[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
If you live with your mom chances are you are young enough not to need supplements.
Spend your money on whole food protein.
You will be on your own soon enough and then you can do what you want.[/quote]
i dont think thats true, Just because you live with your mom doesnt mean anything. Im 17 and im still home and my diet is very much in check so why would i not want add supps to futher supplement myself
Tell her that if she keeps throwing away your creatine, you’ll just stop cooking your meat so you can get enough of it in your diet. Then you’ll probably get all sorts of horrible disease from the uncooked meats, simply because she went anal about a -supplement-
Knowing that this is a -supplement- rather than a drug, which occurs naturally in foods. You’re just increasing your intake to optimal levels.
In the cave-man hunter-gatherer days, they didnt have the issue of mass-produced meats with diseases, so they could eat their meat raw and get enough creatine. You, however, can not. So its best you supplement with it.
That argument worked on my mum when she went ghey on me.
And boo to the few people who are telling you not to use it. Yeah, make sure you’re eating 100% first and you’ll make massive gains. Then if you have spare cash, invest in creatine and you’ll smash out a few more reps at the gym, which will cause massive gains +1.
Once (when I was younger) I got arrested and spent a few days in jail for a prank, but my parents freaked out and went though my room. I had some creatine in a ziplock in my gym bag, and they flushed it down the toilet “just in case.”
Forget that stuff, you don’t need it to make massive gains. Tell her you won’t take it if she buys you extra gallons of milk to drink instead. It does the body good.
[quote]crod266 wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
If you live with your mom chances are you are young enough not to need supplements.
Spend your money on whole food protein.
You will be on your own soon enough and then you can do what you want.
i dont think thats true, Just because you live with your mom doesnt mean anything. Im 17 and im still home and my diet is very much in check so why would i not want add supps to futher supplement myself[/quote]
Zap’s right - creatine is not the end-all-be-all of supplements anyway. If you insist on using it, then explain to her or prove that creatine isn’t harmful - otherwise hide it.
Otherwise, lots of whole food will do a lot more than creatine ever did.
Yeah ive been doing the eating really clean thing for a good 7 months now. I just want to feel creatine out. I mean who knows it might give me an edge. I definitly agree with what everyone has had to say about eating whole foods.
Im still continuing to eat healthy, the way I have been, but I just want to see how creatine effects me. Ive been training and eating healthy for enough time for it possibly have a noticable effect. I just want to find what all the buzz was about.
Whilst it is annoying that your mum chucked your creatine it is not the end of the world. I think most of the people who have posted above have the right idea. Although there is a comprimise.
Firstly at 16, I didn’t touch weights I just played soccer for about two hours a day with my mates and that was enough. Unless you are lifting with a team then at 16 I would just go out an enjoy yourself and do a body circuit in your room.
Secondly, your BCAA only cost you $30 of which you got back $20 which is about £12. Ever considered how much money your parents spend on you going to school/food/travel?. As a poster said above about “exchanging creatine for free rent” your parents are ‘god-like’.
The way to approach your mother would be to wait a week or so then approach her with a sound argument (having a big bibliography DOES NOT MAKE A GOOD ARTICLE!!!). But then explain to her that there are alternatives, like meat which if you get more of will make a greater difference than creatine, and that you will stick with those because you respect her decision as it’s her roof. It is then your decision whether you lie afterwards and have a secret stash.
the same articals she printed out that said it led to dehydration and kidney failure,didnt say why?
heres the wiki Creatine - Wikipedia
if you read on it,what creatine does is basicly ist stored in your muscles for later use.
it sucks water up and fills up your muscles liek a water ballons.
this is how it causes dehydration,and the dehydration is the cause of kidney problems.
so drink more water,its pretty simple.
whats bad though is she wasted the money spent on it and not the fact that its good or bad for you.
but at 16 theres little you can do,sadly you have to allow her to raise you the way she wants.
she knows everything and you are a dumb misguided child.
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
if there’s alcohol in the house throw it all away and see what she says. “mom, alcohol causes dehydration and is toxic to the liver”[/quote]
There it is. Cigarettes and shitty food too. Toss it all and see who breaks. Say you are trying to make the family more health conscious.
If you have ignorant parents, you’re fucked as far as reasoning goes. Hide it or wait until you’re out of the house.
That sucks for you. The people who suggested showing studies that prove the safety and effectiveness of creatine were right on. But don’t just throw a stack of studies at her. She’ll get defensive and deny, and you’ll have nothing left.
Instead, give her one. She’ll get defensive and deny, but just ask her to read it and leave it at that. The next day, give her another, and the next day another, and so on until she caves or you move out.
Regarding the idea of keeping it in your locker, the school administrators are likely to be more ignorant and anal on the subject than your mom, so you probably shouldn’t do that.
[quote]Uncle Gabby wrote:
crod266 wrote:
…Im 17 and im still home and my diet is very much in check …
Then you’re gaining fine and don’t need creatine.
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no one needs creatine, but it’s nice to have.
It really bugs me when people say someone doesn’t need something as far as supplement. Well, no one needs a supplement, but they’re there for our benefit. And it’s only creatine, at his age I was a walking GNC store, lol