My Posture


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[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
drc wrote:
Bushy,
Sorry man, Evidently I don’t know how to quote properly. The above post contains my references and responses.
Regards,
Dr C

Cool, thanks for the response. I’ll have a look at the info you have provided.

I will say that it’s interesting to hear your perspective on the Xrays. Interesting because here there is NO WAY you could justify taking a full spine series (in the UK), unless you actively suspect a tumour or serious bone pathology.

In fact, if you were to take the Xrays like that, and the GCC found out, you would be up before a disciplinary committee.

Bushy[/quote]

Yeah I have heard that the GCC is very difficult to get along with. Not letting you practice chiropractic, but rather limiting you to being a glorified physical therapist…not an insult to you at all. What I mean by that, is allowing you the freedom to use clinical outcome measure such as pre/post x-rays, full spine imaging regardless of whether the patient has symptoms or not.

Our scope of practice in NA is much more diverse. Excuse my ignorance…are chiropractors primary health care practitioners in the UK?

You’re too focused on this posture thing. Lift some damn heavy-ass weights.

[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
This picture does not have sufficient landmarks to work with properly - your ears are not visible, and the wasteband of your shorts is too high on your left. We really need to see the ASIS on both sides.

However, two things are clear from the pic.

Firstly, your shoulders are level. Good :wink:

Secondly bothe your feet are externally rotated, the right noticeably moreso than the left. Same with me, actually.

This suggests tight piriformis, since the knees are also ex.rotated.

A couple of ‘guesses’ from the pic:

Firstly it appears that you might have some degree of tibial torsion.

Secondly, whilst it looks initially as though you might have a lateral tilt to your pelvis, this is probably due to your wasteband only.

Bushy[/quote]

True. Being able to see the ASIS’s would be helpful.

Bushy, I disagree with your assessment. He has a left pelvic translation relative to the feet…draw a line straight down from his umbilicus to the gound… Notice haw it sets inside his right foot? He also has a right thoracic lateral flexion relative to the pelvis. He in fact has a high left shoulder…check his nipples. It is tough to see because I suspect he has left thoracic cage rotation in the y-axis relative to the pelvis. I can’t see the ears, but I suspect that he has a high left ear…tighter right SCM.

Secondly bothe your feet are externally rotated, the right noticeably moreso than the left. Same with me, actually.

This is largely due to dural tension (Dejarnette - father of sacro-occipital technique determined this years ago) - affects the lateral corticospinal tract (Check out Burl Pettibon’s stuff - awesome). Can create increased tone in the extensors.

There is no such thing as a lateral tilt of the pelvis. Can’t happen biomechanically - even with an anatomically short leg.

I’m sorry, but how is a better posture supposed to help you get bigger? I care more about how small and weak you are than whether your hips are tilted this or that way. Go eat and lift.

I haven’t read everything yet,
but seems that it does confirm what I was thinking - in a more technical way ofc.
Your discussion doesnt bother me at all - I actually find it very intresting.
So, focus on dl’s, horizonal rows, squats, serratus anterior work, humerus external rotators work and streching for the pecs, hip flexors, ham’s and pitiformis, thoracic mobility - am I on track here?

BF bullpup -
In the military I learned in the hard way that
building a good foundation is of utmost importance.

How much do you think I’m going to progress if my shoulder is screaming when I BP?
I can barely DL from an inch under my knee because my hamstrings are so tight.
You are right, I should lift heavy and eat alot - but that’s not contradicting at all.

[quote]Butchke wrote:
BF bullpup -
In the military I learned in the hard way that
building a good foundation is of utmost importance.
[/quote]

Building a foundation is one thing. Finding excuses to delay hard work is another.

I don’t know. You don’t look like you bench press at all. Shouldn’t you stretch them? And reduce the weight from 225 to 95 until your form and strength improve?

What does your posture have to do with tight hamstrings? If your hammies are tight, stretch them. Didn’t the military teach you to stretch?

Your posture can take care of itself. You need to lift. The only thing I saw in your original photo is a normal guy who doesn’t lift. Don’t fool yourself in thinking that you are a special case who should be analyzed to the death by strangers.

a Kyhosis fix

A few years ago after a shoulder injury I went to a physio who stated I had kyphosis.
He recommended a 6 week course of taping the spine with 1 inch med tape from the base of the neck to the base of the hips. This gentlly pulled if my posture dropped less than ideal and after 6 weeks my muscles in my back had tightened and the new ideal posture remained.
but for 6 weeks I walked around at attention but it worked.

My two cents,
tape for 6 weeks (remove tape when at gym)
and send new photos after 6 weeks

Yes lift heavy…

But here’s a little trick I do because even though I can lift pretty heavy I have turtle head if I am not cautious.

While driving I push my head back against the headrest for sets…

oh yeah lift heavy also… Deads are IMHO the best exercise ever!

hope this helps.

I don’t use the situation as an excuse.
Of course you think I’m not benching,
that’s because I’m not.
I don’t have weights yet.
But I train with my bodyweight until my order arrives.
I’m just starting to train now.

My last year in the military included alot of sitting.
I used to sit alot before I enlisted.
And my uneducated opinion based on some better educated opinions then mine is that alot of sitting is related to certain muscles tightness.
This tightness can impact performance and might even injury in the long run.

Yes, I shouldn’t let the guys over analyze me to death while sitting and waiting for some miracle and I don’t.
I find the suggestions and the analysis intresting but that’s not keeping me from using what I have for now.

I just want to start on the right side of things, trying to minimize chances for injury
and getting some general idea for what is better and what’s to avoid in this situation.

Thanks for the reply

Agreed. And why even focus on lifting as the means to correct your posture? Just pull your damn shoulders back and down, thrust your chest out more, imagine a string is pulling the top of your head upwards, and whatever else shit you need to do.
It won’t feel natural at first, just keep it up and eventually it will.

[quote]Nate Dogg wrote:
You’re too focused on this posture thing. Lift some damn heavy-ass weights. [/quote]

I’m sure you’ve heard enough people tell you to just lift something heavy so I wont say it again. What I will say is you’re getting some good advice here for free. Take what you can from it and get to work!

Your posture problem (if you have one) is not going to be resolved overnight, so in the meantime, if you don’t have access to weights continue doing pushups and add a backpack full of books or something to make it challenging. There are plenty of things you can do with just a 5$ bag of sand…you just have to want it bad enough.

good luck

ha! From my experience, the full top to bottom x-ray is a standard first visit gimmick to show you how “Bad” your spine is, and all the work that you need done.