Since i started mid-week spikes, weekdays make no difference to me regarding to heavier or lighter lifting. I lift the same on Fridays as on Mondays.
I also have better control on my caloric intake when cutting because the load on weekends lasts only one day so it’s harder to overeat.
On the other hand, while bulking there are occasions when i want to bury myself into food to the max on the weekend carb-ups. That’s when i ditch the spike and go 36 hours pigging out.
[quote]Ren wrote:
So I just started it today, a little unprepared due to the holiday weekend screwing over my normal food prep time on sunday. So I am kinda winging it this week, and adjusting daily as I get a feel for what I am eating and go over my food log.
Food log is here:
http://fitday.com/WebFit/PublicJournals.html?Owner=LordRen
and just so I got everything right, break in phase is bw x 16 for cals? at 60% fat, 35% protein, 5% carbs?
At 195 lbs I am going for 3200 kcals, w/ 215g fat, 280g protein, and 40g carbs.
Also, and I will run back thru this thread tomorrow, what should my daily goal for fiber be to keep things running smoothly?[/quote]
In the time that I’ve been on it I’ve found that 20-25g of fiber a day keeps me running smoothly.
[quote]K-Narf wrote:
Ren wrote:
So I just started it today, a little unprepared due to the holiday weekend screwing over my normal food prep time on sunday. So I am kinda winging it this week, and adjusting daily as I get a feel for what I am eating and go over my food log.
Food log is here:
http://fitday.com/WebFit/PublicJournals.html?Owner=LordRen
and just so I got everything right, break in phase is bw x 16 for cals? at 60% fat, 35% protein, 5% carbs?
At 195 lbs I am going for 3200 kcals, w/ 215g fat, 280g protein, and 40g carbs.
Also, and I will run back thru this thread tomorrow, what should my daily goal for fiber be to keep things running smoothly?
In the time that I’ve been on it I’ve found that 20-25g of fiber a day keeps me running smoothly.[/quote]
cool, got 15g in yesterday, taking some flax seed today and I will be adding some veggies too.
Logging in with an update:
Started AD: March 2nd
Currently down 9 lbs and strength levels are through the roof (as much as +50% on some lifts)
Anabolic Diet = Jesus
[quote]g.anagno wrote:
egcabanissiii wrote:
Just finishing a grilled burger with bacon, jack cheese, mayo & mustard. No bun of course.
That makes four burgers today, 8 eggs, 4 tbsp of olive oil, some fish oil, flaxseed oil, and protein shakes. I may need a few more pieces of bacon.
I swear it is nature’s perfect food.
I might be wrong because i don’t know the exact quantities, but it seems that your saturated fat intake is too high compared to the other two kind of fats.
Given that you have mentioned a small issue about high LDL before in the thread, one could say that you’re walking on the edge…[/quote]
Yea I have to agree here. You could clean that up quite a bit. I’m not anti-sat fat, I think it should be about 1/3 of total fat intake, but too much can be bad.
Mayo is expendible…use more olive oil. Bacon, to me, is a once a week thing. Concentrate more on the fish and flax oils and of course, the fiber.
Just keep in mind that there shoudl be a balance…red meat is great,…but so is salmon, tuna, turkey and chicken. Mix it up.
Dave Barr brings up some great points in his article about meal frequency. It’s rather hard to eat every 3 hours on the AD…if done right, at most of your meals you are getting a good amount of fat, protein and fiber. Personally, after a breakfast of olive oil, eggs, feta and spinach, I am def. not hungry in 3hrs…usually have my next meal about 4hrs later.
That meal is similar, meat or fish, fiber, olive oil…I might eat 3 1/2 hrs after that…then lift an hour and a half later, then PWO shake. 2 hrs later I have a solid meal and that’s usually it for me. Sometimes if it’s late I’ll just have a big shake with some NPB instead of a solid meal.
If I try to force 6 meals on myself, I feel too full and slowed down.
I agree with your comments. Thanks, guys. I am eating the omega-3 eggs, which I guess are a bit better. I’ve been hitting the chicken pretty hard too. I plan on having some fish tomorrow. I seem to have a tough time cooking more than one meat per day, which I guess sucks, but if you look at the week in total, I should be ok.
I’ve been dropping some nice fat weight while gaining strength and some size, according to the mirror. I’m working through CW’s SOB workout now. For GPP I am using a 30 minute boxing routine focusing on rope, heavy bag and speed bag.
Also, walking nearly every evening pushing a 70 pound stroller up some hills – that’s brutal. Did three miles last night in the 90 degree heat.
After six weeks in, I’ll be having another blood test to check the fat goo in the blood.
[quote]IL Cazzo wrote:
g.anagno wrote:
egcabanissiii wrote:
Just finishing a grilled burger with bacon, jack cheese, mayo & mustard. No bun of course.
That makes four burgers today, 8 eggs, 4 tbsp of olive oil, some fish oil, flaxseed oil, and protein shakes. I may need a few more pieces of bacon.
I swear it is nature’s perfect food.
I might be wrong because i don’t know the exact quantities, but it seems that your saturated fat intake is too high compared to the other two kind of fats.
Given that you have mentioned a small issue about high LDL before in the thread, one could say that you’re walking on the edge…
Yea I have to agree here. You could clean that up quite a bit. I’m not anti-sat fat, I think it should be about 1/3 of total fat intake, but too much can be bad.
Mayo is expendible…use more olive oil. Bacon, to me, is a once a week thing. Concentrate more on the fish and flax oils and of course, the fiber.
Just keep in mind that there shoudl be a balance…red meat is great,…but so is salmon, tuna, turkey and chicken. Mix it up.
[/quote]
I’ve been toying around the other avenues of the low carb world for a while, I went on the NHE for a bit and am currently doing T-dawg 2.0. The NHE was pretty much the same as the AD as far as total carbs, however, on T-Dawg I’m looking at 100 grams a day. If I decide to take the plunge back do you think I’d have to do the 12 day induction phase again or could I do the 5 day, then carb up?
[quote]speedy5323 wrote:
I’ve been toying around the other avenues of the low carb world for a while, I went on the NHE for a bit and am currently doing T-dawg 2.0. The NHE was pretty much the same as the AD as far as total carbs, however, on T-Dawg I’m looking at 100 grams a day. If I decide to take the plunge back do you think I’d have to do the 12 day induction phase again or could I do the 5 day, then carb up?
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Unless you decided to take up low carb dieting as a new hobby, i suggest that you should consider setting some clearly defined priorities. That way you’ll be able to choose a tactic that brings you faster and safer to your goals and stop wasting your time dealing with (in a significant degree) different approaches.
I don’t underestimate the benefits of experimentation but you should keep in mind that there is a thin line between experimentation and disorientation.
IMO T-Dawg is not low carb for a fat-burner. It might be so for a carb burner but for us adapted to fat is just a mild transition back to carb-burning.
From this point of view you can’t put it in the same group as AD and NHE. That’s the reason for my first comment, which if by the way came out harsh, it didn’t meant to be so.
The T-Dawg diet tries to give you “just enough” carbs to keep you fueled post-workout. The AD is based around getting the body “fat adapted.” Both dietary strategies will work, but you’re coming at the problem from two different angles.
Traditionally, the AD has been seen as more iconoclastic because it does rub hard against the grain (no pun intended :)) of nutritional thought.
I was concise to the point in my original post where it seemed as though I was classifying T-Dawg as a “fat for fuel” diet such as the NHE and the AD. I fully understand the differences. I also understand this is not something you try for a day or two.
I was on it for about 6 months and fared farely well, except for the fact that I needed to pay better attention to total calories and such. These last few months have been fairly turbulent in my life, and whether I like to admit to it or not, I have become somewhat of a yo-yo dieter. Anyway, I’m gonna give this a shot again now that things seemed to have settled down somewhat in my life. I continue to be impressed by the knowledgeable indivdiduals in this thread.
Today I got my bloodresults after being on the diet for 8 weeks.
Not good, my doctor is very upset.
cholesterol: 252
LDL : 172
triglycerides: 34
HDL : 73
I really don’t know what to think. The tri’s and HDL seem to be really good but the bad stuff is really bad.
I’m a bit discouraged since I really like this diet and want to stick to it. But I can’t ignore those results either!
I take about 10-12 fishoil a day plus olive oil and flax. I have to admit I ate a lot of red meat (daily) So that’s the first thing to go.
I’m a bit confused now, just got the results, any input is appreciated.
thanks
2000 posts for a great thread.
[quote]knuffel wrote:
Today I got my bloodresults after being on the diet for 8 weeks.
Not good, my doctor is very upset.
cholesterol: 252
LDL : 172
triglycerides: 34
HDL : 73
I really don’t know what to think. The tri’s and HDL seem to be really good but the bad stuff is really bad.
I’m a bit discouraged since I really like this diet and want to stick to it. But I can’t ignore those results either!
I take about 10-12 fishoil a day plus olive oil and flax. I have to admit I ate a lot of red meat (daily) So that’s the first thing to go.
I’m a bit confused now, just got the results, any input is appreciated.
thanks[/quote]
8 weeks is pretty short time. What was your diet before this? How long after your last carb up was you test?
Honestly, the diet isnt for everyone. Get some opinions on here and see what you wanna do.
What role would the carb up play in the blood work? I can understand its impact om blood sugar, but not necessarily on cholesterol.
[quote]IL Cazzo wrote:
knuffel wrote:
Today I got my bloodresults after being on the diet for 8 weeks.
Not good, my doctor is very upset.
cholesterol: 252
LDL : 172
triglycerides: 34
HDL : 73
I really don’t know what to think. The tri’s and HDL seem to be really good but the bad stuff is really bad.
I’m a bit discouraged since I really like this diet and want to stick to it. But I can’t ignore those results either!
I take about 10-12 fishoil a day plus olive oil and flax. I have to admit I ate a lot of red meat (daily) So that’s the first thing to go.
I’m a bit confused now, just got the results, any input is appreciated.
thanks
8 weeks is pretty short time. What was your diet before this? How long after your last carb up was you test?
Honestly, the diet isnt for everyone. Get some opinions on here and see what you wanna do.
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knuffel,
DH
Good to hear from you DH.
In the gym today, one of the trainers made a comment that I looked noticeably cut and stronger (from watching my workout). I think the AD is for me – thanks for you posts throughout this thread.
I’m wearing pants at 250lbs that once fit at 225lbs. That’s just gotta be a good thing.
[quote]Disc Hoss wrote:
knuffel,
DH
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[quote]Disc Hoss wrote:
knuffel,
DH
[/quote]
thanks for your input,
I do eat about 10/12 fishoil capsules a day plus flax and olive oil. I have 24 hrs carbload already. But the red meat that’s where I can definetely improve. I’m gonna cut back on that. Also I thought of upping the fibre.
I decided to stick with the diet.
so what do you think about eggs?? I eat 3 a day, one of them omega 3 egg.
What do you think will be the best time to test again? Weeks or months?
thanks
[quote]8 weeks is pretty short time. What was your diet before this? How long after your last carb up was you test?
Honestly, the diet isnt for everyone. Get some opinions on here and see what you wanna do.
[/quote]
My diet before this was more or less by John Berardi’s habits. My test was on wednesday, my carbup is on saturday.
What difference can that make??