Hey thanks so much man! Glad you appreciated it.
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Do you have any other recommended reading for someone interested in trying this? I have Unleashing The Wild Physique (which I got more for it’s training discussion but found it underwhelming there, but I digress) and Keys to Progress has a similar Definition Diet series of articles, but was just curious.
I’ve been struggling immensely with my diet lately, mostly digestive problems and the mental stress that comes from that. And it got me thinking, if I just gave myself permission to eat what I want, when I want, what would that look like? And it would honestly probably be a lot of steaks, eggs, roasts, and sausages, with the occasional foray into something decadent like a pizza or casserole. So it’s pretty tempting to hear that is a legitimate option.
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Do you mean the definition diet in particular, or diets also along it’s line? Because really, Vince wrote it all out in the Wild Physique. If you’re looking for stuff similar to it, in a cyclical ketogenic manner, there’s Dan Duchaine’s “Bodyopus”. If you’re looking for how to eat purely in a ketogenic style while training, there’s “Ketogenic Bodybuilding” by Robert Sikes. Both of these books involve counting/tracking, whereas the Maximum Definition diet didn’t, so it’s where they differ. I suppose the Deep Water e-book employs a similar menu to here, but no carb up meals, and far more frequent eating, but no counting/tracking.
Oh yeah, Jamie Lewis “Apex Predator Diet” would actually fit the bill somewhat well here too. You’d have to rely on protein shakes for a lot of the days, but one to two days a week you’d have a heavy keto day, and 1 day a week you’d have a “Rampage Day”, which would facilitate those indulgences.
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Yeah I should have specified Vince’s version in particular. All the other diets have something that immediately turns me off, whether it be the shakes, the counting, or the lack of carb meals. I’m not interested in full keto, it’s the “yeah you can put down a huge plate of spaghetti when you take your girlfriend to the Italian restaurant she’s been begging to go to and then live off sirloins and sunny sides the next 3 days” and have it be a legitimate approach that calls to me.
Did you find any other resources on Vince’s approach, or anything that you found helpful in following it? Or you feel pretty good that Vince gives all the tools one needs to succeed?
Did you find any other resources on Vince’s approach, or anything that you found helpful in following it? Or you feel pretty good that Vince gives all the tools one needs to succeed?
I just used what he laid out in the book “Meat and eggs, unlimited. Only daily allowed is butter and cream”. I went from 3 meals down to 2, because I saw Robert Kiltz make that recommendation in his own discussion of the diet, and that hinges from his belief that it’s better to NOT force the body to spend so much time digesting in order to heal the gut, and I found it worked for me, but others have found success following it in Vince’s way.
I DO feel like Vince simply never hung around TRULY big eaters though, because I definitely avoided “unlimited” in my consumption, haha. Right now, I’m using this exact same format to GAIN weight, just because I still dig the dietary structure
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Do you have a link to that? I think I found what you are talking about but like to make sure I’m not playing the phone game, haha.
Attempting to google it is turning up nothing. He may have taken the article down from his website. He’s had something of a “crisis of faith” recently, so there’s a potential for that. But ultimately, it was just an explanation of how eating steak and eggs for every meal wasn’t going to kill you, and then it laid out the diet as 2x a day rather the 3x, and without the supplements listed. Also no recommendation for the re-carb meal. Steak was .75-1.25lbs and eggs were like 4 per meal, going off memory.
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IIRC the Maximum Definition Diet is just adding one more feeding of beef / eggs ?? As opposed to steak and eggs 2 x a day
I laid out the entire thing in the first post.
Just finished a cab backloading phase… zero positive results. Lots of achy joints, though. Back to beef, eggs, sardines
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