Getting Bigger, Stronger, Leaner And HEALTHY Over The Last 15 months: Lessons Learned

Hey folks,

I took a progress photo the other day

that documented changes I’ve undergone since 2 Mar of 2023 until now, getting “Bigger, Stronger and Leaner”, to include my most recent all time low bodyweight in the middle, which was last year in July. I went from 201lbs to start to 165lbs in the middle to 181lbs this month, having gained up to 185 before skinnying down just a little.

I’ve gained and lost weight in the past, but this was my first time having done so WITHOUT resorting to some of my previous dirty tricks of junk food or starvation protocols, instead relying heavily on the Velocity Diet as my baseline and the Carnivore way of eating to fill out my solid food. I wanted to share the journey, experience, and lessons learned.

SUMMARY UP FRONT

• Never counted calories or macros. Transitioned from eating a diet full of keto junk food (“keto friendly” tortillas, breads, bagels, pasta, sauces, sweeteners, cookies/cakes/brownies, protein/keto bars, flavored nutbutters) and filler veggies to a carnivore approach to eating paired with protein shakes for a protein sparing modified fast. Made use of a 2 week cut/4 week bulk style of eating for a vast majority of my losing and gaining. Changed up my form on a lot of exercises. Used a LOT of different programs (Mass Made Simple and Easy Strength, Jamie Lewis’ “Feast, Famine and Ferocity” and “Juggeryoke”, DoggCrapp, and some self-designed programs).

BACKGROUND

• The first photo is of me at a bodyweight of 201lbs at 5’9 on 2 Mar 2023. The second photo is me at around 165lbs in mid July of 2023, and the final photo was taken last week, July of 2024, weighing in around 181lbs, having gained up as high as 185 in the previous month. And I want to point out that, through this whole process, I’ve never counted a calorie or macro. I’ve never found it necessary.

• In the photo of me at 201, I had just completed Super Squats. This was my third run and I was eating, honestly, just terribly. I’ve always been “low carb”, but in my pursuit of keeping carbs low, I was eating a LOT of “keto junk”. “Keto friendly” tortillas, breads, bagels, brownies/cookies/treats, flavored peanut/almond butter spreads, quest/keto bars, artificial sweeteners out the yin/yang, tons of sugar free energy drinks, etc etc. I was also eating a lot of vegetables because, for some reason, I was ALWAYS hungry, and, in turn, my guts were an absolute wreck from all the artificial garbage paired with all the fiber. I was putting away a lot of “food like objects” to get in growth, and I was also having about 6 bloody bowel movements a day to fuel that. I could not sustain living like that, despite how big and strong I became.

• To reset myself, I took on the T-Nation Velocity Diet, which I’d read about previously in Dan John’s “Never Let Go” book (an amazing read: please do yourself a favor and go pick it up), and ended up forming my own amalgamation, wherein I was having a solid midday meal along with an end of day meal about 3 days a week, but in order to meet the intent of the Velocity Diet I’d keep one of those meals pure protein via egg whites and VERY lean meat, and the other meal would be “meat on the bone” to get in some fats. Effectively, I had a hybrid carnivore diet, wherein I’d engage in a daily protein sparing modified fast using protein shakes during the day, and then a big meat on the bone meal in the evening. This had me lose 13.5lbs in 43 days, which is slightly longer than the originally slated 28 day run of the Velocity Diet, but this approach to nutrition ended up forming my baseline that I STILL use to this day.

• I continued employing the Velocity Diet approach while my weight continued to drop, to include some pretty epic “Rampage Day” meals (like the time I ate a 5lb cheeseburger in 30 minutes before settling into one of Jamie’s nutrition and training protocols: the Feast, Famine and Ferocity diet. This differed from the Velocity Diet because it employed a cyclical approach to nutrition. There are 2 weeks of famine and 4 weeks of feasting, with the former being a more restricted version of the PSMF similar to the OG Velocity Diet (which was all shakes) and the latter being simply unrelenting gluttony, similar in a way to the ABCDE Diet. I used the latter opportunity to effective allow myself 2 solid protein and fat meals a day on top of all of the shakes compared to my previous 1 solid meal a day approach. It also included a training plan that coincided with the diet, with a 2 week famine protocol and 4 week feast protocol.

• And she I ended up REALLY digging the cyclical dietary protocol, and employed all the way to that middle weight of 165 (here I was at the 3 months mark on 2 Jun of that year at 175lbs), AND employed it to also gain back up to the weight of 185. It was simply a matter of really leaning into the feasting portion when it came time to feast. At this point, I was fully embracing the carnivore approach to eating, as my guts felt incredible in the absence of all of the keto junk and the plant foods. A return to just meat and eggs had gone a long way, and when it came time to gain, I’d up my intake of animal fats and start allowing in some dairy in the form of cheeses, grassfed sour cream and ghee.

• I made use of various programs along the way, to include spending 2 weeks pretending that I was a Viking, Dan John’s Mass Made Simple, which I blended with his “Easy Strength” program as well, 9 weeks following my own Chaos is the Plan protocol for 9 weeks while pretending I was a Cimmerian, Jamie Lewis’ Juggeryoke, Dante Trudel’s DoggCrapp, and various other distractions along the way.

• I also competed in a strongman competition while my weight was completely free falling, which went poorly and a grappling competition which I won despite having not actually grappled in 18 years…so that was cool. Oh yeah, I also did a 10 mile race with no training, which was another not smart thing I did.

• I also went on a few cruises throughout the duration of my weight loss and weight gain, 2 of which I made it a personal mission to gorge myself in as much carnivore food as possible, the most recent one (over my kid’s spring break) resulting in me consuming 102 eggs and 54 steaks in 7 days, alongside multiple triple entrée dinners and other delicious foods. I do firmly believe those cruises were pretty effective for my goal of gaining, as 1 week of full scale feasting and minimal training really had me in an anabolic way.

LESSONS LEARNED

• Fat Loss is a vacation. I’ve said that multiple times. Gaining is the HARD part: fat loss is the BREAK was get FROM gaining. To get at that initial 201lbs, I effectively broke myself from the training and the eating. I had to get healthy before I could gain again. And in the process of getting healthy, I got STUPIDLY lean. And it was incredibly easy. I never struggled with hunger, low energy, etc: I just kept eating and training and letting the weight fall off of me. I was also able to basically train anyway I wanted to during those phases (which is why I did that Viking/Cimmerian stuff), because the only real function of resistance training while losing fat is to maintain muscle, and it requires FAR less effort to maintain muscle than to build it. This is why folks should NOT worry about “overbulking”: it just means you get to spend even MORE time relaxing from the VERY hard effort you put into gaining.

• On the above, starting out from such a lean state gave me a TON of runway as far as gaining goes. THIS is the secret to “lean gaining”. It’s not about operating on the tiniest of caloric surplus margins to ensure you gain only muscle and no fat: it’s about starting off in such a physically primed state to grow that, even when you DO put on fat, you go from “peeled to lean”, rather than “from tubby to obese”. Dan John wrote about this in “Mass Made Simple”, and experiencing it first hand was pretty eye opening. Which, once again, is WHY we have phases of gaining and losing, rather than just always trying to be in a state of gaining by trying to cheat the system with tiny calorie surpluses. And on that note…

• Everything operates in cycles. There is the bulking and gaining cycle, but even then that can be truncated into the Famine and Feast cycles I was employing (2 weeks Famine, 4 weeks Feast was standard for me). And even then, throughout the week itself, I’d cycle my nutrition: having some days that were pure Protein Sparing Modified Fasting, some that had midday meals and end of day meals, some that were just one meal a day, some that were 3 meals, etc. Trying to keep things controlled and uniform all the time just promotes stagnation: things need to be kept fresh and a little chaotic. And my training was the same way: you see the various programs I ran over this time, rather than just sticking with one way indefinitely. There was a time and a place for all of these programs, and some were there when I was ready to really push the petal to the metal, and others were there when I needed to back off a bit and prioritize something else.

• When my weight was dropping, I changed up how I DID my exercises. At my heaviest, I used a low bar squat technique, which was something I’d been using since the very first day I squatted. While my bodyweight was falling, I knew I wouldn’t be able to match my previous performance on it, and rather than let that get in my head, I completely changed how I squat, using a high bar, very close stance, and hitting as full of a depth as I possibly could. I specifically used Mass Made Simple to break in this style, since Dan has you start off squatting 95lbs, and this gave me an opportunity to effectively relearn the movement from scratch and not concern myself with how much I was moving. I also started squatting beltless for the first time…ever, and removed the belt from the majority of my training as well for similar reasons: it gave me a whole new paradigm to operate off of. And now I’ve been using that in my gaining phase, and in doing so I’m bringing up weaknesses that were holding me back previously and growing/emphasizing new muscles. My quads are responding well from all the deep squatting.

• I didn’t “need’ NEARLY as much food as I thought I did. This was a boon as a gainer. When I dropped all of the weight, I was eating until satiety, and since I had radically shifted my diet so much, I reached satiety much sooner than I previously did. This meant consuming far fewer calories than I ever did before…yet I felt and performed fine in training. I wasn’t dragging, I wasn’t in a zombie state, I wasn’t starving, and I was looking pretty awesome along the way. And when it came time to gain, I didn’t need to be NEARLY as aggressive as I was in previous endeavors: I could eat slightly beyond satiety or add in some more calorically dense foods and be more than squared away.

CONCLUSION

• This was definitely a lot to read, but I’m hoping it was helpful to those who made it through.

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As always, this is an awesome write-up, especially after we discussed these diet topics in your log the other day…

Your transformation from 201 to 165 is insane. I would never look at you at 201 and expect you even had that much fat to lose; let alone still look absolutely jacked at 165. I think this hearkens back to what I’ve heard Mark Bell and others talk about: basically everyone has more fat on them than they think.

I love the idea of getting lean first and then working to put on mass. I think a lot of folks, myself included, have a bit too much fat on our bodies to even worry about getting more jacked. It’s hard to see what muscle is on your body until you’re lean. Anecdotally, I was 205 and thought I would look way more ripped at 195. Nope, I have a lot more fat to lose in reality.

A few questions…(if this isn’t the place let me know and I can delete and ask you privately):

  1. Do you think calorie counting is pointless or simply don’t do it yourself? I’ve had success with it in the past but have also had success doing things more intuitively, which seems to be your style. I’ve toyed with ideas like going high calories on squat/deadlift days and cutting level calories on other days and seeing how different things have worked for you I’d love to hear your opinion.
  2. What program that you ran do you think best suited fat loss goals for you?
  3. You said you had to make adjustments based on strength loss when you were near lows, which obviously makes sense with that drastic of a loss. That said, how has your overall strength rebounded now that you’re between your low and your high?

Thanks again for this write up and usual candor. Your posts and blogs are a large motivator of what has gotten me into much better shape over the past 12 months and to continue into the future.

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Really appreciate you swinging by dude!

Thanks so much for saying that, but I do like to point out that I WAS really damn skinny at that point. Here’s a NON anabolic photo, haha

But I also don’t feel it was ALL fat: I had a LOT of inflammation to lose due to the way I was eating before. But @LoRez also had a great observation that there’s a fair chance I was losing intermuscular fat/marbling during that time as well, which can lend to it.

But that Mark Bell quote is spot on. We equate weight with fat, when weight honestly doesn’t capture the story at all. “Take your weight loss goals and double them” is a phrase I hear often, because that initial 5lbs of loss IS going to be non-fat weight: water, glycogen, food mass in the guts, etc.

I think it’s tedious, and I find that calories really don’t tell the fully story. I’m not going to say it’s pointless, because MANY people are able to be VERY successful with counting of calories, but I know for my personality type it’s a no-go.

Your caloric cycling idea would pair well with a CARB cycling idea (if you are a carb user). Justin Harris has spoken on this topic frequently, and there’s lots of good resources here as well

Otherwise, for myself, I sort of end up doing that with my nutrition. My biggest intake days are actually on weekends, when I tend to do my least training, but during weekdays, my protein sparring modified fasting heavy days are on my walking and events days, whereas the days I have a midday meal are on the days I lift.

As for what program best suited fat loss: “Chaos is the Plan”, no question, followed by my Viking inspired 2 weeks of improv. The big takeaway there was that I wasn’t focused on progressing at all: I was focused on the method instead. I just wanted my training to tell a story and to get in my 180 minutes of overhead work in the week. All I needed to do was maintain muscle at that point. If I tried taking on something like Deep Water or Mass Made Simple, I would have crashed.

Regarding strength: it’s been absolutely surging once I got my body in a state where it was ready to grow again. I’m seeing PRs every training session, with DoggCrapp in particular really shinning through.

Thanks for the questions! Happy to answer any more you may have.

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Always like reading your write up mate. Been so good watching you heal up through this process and have such a positive relationship with food. I know you have talked a bit about trying to still appear “normal” (not your words) through this process and still have family meals etc. How well do you think your approach fits into the everyday persons work and life ? Any top tips for someone thinking about this but also thinking it seems a bit hard ? (asking for a friend LOL)

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Been awesome having you in my corner along the way dude.

No question: I have an amazing spouse who has been incredibly supportive through this whole process. If one is absent of that, I imagine this would be incredibly tough. That said, I honestly find this to be a pretty simple lifestyle to live among others. Meat, eggs and dairy are available just about anywhere, so as far as social gatherings go, it’s pretty easy to find some way to get meat to eat. @TrainForPain and @littlesleeper have both recently undergone their own adventures in carnivore with similar stories to tell.

As for family living, just a touch of compromise. For us, meat/protein always tends to make up the main dish for dinner (burgers, steaks, chops, roasts, meatloaf, egg dishes, chicken/turkey, etc). From there, I’ll make sides for my carb eaters (rice, breads, pasta, potatoes, etc) and typically my wife will make me some sort of egg side dish (she swears I always burn eggs when I cook them and can’t stand the smell, so she said she’ll always cook me eggs so she doesn’t have to smell them). Pork rinds make a great quick side as well, as does cheese/cottage cheese.

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Are you eating the carbs or is this for the rest of the family ?

You know the answer to that, haha.

Once a week, I’ll do a meal where I eat carbs. My wife will make something like a casserole or pasta and some sort of dessert. It turns it into a cyclical ketogenic diet essentially. I find I respond well to quality carbs, but junk food will tear me up.

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I never like to assume :wink:

They don’t make animals out of carbs.

Well, I mean, they do, but they’re not carnivore

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I’m not going to derail this fantastic write up, but I will say that carnivore eating is remarkably easy in the world. If I order steak and eggs for breakfast, everyone just thinks I’m awesome.

I left a little bit of a “what I noticed” write up in @T3hPwnisher’s log, but I took a lot from the experiment(s).

@T3hPwnisher anither fantastic post. Having taken some things from you throughout this journey, this was great to read. I find I do actually have some differences in personal preferences on the margins (I like a little bit of carbs, and I hate the fat loss phase more than the gain), but I think the exceptions actually prove the rules: have goals and phases, eat nutrient-dense foods accordingly, find patterns that fit for you, etc.

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Haha this is such a great sentence to be able to write. Well done!

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Thanks for the write-up! I certainly admire your dedication to an approach. I think your ability to articulate a strategy is an important aspect to your success, as this means you can not only inspire others but constantly motivate and remind yourself of the goals and rules.

Unsurprisingly, we differ and align on certain aspects of our training and nutrition. To focus on the similarities:

  • we both are drawn to “real food” and typically avoid amalgamations of packeged food stuffs (we don’t eat exactly the same foods, but nevertheless…)
  • we don’t count calories or closely track macros
  • our overall training is actually somewhat similar in terms of consistency, effort, and even approach. Mine is no a doubt toned down version, but I’m also older and almost anyone’s training is toned down compared to yours.

I’d say a major difference is that I tend to avoid weight gains/losses. This is largely by design in that I do better just locking into a groove and remaining there, and also I don’t have any goals related to that approach (plus I’m afraid I’ll gain weight and never lose it!).

Nice job!

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@TrainForPain your contributions never derail: thanks so much for swinging by! And those personal preferences are what keep us all interesting. I’ve heard that discussed before too: newbs always think that the 10% of training/nutrition drives 90% of the results because that’s ALL the big and strong dudes talk about, but it’s more because those dudes already all agree on the stuff that drives the 90%, so there’s no reason to really discuss it. So when we DO get together to talk shop, we’ll talk high carb vs low carb, 6 meals vs 3, etc, because that’s the nuance that keeps us interesting, but agreeing with each other on the basics is boring, haha.

@mechinos Thanks bro! The best part was my kid’s tally of my experience

@antiquity Thanks so much for reading dude! Your words mean a lot to me. I’ll say that I don’t ever intentionally go out of my way to gain weight: I have phases of my training where the goal is to boost my strength, and in pursuing that goal, my weight goes up as a result of the hard training and the eating necessary to recover from it. I put on weight with Super Squats, Mass Made Simple, DoggCrapp and Deep Water, but never was it “I’m going to follow these programs so I get bigger”, it’s “I need to get bigger if I’m going to make it through these programs!” Haha. The leaning out does tend to happen intentionally, but again: it’s a BREAK from the hard training and eating. I’ll naturally just let the intensity subside and enjoy the time to recover and heal.

You’d have no problem losing weight. It’s SO easy compared to the training you put yourself through.

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Oh man that’s even better

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Well done, as always.

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Major props whenever they come from you dude. You are an OG that inspired me so much when I first joined

Fantastic write-up, thanks for taking the time to put it out there. It’s been so educational seeing you document turning your gastrointestinal health around. Your transformations have been wildly impressive but it seems like you found a very good medium at that weight.

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@PowPowPunishment Hey thanks so much dude! You’ve been there since practically the beginning, knowing full well my “Body by Taco Bell” phases and all the inbetweens. Amazing the lessons we learn along the way.

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There must be a book in their somewhere along the “personal experiment” lines of A.J Jacobs. Congratulations, and much to… digest in your interesting account. Steak, salad and eggs! (Yes, I’d eat them in a boat. Sure I would ‘cuz I’m the G.O.A.T.!)

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Much appreciated dude! I DO have another e-book in the works that will actually feature a bit of this in it, and I might even just include this write up in it as well as a testament.

Steak, salad and eggs!

So close! Haha.

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