My Goal: 170 Lbs. and Cut

Is gaining LBM something that’s easier for newbies to do? Assuming all other things being equal, for every 10 lbs of LBM you gain, is the next 10 lbs that much more difficult?

[quote]Defender wrote:
Is gaining LBM something that’s easier for newbies to do? Assuming all other things being equal, for every 10 lbs of LBM you gain, is the next 10 lbs that much more difficult?[/quote]

Yes.

The more you gain, the more difficult it is to gain more.

[quote]Defender wrote:
Is gaining LBM something that’s easier for newbies to do? Assuming all other things being equal, for every 10 lbs of LBM you gain, is the next 10 lbs that much more difficult?[/quote]

Not only that, but 10lbs of LEAN BODY MASS is not the same as 10lbs of body weight. Body weight is the combination of muscle tissue, fat, bones and organs. Lean body mass is strictly referring to muscle gains.

It can take a few years for some people with average genetics to gain over 20lbs of pure lean body mass. That is why someone saying they don’t want to get too big makes other trainers want to hurt them. You have to work hard to get big. It doesn’t happen for no reason by accident.

X is spot on here once again. Competitive BB’s shoot for maybe 5 lbs of quality LBM a bulking season. Gaining 20lbs of LBM, will not be done anywhere but in the kitchen, over the span of years of hard work.

[quote]hit the gym wrote:

excellent analysis, thanks. I will more than likely follow this advice. Yes I am rather going for the athletic physique.
(I posted pictures at 160 not too long ago. your numbers seem good)

KNowing that I want an athletic physique, what ideal weight would you recommend then? Keep in mind that im 5’9".

About being “ripped”… All i know is i would like my muscles defined and a definite 6pack. I hope this is possible without bf% so low that it is unhealty and I feel weak though.

I know I am talking ahead alot but I am setting my goals. They are pretty clear though, thanks for the help. I will try to reach them for next summer. Yes I have alot of work.[/quote]

I don’t know if you are on still on your kick about the Shawn Crawford thing…but I figure I’d inform you that he is in fact around 190lbs and not less than 185. How do I know this? One of my teammates (sprint team), has actually competed at events where Crawford has been and talked with him on numerous occasions. My friend also went on to say the top sprinters for whatever reason list their weight as less than what it actually is. This certainly backs up what Prof X was talking about with athletes fibbing about their weight…Bettis, 255lbs, yeah right.

[quote]hit the gym wrote:
excellent analysis, thanks. I will more than likely follow this advice. Yes I am rather going for the athletic physique.
(I posted pictures at 160 not too long ago. your numbers seem good)

KNowing that I want an athletic physique, what ideal weight would you recommend then? Keep in mind that im 5’9".

About being “ripped”… All i know is i would like my muscles defined and a definite 6pack. I hope this is possible without bf% so low that it is unhealty and I feel weak though.

I know I am talking ahead alot but I am setting my goals. They are pretty clear though, thanks for the help. I will try to reach them for next summer. Yes I have alot of work.[/quote]

Your optimal weight is pretty well determined by sport performance and feeling healthy. Really, it depends on what you want to do when you get there. In the absence of organized stats on sport performance, it’s purely what you look at in the mirror and how good you feel about your abilities.

I tend to think when you finally reach your goal weight, you’ll want to look a bit heavier. Or maybe you will have switched goals completely. Like to MMA or rock climbing, or whatever. First things first, you have to get in the kitchen and focus on THIS goal.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

However, unless you are involved in the same activity, when it comes to his muscular development, that shouldn’t take most beginners very long at all to reach if they are focused.

I just have a hard time understanding why goals are set so low currently. I could have stopped lifting the same year I started and matched that size.[/quote]

Maybe to someone with years and years of training experience, having a goal of reaching a physique similar to Shawn Crawford is a bit low.

But as a beginner, attaining Shawn Crawford’s physique is a pretty impressive goal already and not something that most beginners (even with dedication) can achieve in a year.

[quote]loctite_zexel wrote:
Professor X wrote:

However, unless you are involved in the same activity, when it comes to his muscular development, that shouldn’t take most beginners very long at all to reach if they are focused.

I just have a hard time understanding why goals are set so low currently. I could have stopped lifting the same year I started and matched that size.

Maybe to someone with years and years of training experience, having a goal of reaching a physique similar to Shawn Crawford is a bit low.

But as a beginner, attaining Shawn Crawford’s physique is a pretty impressive goal already and not something that most beginners (even with dedication) can achieve in a year.[/quote]

I didn’t say “most beginners could reach his size in a year”. I said I could have. There is a rather large difference there. Further, we agree that a rank beginner, especially a couple of the guys who are the focus of this thread, would need to work hard to reach that.

That is the point we are trying to get into their heads between this thread and the other they are posting in on the same topic…that what they seem to think is minor takes hard work and focus on getting bigger and stronger, not smaller and leaner.