What’s a typical day for you, W and CA?
Today I ated.
2500~ cals 63/4/34
Tomorrow is carbup.
Oh, and, my energy skyrocketed once I dropped the protein to 1.5 per lb - glucogenesis really hammered me.
[quote]bricked. wrote:
What’s a typical day for you, W and CA?
Today I ated.
2500~ cals 63/4/34
Tomorrow is carbup.
Oh, and, my energy skyrocketed once I dropped the protein to 1.5 per lb - glucogenesis really hammered me.[/quote]
Good to hear!
A typical day I’ll chow down something like:
150 g total of oils.This includes seal,flax,olive and fish oil.
200 g red meat
200 g salmon
2 eggs
100 g mixed nuts
15 g butter
150 g chicken thigh
30 g whey
150 g tuna
40 g cheese
Some days I’ll have 10 eggs,some days none.Some days I’ll have three meals consisting of red meat,some days none.
In addition to this I have alot of broccoli,cauliflower,spinach and the occational carrot.I sprinkle ground flax seeds in shakes and on salads to increase fiber.
Carb-up tomorrow.Weight was 85,7 kg this morning,same as the week before.I began at 83 kgs so I have gained around 2.5 kgs so far.Gonna keep it at 3600 kcal and focus on quality carb-ups for the next two weeks and re-evaluate.
[quote]bricked. wrote:
What’s a typical day for you, W and CA?
Today I ated.
2500~ cals 63/4/34
Tomorrow is carbup.
Oh, and, my energy skyrocketed once I dropped the protein to 1.5 per lb - glucogenesis really hammered me.[/quote]
Generally on a typical day, I’ll eat:
-between 1/2 and 1 dozen Omega 3 eggs
-a side of bacon
-20 fish oil tablets
-a bag each of spinach, broccoli, lettuce, and cauliflower, with radishes and mushrooms liberally added.
-between 1/2 and 1lb of assorted cheese
-2.5 to 3lbs red meat
-maybe 1/2 to 1C of olive oil
-1/2 to 1C of nuts
That’s about it on normal days, (I’m trying to gain weight, can you tell?).
Haha, I just finished my first bowl of oats for carbup - yummy! Yeah, I’m going the ‘fuck abs’ route aswell 
I wanna see if its possible to get big with a CKD. The Doc and the vets think it is, so that’s good enough for me
[quote]bricked. wrote:
Haha, I just finished my first bowl of oats for carbup - yummy! Yeah, I’m going the ‘fuck abs’ route aswell I wanna see if its possible to get big with a CKD. The Doc and the vets think it is, so that’s good enough for me :)[/quote]
Yeah, ha ha. It seems to be working better for me now that I am in a hypercaloric state (i.e. I seem to be gaining mostly all muscle). I wanna hit my goal of a fairly lean (10-15% BF) 185-190 by the end of the winter, so I think everything will work out just fine.
Oh, and I missed it during my reply, but while it may not be possible to gain weight on a CKD it is possible to gain weight on the AD.
See how I switched it up there cause the AD isn’t a CKD? 
We had a rather lengthy discussion about this a few months back, I can’t remember when. More of a terminology thing than anything else, but still. I wanna distance myself from the Atkins guys as far as I can knowhatimean?
-CA
Yeah, I do… i think Recently I’ve been aiming to hit between 20-30g of Carb a day (usually the upper limit) instead of avoiding carbs like the plague. I starting to understand that this isn’t a keto-esque diet, but really one that completly modifies your body’s metabolic machine. Sweet.
This is just a bump/reminder to myself to post a training picture in the morning. I’m starting to lose a little focus in my training and diet and having my rotunditude on display for all the T-Nation to see will help bring me back to center. It’s like DJ says, the more focused life, the more chaotic training, and vice versa. The more time I spent in school tending to my responsibilities, the more haphazard my training has been. Gotta tighten up the reins a little bit…
Anyway, hold me to it T-neighbors of AD street…
-Conor
And the lord proclaimed 'Let thy deadlift be mighty, fueled by the power of 1000 eggs and cheese." …
Don’t fret brother, I took this whole week of from aneraboic training as to recover/refocus towards further brutal training.
I was actually going to post this because I misread lipogenesis as lipolysis and was confused by the authors conclusion. It makes much more sense when read correctly.
Consuming Fructose-sweetened Beverages Increases Body Adiposity in Mice
Hella J?rgens*, Wiltrud Haass*, Tamara R. Casta?eda, Annette Sch?rmann, Corinna Koebnick, Frank Dombrowski, B?rbel Otto?, Andrea R. Nawrocki**, Philipp E. Scherer**, Jochen Spranger, Michael Ristow, Hans-Georg Joost, Peter J. Havel and Matthias H. Tsch?p,
Address correspondence to Hella S. J?rgens, Department of Pharmacology, German Institute of Human Nutrition, Potsdam-Rehbruecke, Arthur-Scheunert-Allee 114?116, 14558 Nuthetal, Germany. E-mail: juergens@mail.dife.de
Objective: The marked increase in the prevalence of obesity in the United States has recently been attributed to the increased fructose consumption. To determine if and how fructose might promote obesity in an animal model, we measured body composition, energy intake, energy expenditure, substrate oxidation, and several endocrine parameters related to energy homeostasis in mice consuming fructose.
Research Methods and Procedures: We compared the effects of ad libitum access to fructose (15% solution in water), sucrose (10%, popular soft drink), and artificial sweetener (0% calories, popular diet soft drink) on adipogenesis and energy metabolism in mice.
Results: Exposure to fructose water increased adiposity, whereas increased fat mass after consumption of soft drinks or diet soft drinks did not reach statistical significance (n = 9 each group). Total intake of energy was unaltered, because mice proportionally reduced their caloric intake from chow. There was a trend toward reduced energy expenditure and increased respiratory quotient, albeit not significant, in the fructose group. Furthermore, fructose produced a hepatic lipid accumulation with a characteristic pericentral pattern.
Discussion: These data are compatible with the conclusion that a high intake of fructose selectively enhances adipogenesis, possibly through a shift of substrate use to lipogenesis.
Key Words: fructose ? soft drink ? energy balance ? energy expenditure ? rodent
This would tend to lend credence to the theory that lots of fructose during the load would tend to fill liver glycogen stores and let you run on that, enhancing fat deposition and encouraging sugar burning.
Now wether this means I would dissaude you from eating fruits entirely, I’m not so sure. I would definitely avoid the HFCS during the load and pretty much all the time forever.
-Conor
I heard it takes approx 50g of fructose to fill the liver at one time, and considering a medium apple has like 5g fructose (off the top of my head) you’d have to eat a few apples. I think that’s the problem with HFCS, as its so concentrated, your liver takes a hammering of fructose. I think…
Has anyone experimented with longer periods than 5 days eating high fat/low carb? What I mean is, instead of eating highfat/low carb Monday through Friday and carbing up on the weekend, maybe eating high fat Monday through Saturday, and carbing up Sunday and Monday, then high fat for Tuesday through Sunday, and carbing up on Monday and Tuesday. This approach would probably not be as convenient, being that the carb-up days were constantly changing, but I was wondering if anyone had any experiences, good or bad, with fat loss by slightli extending the high fat phase.
If your gonna go that route, why not just do 6 days of low carb, with the carbup for 24hrs on the Sabbath?
I am using this diet for a change in bodycomposition only taking in 30g carbs per day, my question is post workout can i have some dextrose on this diet, or will it mess the diet up.
[quote]gnew70 wrote:
I am using this diet for a change in bodycomposition only taking in 30g carbs per day, my question is post workout can i have some dextrose on this diet, or will it mess the diet up.[/quote]
Of course you can, within the daily allowance.Once adapted to fat burning you won’t need it,though.
I’d ditch the dextrose if I were you,it’s not neccesary and might even halt your progress by inhibitng GH by spiking insulin.
I apologize if this has been asked before… But does anyone have any suggestions as to what would make a high fat meal more easily digestible?? Lecithin has helped somewhat. Hunger is a real issue for me on this diet - I’d like to have 6 meals a day, but with the high fat content, I’m struggling to eat 4 times daily. I’m never truly hungry, I always feel full.
[quote]woolymammoth wrote:
I apologize if this has been asked before… But does anyone have any suggestions as to what would make a high fat meal more easily digestible?? Lecithin has helped somewhat. Hunger is a real issue for me on this diet - I’d like to have 6 meals a day, but with the high fat content, I’m struggling to eat 4 times daily. I’m never truly hungry, I always feel full. [/quote]
You could try staggering your calories over the week instead of trying to get in “X amount” each day; so if you were going for 3K per day you could go 2500 one day, 3500 the next, etc etc.
Or you could try making 3 of your meals liquid mixes of olive oil and protein, that works pretty good, doesn’t fill you up.
Or you could just suck it up and eat more, even though you don’t really feel like it.
-CA
[quote]bricked. wrote:
If your gonna go that route, why not just do 6 days of low carb, with the carbup for 24hrs on the Sabbath?[/quote]
That’s actually what I did this week, and for the next two weeks to see how it works. Just thinking of a different approach, and perhaps a way to do 36-48 hour carb up when bulking while keeping bodyfat in check. I just love how there are a myriad variations to make this way of eating fit your life. Modifications are easy, which is great with THANKSGIVING COMING UP.
I second the liquid meal approach. Some protein, olive oil and fish oil caps help you get in the calories easily. Just alternate between liquid and solid meals throughout the day.
How do you guys deal with the water retention after your carbups. I always feel down cuz I freak that I gained a ton of fat 