My Self Esteem Has Never Been Lower

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[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

For the record, I always like Mary Anns, but ended up with Gingers.

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And sometimes both!

Ahhhh…

Nah, when it was two, it was always two of the Ginger models.

The nice girls always ran away, probably because they were smart.

[quote]Powerpuff wrote:

Well, that was a REALLY old picture but thank you, sincerely. I’m pretty sure I peaked about 25 years ago. :wink: I was wondering how many people here got my Mary Ann and Ginger, and Flock of Seagulls Hair references. HA!!
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Of course I got them! Deserted tropical islands are inhabited by seagulls. ;}

[quote]pushharder wrote:
Now, PP and Ouro, you have to confess what your favorite Abba song was.[/quote]

What’s yours, Push? Mine’s “Dancing Queen”. Dig that bass!

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]BrickHead wrote:
It’s also not surprising considering what many young men look and act like. [/quote]
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Uh, no comment? Did you like this one? :wink:

[quote]LiftHeavy360 wrote:

[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
That girl just lacks the social skills to politely but frankly decline. This happens a lot. She doesn’t want to be rude, so she’ll make up excuses, invent a boyfriend, or friend-zone you. I hate to admit it, but I did this quite a bit, mostly because I didn’t know how to honestly communicate in a nice way. Don’t take it personally. You gave a perfectly nice offer, and the little joke about Starbucks was funny. She’s just not interested for whatever reason. She might have a crush on somebody else right now. It can be that simple.

If she were really interested when you suggested coffee, she would have said she was working, but was free on Thursday or whenever. And if she really has a boyfriend, she should have brought that up right out of the box when you asked for her number. She could have easily said, “Thanks, and I would but I’m dating someone right now.” [/quote]

I don’t get it then. Why do that? All she had to do was say she had a bf. When she agreed to get coffee with me she said, “yeah sure why not”. Hmmm why not? She already knew the answer to that question. Do some women live such boring lives that they have to take advantage of any form of drama they can to help spice things up? I mean it’s one thing to cheat on your bf, it’s another to toy with the emotions of a complete stranger. Women can be so cruel holy phuck. [/quote]

I don’t know why she said “Yeah sure why not.” You’ll never know. You’d think it would have been easier for her to quickly sidestep you by text when she can think through her responses without the face-to-face pressure. Just a guess here, but she gave you her number - Maybe because she didn’t know how to gracefully say no to your face. The unexpected face to face thing can catch a girl like a deer in the headlights. She was thinking all along that she was going to answer a text or two from you if you contacted her, and then make an excuse if you asked her out. There is no boyfriend. That’s my guess.

What Apoklyps said about not continuing to suggest times to meet up is spot on. If she says “Sorry, I have to work,” and you say “What’s your schedule like next week?”, and she comes back with something about how she’s slammed with work, and needs to write a big paper, and already has plans with her roommates - Then she’s trying to politely blow you off. So, you politely say, “Well, I’m on my way out but it was nice to meet you. TTYL” Forget about trying to make her “regret you.” That’s just silly.

If you were some total stranger who hit on me at the 7-11, no way I’d have given you my number, but it’s always easier to say, “Sorry, I have a boyfriend”, than to say “No, you’re a total stranger and you seem creepy.” :slight_smile: If the guy seemed normal, was friendly and was about my age, and from my school, I might have given him my number thinking I’d either find a nice way to brush him off later, or MAYBE that it would turn into some kind of friendship.

Lots of women will sometimes hang out with guys, or even accept dates when they are pretty sure there’s no romantic interest on their part at all. It generally not premeditated or mean-spiritied. They are unlikely to be thinking “Score! I’ve turned him into my beta-orbiter, stand-in for if I have no better plans! I’ll use him!” We may sometimes be in denial about accepting that the young man wouldn’t hang around just to be a friend, but we’re not usually doing it on purpose to be cruel.

[quote]SmilingPolitely wrote:
Did you send her a dick pic? Most women today like to know what kind of equipment they are dealing with right away. If a guy doesn’t send me a dick pic in the first 3 texts, I can only assume he has a small cock and I am not going to waste my time.

It is also important to include an item in the pic for size comparison so that the woman can properly assess length and girth. The weisenheimers on here will tell you that holding a shoe up is the best way to show a woman you are a man to be reckoned with, but that is a classic rookie move. The only acceptable item for size comparison is an American Express Black Card.

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So my copyrighted “Internet Ruler” where one inch on it measures half an inch in real life isn’t good enough?

Go figure.

And Hi SP! :slight_smile:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]Powerpuff wrote:

[quote]2busy wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:
Now THAT! is a purty woman! Wow!

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Yep.[/quote]

Concur. [/quote]

Well, that was a REALLY old picture but thank you, sincerely. I’m pretty sure I peaked about 25 years ago. :wink: I was wondering how many people here got my Mary Ann and Ginger, and Flock of Seagulls Hair references. HA!!
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I doubt any of the three of us old farts missed it.[/quote]

I didn’t miss the references, lol

[quote]pushharder wrote:
Now, PP and Ouro, you have to confess what your favorite Abba song was.[/quote]

Slipping Through my Fingers and Our Last Summer. I’ll admit that I’ve watched Mama Mia about a zillion times. When Meryl Streep sings Slipping Through My Fingers in that movie, it really kills me.

[quote]Powerpuff wrote:

[quote]LiftHeavy360 wrote:

[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
That girl just lacks the social skills to politely but frankly decline. This happens a lot. She doesn’t want to be rude, so she’ll make up excuses, invent a boyfriend, or friend-zone you. I hate to admit it, but I did this quite a bit, mostly because I didn’t know how to honestly communicate in a nice way. Don’t take it personally. You gave a perfectly nice offer, and the little joke about Starbucks was funny. She’s just not interested for whatever reason. She might have a crush on somebody else right now. It can be that simple.

If she were really interested when you suggested coffee, she would have said she was working, but was free on Thursday or whenever. And if she really has a boyfriend, she should have brought that up right out of the box when you asked for her number. She could have easily said, “Thanks, and I would but I’m dating someone right now.” [/quote]

I don’t get it then. Why do that? All she had to do was say she had a bf. When she agreed to get coffee with me she said, “yeah sure why not”. Hmmm why not? She already knew the answer to that question. Do some women live such boring lives that they have to take advantage of any form of drama they can to help spice things up? I mean it’s one thing to cheat on your bf, it’s another to toy with the emotions of a complete stranger. Women can be so cruel holy phuck. [/quote]

I don’t know why she said “Yeah sure why not.” You’ll never know. You’d think it would have been easier for her to quickly sidestep you by text when she can think through her responses without the face-to-face pressure. Just a guess here, but she gave you her number - Maybe because she didn’t know how to gracefully say no to your face. The unexpected face to face thing can catch a girl like a deer in the headlights. She was thinking all along that she was going to answer a text or two from you if you contacted her, and then make an excuse if you asked her out. There is no boyfriend. That’s my guess.

What Apoklyps said about not continuing to suggest times to meet up is spot on. If she says “Sorry, I have to work,” and you say “What’s your schedule like next week?”, and she comes back with something about how she’s slammed with work, and needs to write a big paper, and already has plans with her roommates - Then she’s trying to politely blow you off. So, you politely say, “Well, I’m on my way out but it was nice to meet you. TTYL” Forget about trying to make her “regret you.” That’s just silly.

If you were some total stranger who hit on me at the 7-11, no way I’d have given you my number, but it’s always easier to say, “Sorry, I have a boyfriend”, than to say “No, you’re a total stranger and you seem creepy.” :slight_smile: If the guy seemed normal, was friendly and was about my age, and from my school, I might have given him my number thinking I’d either find a nice way to brush him off later, or MAYBE that it would turn into some kind of friendship.

Lots of women will sometimes hang out with guys, or even accept dates when they are pretty sure there’s no romantic interest on their part at all. It generally not premeditated or mean-spiritied. They are unlikely to be thinking “Score! I’ve turned him into my beta-orbiter, stand-in for if I have no better plans! I’ll use him!” We may sometimes be in denial about accepting that the young man wouldn’t hang around just to be a friend, but we’re not usually doing it on purpose to be cruel.

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I agree with most of what you said and thank you for your response. I don’t think she has a bf either, I’ve stated that from the beginning. However if you read our conversation, her telling me it’s family day and that she’s sorry she’s usually not that mean and yadda yadda.

It just seems like she’s looking for some type of validation or attention. It’s one thing if you don’t have enough courage to reject someone when they’re right in front of you. It’s a whole different ball game whhil texting, she had more than enough opportunities to be straight up with me. She was under no pressure and it was weird because she would respond like 30 seconds after I texted her. So this made me think she was interested.

Me on the other had, I would average almost 15 mins per text (this was not on purpose) Beside the coffee offer, I was actually the passive one in the covno. I even ended the convo first before it became a texting marathon. She ‘allegedly’ works two minimum wage jobs to help support her family. I felt bad for her, if things went further I could have helped her get a job with my current employer (the starting pay is $20hr).

Also i’ll be going to medical school in about two years and will eventually become a doctor. I never mentioned where I worked or what i’m going to school for. She probably sees me as some low class loser but little does she know it’s the opposite. This would be the last time I cold approach a girl. My friend told me to never ask out a library girl because they’re all batchit crazy, I guess he was right haha.

I just read this whole thread :frowning:

OP if the break up of this ‘relationship’ has you this worked up God help the woman in the breakup of a serious relationship with you.
You should really think about that statement b/c you’re not ready for the deep end of the pool.

[quote]xboxwarrior wrote:
I just read this whole thread :frowning:

OP if the break up of this ‘relationship’ has you this worked up God help the woman in the breakup of a serious relationship with you.
You should really think about that statement b/c you’re not ready for the deep end of the pool.

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I didn’t mention this but I’m actually coming off a break up. We were together for almost three years. That’s why this hurt me as much as it did. I was already down got up and got knocked down again. That’s why I sound like a beta in the convo.

I’m very sorry to hear that. I think you should stay away from flirtatious and dating situations until your back on your feet, so to speak.

This was a dabble into the dating game and you are not ready. Yet :slight_smile:

[quote]LiftHeavy360 wrote:

[quote]xboxwarrior wrote:
I just read this whole thread :frowning:

OP if the break up of this ‘relationship’ has you this worked up God help the woman in the breakup of a serious relationship with you.
You should really think about that statement b/c you’re not ready for the deep end of the pool.

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I didn’t mention this but I’m actually coming off a break up. We were together for almost three years. That’s why this hurt me as much as it did. I was already down got up and got knocked down again. [/quote]

I’m sure you’ve heard this but it gets better. Keep getting up - stop focusing on finding a replacement and dedicate time to yourself … do things you’ve always wanted to do because YOU want to. Focus on that for a while - don’t worry about girls.

[quote]Powerpuff wrote:

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
I hate to admit it, but I did this quite a bit, mostly because I didn’t know how to honestly communicate in a nice way. [/quote]

I don’t doubt you left a trail of broken Mormon boys hearts from one end of the BYU campus to the other.[/quote]

Wel… Not so much. There was an awkward year where I cut my hair off so I looked like Alice from Dilbert, then there was some trouble with my contacts so I had to wear some really thick glasses, then there was the unfortunate spiral perm… :slight_smile:

It’s pretty hard to be a big fish in that pond. It’s a huge school with a lot of really beautiful women. One of the girls I was close friends with had been a runner up in the Miss California pageant. Pic of me from back then with my BIG late 1980’s hair and boxy sweater. At least I never went through a Flock of Seagulls phase.
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You said I claimed that I would have been all over you.

Most likely I did say that, that is like 80s perfection.

You would have made out with a douchebag instead though…

[quote]SmilingPolitely wrote:
Did you send her a dick pic? Most women today like to know what kind of equipment they are dealing with right away. If a guy doesn’t send me a dick pic in the first 3 texts, I can only assume he has a small cock and I am not going to waste my time.

It is also important to include an item in the pic for size comparison so that the woman can properly assess length and girth. The weisenheimers on here will tell you that holding a shoe up is the best way to show a woman you are a man to be reckoned with, but that is a classic rookie move. The only acceptable item for size comparison is an American Express Black Card.

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Well, at least you have a tiny bit of asshole inside of you…

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Powerpuff wrote:

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
I hate to admit it, but I did this quite a bit, mostly because I didn’t know how to honestly communicate in a nice way. [/quote]

I don’t doubt you left a trail of broken Mormon boys hearts from one end of the BYU campus to the other.[/quote]

Wel… Not so much. There was an awkward year where I cut my hair off so I looked like Alice from Dilbert, then there was some trouble with my contacts so I had to wear some really thick glasses, then there was the unfortunate spiral perm… :slight_smile:

It’s pretty hard to be a big fish in that pond. It’s a huge school with a lot of really beautiful women. One of the girls I was close friends with had been a runner up in the Miss California pageant. Pic of me from back then with my BIG late 1980’s hair and boxy sweater. At least I never went through a Flock of Seagulls phase.
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You said I claimed that I would have been all over you.

Most likely I did say that, that is like 80s perfection.

You would have made out with a douchebag instead though…[/quote]

@ all over you… I never said that you said that!! I’m remembering some very old thread where people were talking about the 80’s and early 90’s. We were laughing about mullets and big hair, and you said I was pretty or something to that effect. You’ve always cool to me here, Orion. And thank you.