My Experience On the Anabolic Diet

Does anybody know what the physiological basis is for the extreme lethargy I experience on the carb-ups? I swear, I want to spend half the day in bed.

The contrast with how energetic I am when I’m eating mostly fats is remarkable.

I’m guessing that being a fat-burner and not having much fat in my system is the cause, and that my body is now inefficient in converting these carbs I am eating into energy. Is that on the right track?

[quote]garethhe wrote:
Does anybody know what the physiological basis is for the extreme lethargy I experience on the carb-ups? I swear, I want to spend half the day in bed.

The contrast with how energetic I am when I’m eating mostly fats is remarkable.

I’m guessing that being a fat-burner and not having much fat in my system is the cause, and that my body is now inefficient in converting these carbs I am eating into energy. Is that on the right track?[/quote]

I would venture to guess that the carbs lead to higher levels of serotonin in your brain, which could put you in a better mood but also make you sleepy.

Probably a silly question…but a few of you have talked about protein + heavy whipping cream shakes…how does this work exactly? Do you whip the cream first? Or pour it right in with the Whey? I bought a small carton of heavy whipping cream but its probably only 2 cups total of heavy cream…thats enough for like…1 shake? Do you add anything else?

[quote]AceDeuce wrote:
Probably a silly question…but a few of you have talked about protein + heavy whipping cream shakes…how does this work exactly? Do you whip the cream first? Or pour it right in with the Whey? I bought a small carton of heavy whipping cream but its probably only 2 cups total of heavy cream…thats enough for like…1 shake? Do you add anything else?[/quote]

Noooo. You only need a tbs or two. You mix the protein in water and add some cream. Man, 2cups of cream? I almost throw up talkin about that.

You don’t have to whip it either…you can just pour it in it’s liquid form. Whipping cream is just the name…sometimes called “heavy cream.”

Ahh, thanks for the clarification. That would have been a rude awakening had I drank a cups worth of that cream lol.

Another question that came in my mind which I know has been covered in this thread before…What IDEALLY should be taken during/post workout? I read this entire thread but I dont remember exactly what was recommended. Searching through 65+ pages is very tedious. Gracias!

I dont plan on buying more supplements…but if I understand “exersol” correctly, its basically Whey protein isolate,glutamine and BCAA’s during workout followed by plenty of BCAA’s (and maybe some more Whey isolate) post workout and a solid meal 1 hour after that. Does this sound like a good peri-workout nutrition plan AD vets?

Another small nitpicking question: If I cook eggs/hamburgers/bacon etc in about 1/2 tbsp of olive oil, do I count that olive oil? Am I actually eating that full 1/2 tbsp that im cooking the food in?

I’m seriously almost done with the silly questions…seriously… :slight_smile:

edit How many grams of fiber are recommended in a day? I’m on day 2 and I got about 12-15g’s of fiber? Is this too little?

Inviduals following Anabolic Diet may find my recent scientific paper of some interest:

Best regards,
Anssi Manninen
Senior Science Editor
Muscular Development

[quote]AnssiM wrote:
Inviduals following Anabolic Diet may find my recent scientific paper of some interest:

Best regards,
Anssi Manninen
Senior Science Editor
Muscular Development[/quote]

Good stuff, thanks.

Interesting read.

[quote]AnssiM wrote:
Inviduals following Anabolic Diet may find my recent scientific paper of some interest:

Best regards,
Anssi Manninen
Senior Science Editor
Muscular Development[/quote]

Thanks for stopping in! Definately an interresting read.

But, the use of ketone bodies for fuel was mentioned, which, correct me if I’m wrong, on the AD, ketones are not being used. Fatty acids themselves are, which is why, once into the AD, ketones are not detected.

Is this right? DH, Cazzo, anybody wanna chime in on this?

[quote]IL Cazzo wrote:
AceDeuce wrote:
Probably a silly question…but a few of you have talked about protein + heavy whipping cream shakes…how does this work exactly? Do you whip the cream first? Or pour it right in with the Whey? I bought a small carton of heavy whipping cream but its probably only 2 cups total of heavy cream…thats enough for like…1 shake? Do you add anything else?

Noooo. You only need a tbs or two. You mix the protein in water and add some cream. Man, 2cups of cream? I almost throw up talkin about that.

You don’t have to whip it either…you can just pour it in it’s liquid form. Whipping cream is just the name…sometimes called “heavy cream.”
[/quote]

Oops!!! I love cream. I mix 8oz with a scoop of protein powder post workout. It’s like an instant energy boost.

I read up until page 25 for now and will read the rest of the thread but I’d like to ask some questions :slight_smile:

Have any women on here done this diet and if so how did they fare?

I’d want to use this for a precontest diet, I have 16 weeks until my show on May27th, is this ideal? I’m sitting at 5’3.5", 112lbs and about 13-14%Bodyfat and want to end up at 9% body fat max.

Does calorie intake differ at all on non-training days?

Is a Greens Powder recommended and if not why?

What should I eat pre and post W/O, I train at 7am just after getting up.

Thanks, I just bought the e-book, I’ll be back with more questions I’m sure :wink:

BGB

Here’s an important Question:

So you start at 18 X bodyweight in lbs for calories so for me 112 x 18 = 2016 cals/day

But when it comes to cutting it says the 1st week to cut 1000cals and then 500 the next. That would put me at 516cals/day, not realistic.

What would you suggest for my case then?

Thanks
BGB

I would say start the diet for 2 weeks at 18xbw, then cut calories by 300cals/week from there.

CLA is perfectly fine. I’m just not convinced that it produces anywhere near what it’s touted to. Another HMB in my opinion. It has studies to give it some credibility, but I’ve yet to see a real world effect, especially one that is worth the $.

DH

[quote]speedy5323 wrote:
Regardign CLA while on the diet, is it alright to take? I know that it has been said to stay away from MCT’s but I’m still not sure about CLA. I posted this a few months back and got a non-definite reply, so wanted to ask again to see if I could get a consensus on the mattter. [/quote]

Yup. Once adapted, FFAA’s are your bread and butter. The loads also gorge the muscle and the liver with CHO which is, to some degree, metered out as can be used for any glucose you might need for things such as anaerobic activity that can only be fueled by glucose.

DH

[quote]NewDamage wrote:
Thanks for stopping in! Definately an interresting read.

But, the use of ketone bodies for fuel was mentioned, which, correct me if I’m wrong, on the AD, ketones are not being used. Fatty acids themselves are, which is why, once into the AD, ketones are not detected.

Is this right? DH, Cazzo, anybody wanna chime in on this?[/quote]

Brother, I’d suggest you run from any concept of “cutting” right now! You are in no position to worry about polishing when you need a foundation. Build a building, then wash the windows and hang a sign.

You need to stick with at least 2000 cals and follow the AD strictly. After 6 weeks, see what you are looking like on muscle and body fat. From here, you’ll likely want to begin adding 200 cals to your daily total (2200) for another 2 weeks and then re-evaluate. This moderate stair step approach will tell you just what it takes for you to gain, and what might be a bit too “ambitious” as far as caloric intake.

DH

Also, if I recall, the cutting section is after the massing section. Doc assumes this order and is implying that a large reduction can be undertaken from a mass cycle caloric surplus. I don’t believe he had such a sharp drop in mind from the maintenance/start-up amount.

[quote]BGB wrote:
Here’s an important Question:

So you start at 18 X bodyweight in lbs for calories so for me 112 x 18 = 2016 cals/day

But when it comes to cutting it says the 1st week to cut 1000cals and then 500 the next. That would put me at 516cals/day, not realistic.

What would you suggest for my case then?

Thanks
BGB[/quote]

I think the poster was a female DH, thats the reason for such a low bodyweight. If not then yeah, eat more.

What an excellent contribution. Thanks, Anssi!

Very glad to have someone as knowledgeable as yourself posting. Please continue to do so.

DH

[quote]AnssiM wrote:
Inviduals following Anabolic Diet may find my recent scientific paper of some interest:

Best regards,
Anssi Manninen
Senior Science Editor
Muscular Development[/quote]