This poem was posted in Get A Life Forum and I think it is a great depiction of what a Man should be.
IF
IF you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
Or being hated, don’t give way to hating,
And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise:
If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:
If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: ‘Hold on!’
If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
’ Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch,
if neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
And - which is more - you’ll be a Man, my son!
hey i just found this site.i also am leaving for RT soon.20090413 Your workouts look really good.I wish i would have started working out right when I joined the DEP. I only have around 1 month left and my cardio isnt where it should be.i also need to get my pull ups up
[quote]Devil Dog Autry wrote:
This poem was posted in Get A Life Forum and I think it is a great depiction of what a Man should be.
IF
IF you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
Or being hated, don’t give way to hating,
And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise:
If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:
If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: ‘Hold on!’
If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
’ Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch,
if neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
And - which is more - you’ll be a Man, my son!
-Rudyard Kipling[/quote]
My absolute favorite, read it as a senior in high school.
[quote]crazy712 wrote:
hey i just found this site.i also am leaving for RT soon.20090413 Your workouts look really good.I wish i would have started working out right when I joined the DEP. I only have around 1 month left and my cardio isnt where it should be.i also need to get my pull ups up
IST as of yesterday
Pull ups-14
crunches-86
1 1/2 mile-10:45[/quote]
Those are some great stats man.
I wish I had those stats right when I DEP’d in.
I actually read Leatherneck almost everyday but I don’t have an account.
My biggest issue as well is cardio.
I’m 5’7 and weigh 200lbs so my running endurance is deplorable.
I’m best with short high intensity exercises so lately I’ve decided to change my mind set about the 3 mile run.
I used to think of it as a long distance race but recently I’ve decided to treat it as a sprint.
I don’t mean an actual sprint because I would get maybe 800m and pass out after sprinting but I mean in how I train for it.
I’m going to start really training the 400m, 800m, and 1 mile for speed in addition to running 3 miles a few times a week. Hopefully this will start slicing seconds off my time before I ship.
I also am going to add in actual long distance runs one day a week to prepare me for the long runs we will perform in Boot.
I’m glad I have a fellow poolee reading my log and I hope you continue to do so.
So what MOS are you going for?
I am under a UH Infantry contract and hope to be a 0311.
“Lone Survivor” is an awesome read and I love it so far. I’m half way done with it and I don’t want it to end. His depictions of BUD/S are griping. What they have to endure during Hell Week is gruesome.
After this book I’m going to read “The March Up” and then “We Were Soldiers”.
I really need to so my body can begin to adapt to those long distances. I know at first those runs will be painfully slow but i need to do it.
crazy712
I wanted infantry from day one.
I decided to join in June of last year but infantry was full so I waited till Oct to enlist. I told my recruiter the first day that I “wanted to kick in doors and lob hand grenades”.
I briefly browsed over the DEP Fitness Book but decided not to follow it so I wouldn’t know.
I do know that there is no way I will get down to 185lbs which is the ship weight for my height so diet tray here I come. The way I look at it is if I weigh 200lbs then I’ll probably lose around 30lbs and if I was 185lb then I’d still lose around 30lbs so I’d rather come out heavier than lighter.
Sorry to hi-jack the thread, but yes if you actually follow what is prescribed in the DEP book it would give you a good foundational base.
I use the words foundational base because it will produce mediocre results, but results that meet the very low physical standards of entry-level training.
Therefore, I’de advise you to be more ambitious and not to merely settle. But to each his own…pushing everything to the extreme is not for everybody, but hell I have trouble understanding that concept.
I only briefly skimmed over it but I agree with you mbarret. The book is written by the NSCA and they defiantly play to the larger audience who I’m sure is assumed to be untrained and lacking in training knowledge.
I think its great they do it that way so anyone can jump on board and get in decent shape but I just think most people could and should go above that. If you’re a fat body who has never trained then yeah follow the plan and you’ll see results. If you have experience and are well above the IST standards then you probably know what to do and how to get there.
I assumed I could do a better job by designing my own workouts because I know my body and my strengths and weaknesses. I have done an OK job, nothing spectacular, but decent.
mbarret6
I know you’ve told me that Boot isn’t that bad physically as long as you’re in shape. So how much do the physical requirements change for SOI, the fleet, and if you’ve experienced it, combat?
I don’t mean PFT standards but general physical conditioning to excel in my job and be able to effectively accomplish missions.
ya the DEP training book is a little weak for someone who can already meet the IST standards.For some reason i cant seem to get my pull ups any higher.I only have about 1 1/2 months left and i am stuck on 14
Well I’ll be the first to admit that SOI really wasn’t that hard physically either. Echo Company, my training company while at SOI really only PT’d maybe one to two times a week with like a 3-4 mile run or like a CFT. Hikes weren’t really that much fun either though, they were definitely more challenging. However, there is a definite suck factor… being up till 2am and then waking at 4am for a 3 mile “speed-hike” and then a 5 hour patrol followed by the a 5 mile endurance type course and then a 12 mile march back to the barracks isn’t really fun. But again anyone that isn’t a weak bitch can deal with it.
Now as for being a fleet Marine, thats definitely something I’m not, I’m a reservist with Echo Company 4th LAR so I really couldn’t tell you much about being in the fleet. But from what I saw its not such a huge step up, I’ve seen a lot of fat out of shape Marines. However, IMO they get by almost on sheer determination and tenacity; Marines don’t let things beat them… they conquer every obstacle. So I mean what they lack in terms of physical capabilities they make up for in motivation to not be beat.
I’ve never been to combat either, my unit is currently on a workup for a deployment to Iraq and they didn’t take me on it so… I can’t really offer any advice. But, if I were to speculate, nothing can really prepare you for combat. But a good GPP platform I think is a place to start.
As for the NSCA… well I’m currently preparing to take my NSCA-CPT exam next month and let me tell you… the content covered is a stupid joke.