it, they likely forget it!
A woman might even have respect for a man who can move on with his life and accept that he’s not a match for every other person. That’s how grown men think and act.
Another thing…
I don’t think those who simply deem womanless, embittered, and frustrated men as pussies quite understand why such men act strange and socially awkward and fret over the minutia of behavior of the females they are interested in or trying to court. I believe this is so because these men either had healthy self esteem and social interaction since day one, and had positive interaction with females ever since they got their first hard-ons.
They can’t quite grasp the strange, obsessive, and sometimes subsequent vindictive nature of such men because they have not experienced the unpleasantness (or misery) of being single or sexless for years or the inability to even initially attract or interact with women. I believe that there are few things that can make a man angrier and stranger than lack of a woman.
[quote]Apoklyps wrote:
[quote]LiftHeavy360 wrote:
[quote]Apoklyps wrote:
[quote]LiftHeavy360 wrote:
Also i’ll be going to a Caribbean medical school in about two years because I won’t be able to get into any here and will eventually become a doctor despite failing my equivalency exam 3 times.
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Fixed.[/quote]
awww why do you have to be so mean? Yes majority of ‘pre meds’ will never see a medical school classroom, I get that. However I’m about 90% percent of the way done with my pre reqs and I’ve done really well in them. I’m pretty confident i’ll get in somewhere in the United States, whether that be a ‘DO’ or ‘MD’ school. Of course the odds are against every aspiring doctor so you always need a plan B. Which is why I’ve majored in chemistry so if I don’t get in I can get a specialization. Then I can work at some corporation testings products, which would be an 80k minimum salary. [/quote]
Because I don’t like your attitude. I have a lot more respect for a girl who works 2 jobs to help her family’s financial situation than a guy who thinks he has the right to an entitled attitude because he might be a doctor someday. Even if you do succeed in becoming a doctor or having some other “prestigious” career, it doesn’t mean that you should act like that.
I seriously doubt you’ve even reached the hardest point of your undergraduate degree. Preparing for your MCAT and interview(s) when you still have to keep up with your grades and all your extracurricular commitments is another beast entirely.
If you choose to continue along this path, I wish you good luck, but I really hope you mature a bit before committing to this path.[/quote]
Look I agree with everything you’re saying. I feel embarrassed that I even wrote that. I’m not normally like that, you can call it sour grapes. As far as her working two jobs to support her family, I never bashed her for it. I said I felt bad for (assuming it’s even true) that I wanted to help her. Either way it doesn’t matter. I too worked two job in high school to help support my family. I worked my way up to the point I didn’t have to work two jobs anymore. I get where you’re coming from because I did sound like an entitled brat. I do need to mature. This is just a live and you learn interaction. btw wbu? How far have you gotten? Taken the MCAT yet?
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]LiftHeavy360 wrote:
texted her to clarify and she was indeed talking about her boyfriend. I’'ll likely see her in the library again. What should I do? Bear in mind i’m not interested in her anymore, the unfaithfulness is a huge turnoff.[/quote]
Say hello. That’s all! You’re still thinking of this? Dude, I don’t mean to come off the wrong way, but your posts can imply to some people, including me, that you need to get around more people generally. Then you likely won’t think of what to do, considering that social smoothness is not premeditated. I’ve gotten into unsavory conversations with people at work, friends, family members, and so on, and then after that apologized if needed, and acted quite naturally, as if nothing ever happened. If you forget it, they likely forget it!
A woman might even have respect for a man who can move on with his life and accept that he’s not a match for every other person. That’s how grown men think and act.
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dude I posted that a couple of days ago. I’ve moved on. I don’t give a shixt anymore. Sure it still stings just a little but with all of the great advice ITT from you and the other users I have a completely different mind set. You guys have been great, I’m lucky to be getting this advice for free. Again thanks.
[quote]LiftHeavy360 wrote:
Look I agree with everything you’re saying. I feel embarrassed that I even wrote that. I’m not normally like that, you can call it sour grapes. As far as her working two jobs to support her family, I never bashed her for it. I said I felt bad for (assuming it’s even true) that I wanted to help her. Either way it doesn’t matter. I too worked two job in high school to help support my family. I worked my way up to the point I didn’t have to work two jobs anymore. I get where you’re coming from because I did sound like an entitled brat. I do need to mature. This is just a live and you learn interaction. btw wbu? How far have you gotten? Taken the MCAT yet?[/quote]
Hey, thanks. That definitely grew my respect for ya a little bit because it definitely takes a bigger man to be able to admit when he’s being a dummy. Especially over the internet. You’re 20, you still have a couple of years, but I will say one thing: once you get in, you’re expected to behave as a professional. It doesn’t mean you won’t ever screw it up, but it does mean that a lot more eyes will be on you all the time.
I’m in my second year right now. I wrote the MCAT a little over 2 years ago, right after they eliminated the writing portion, but right before they added the new section (lucky!). Still, I set aside a month to study for it. It wasn’t a very fun month.
[quote]Apoklyps wrote:
[quote]LiftHeavy360 wrote:
Look I agree with everything you’re saying. I feel embarrassed that I even wrote that. I’m not normally like that, you can call it sour grapes. As far as her working two jobs to support her family, I never bashed her for it. I said I felt bad for (assuming it’s even true) that I wanted to help her. Either way it doesn’t matter. I too worked two job in high school to help support my family. I worked my way up to the point I didn’t have to work two jobs anymore. I get where you’re coming from because I did sound like an entitled brat. I do need to mature. This is just a live and you learn interaction. btw wbu? How far have you gotten? Taken the MCAT yet?[/quote]
Hey, thanks. That definitely grew my respect for ya a little bit because it definitely takes a bigger man to be able to admit when he’s being a dummy. Especially over the internet. You’re 20, you still have a couple of years, but I will say one thing: once you get in, you’re expected to behave as a professional. It doesn’t mean you won’t ever screw it up, but it does mean that a lot more eyes will be on you all the time.
I’m in my second year right now. I wrote the MCAT a little over 2 years ago, right after they eliminated the writing portion, but right before they added the new section (lucky!). Still, I set aside a month to study for it. It wasn’t a very fun month.[/quote]
Lucky bastard haha. Congrats on getting into medical school. I hear second year is the toughest so i’m sure you’re probably drained and stressed. Unfortunately for me I have to take the new beast, i’ve heard horror stories already. Btw is it MD or DO? I’m only asking because if it were DO I wanted some insight on it. So how hard is medical school? Is it just the volume that keeps you up every night or difficulty grasping concepts?
[quote]Aero51 wrote:
Isnt that alpha/beta shit teenagers say on Bodybuilding.com - Huge Online Supplement Store & Fitness Community!
Lol, you must be new around here…
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]Aero51 wrote:
Isnt that alpha/beta shit teenagers say on Bodybuilding.com - Huge Online Supplement Store & Fitness Community!
Lol, you must be new around here…[/quote]
Not new, just too alpha for this place anyway 
God even typing that makes me cringe.
[quote]Aero51 wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]Aero51 wrote:
Isnt that alpha/beta shit teenagers say on Bodybuilding.com - Huge Online Supplement Store & Fitness Community!
Lol, you must be new around here…[/quote]
Not new, just too alpha for this place anyway
God even typing that makes me cringe. [/quote]
Ya, lol, I hate the whole alpha/beta thing. It’s fucking non-sense.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]Aero51 wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]Aero51 wrote:
Isnt that alpha/beta shit teenagers say on Bodybuilding.com - Huge Online Supplement Store & Fitness Community!
Lol, you must be new around here…[/quote]
Not new, just too alpha for this place anyway
God even typing that makes me cringe. [/quote]
Ya, lol, I hate the whole alpha/beta thing. It’s fucking non-sense. [/quote]
I feel like saying things like “Im alpha” makes you…not an Alpha Male anyway. Because isn’t an alpha-human defined by their leadership roll…which requires doing something other than self promotion.
[quote]LiftHeavy360 wrote:
Her: I work on Friday too!! lol i’m working 9-2 Friday and 5-10 Saturday.
Me: What about sunday?
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I just wanted to add, that I would have asked if she wanted to grab that coffee at 3 on Saturday. It’s before her shift, she probably wants some caffeine before heading in, and she has an established out (no pressure). Mid afternoon. I don’t understand why you didn’t ask her to meet up for coffee before her shift