It’s the perfect snack on this diet. I make some this weekend and it tastes pretty good.
Here’s a write up…
Pemmican is a Native American word roughly translated as “travel food made for long trips.” A compact source of concentrated energy needing no preparation on the trail, Native American pemmican often included bear fat, berries and anything else that was nutritious and available. The energy bar traces its roots back to the Middle Ages. Crusaders tucked an energy bar, called the panforte (a mix of flour, honey, shortening, nuts and dried fruit), into their tunics to give them a lift during long marches.
Pemmican may be one of the world’s perfect foods. It is only pure protein, fat, and carbohydrate . . . n perfect ratio. It gives the body the densest nutritional value in a simple, hand-feeding manner. Its high energy ingredients keeps one from being hungry yet feeds the body everything it needs. It is very simple, easy to carry, easy to eat, and tastes incredible.
Meat Pemmican is a mixture of dried meat and suet which is eaten unheated, and which keeps for years under reasonable conditions. The first recorded use of pemmican was by North American tribes (particularly the Assiniboin of Dakota and the sub-arctic peoples), by whom it had been used for generations. It became more widely known in the 19th and early 20th centuries as a staple for polar explorers. Although it is unlikely that pemmican has been made for long enough to have impacted on nutritional aspects of human evolution, it happens that pemmican recreates what was probably a dietary staple for one, two or three million years.
Don’t worry Hoss, I posted that entirely for entertainment value. I’m completely stuck on the AD and wouldn’t do anything else.
[quote]Disc Hoss wrote:
CH,
This is (at best) specific to an unadapted individual. In addition, it is contrary to all the recent literature. Nobody with a modicum of a link to reality buys into low fat. Aceto works with roid users. I’ve stated before, this greatly increases you insulin sensitivity and metabolic processes. They are entirely different.
Vs. Aceto
Doc DiPas (expert and champion PL)
Charles Poliquin
Vince Gironda
Rheo Blair
Rob Faigin (NHE author)
Jay Robb
Will Brink
Dan John
Barry Sears
Dan Duchaine
and many others.
Rest assured, you are on the BEST thing going. Leave the rags on the shelf and buy a steak instead.
Best,
DH
conorh wrote:
Here’s a really good quote from the Sept '05 Flex, from Chris Aceto’s pp. 140 nutrition article:
“Fat-free or near fat-free precontest diets are extremely effective for removing bodyfat, because dietary fat, more so than carbs, is extremely efficient at making it’s way to bodyfat stores.”
[quote]Disc Hoss wrote:
Saturday I ate:
2 bowls of oatmeal
1 bowl of cereal
4 large bowls of pasta
1 large pizza (sorry Mrs. DH.)
3 Klondike bars
2 baked taters
Fried chicken and mashed taters
3 corn the cob
8 biscuits
32oz of Gatorade
2 Coke’s
2 large salads
2 bowls of mac & cheese
1 gallon of milk and a handful of oreos.
I felt awesome. My arms and shoulders were ready to pop. I love you, Doc DiPas.
DH
[/quote]
FOR THE LOVE!!! Did you spend your day on the toilet?
[quote]jerinevans wrote:
Disc Hoss wrote:
Anybody know why they should preferentially consume starches instead of sugars for the load? Beyond the obvious feeling of suckage that sugars cause. Too many at least… I still throw down on the goodies too.
Anyone interested?
Maybe I’ll start a tips/tricks aspect to this thread to give everybody the full understanding of the whys/hows so that we can mass produce disciples and then buy into the cattle market. Pay ourselves to get big!
DH
Bring it on, brotha’. You’ve got the credentials. Educate us, Your Hugeness!
[/quote]
Been following the thread for quite some time…DH, still planning to do this?
Thank goodness. Thought I’d lost one of the “fold” to the likes of Flex. Would have to go into hiding and shave my head or something. Wait for the sky to fall. I’ve talked with people for years and some seem to get it and then just do a 180 leaving me to pick my jaw up off of the floor.
My sister-in-law is one of them. She dropped 26lbs in about 6 weeks. Didn’t even exercise. Then she gets down to like 150 at 5’7". Looking good. Then she goes Jenny Craig and bloats up to like 225 or more. She won’t let me see the scale, so I’m being generous and polite. She just “knew” that the AD couldn’t be healthy. Uh yeah, but being at least 75lbs overweight is…
Things that make you stare in amazement. Talk about denying the obvious.
DH
Gave me a scare, there. ;-).
DH
[quote]conorh wrote:
Don’t worry Hoss, I posted that entirely for entertainment value. I’m completely stuck on the AD and wouldn’t do anything else.
Disc Hoss wrote:
CH,
This is (at best) specific to an unadapted individual. In addition, it is contrary to all the recent literature. Nobody with a modicum of a link to reality buys into low fat. Aceto works with roid users. I’ve stated before, this greatly increases you insulin sensitivity and metabolic processes. They are entirely different.
Vs. Aceto
Doc DiPas (expert and champion PL)
Charles Poliquin
Vince Gironda
Rheo Blair
Rob Faigin (NHE author)
Jay Robb
Will Brink
Dan John
Barry Sears
Dan Duchaine
and many others.
Rest assured, you are on the BEST thing going. Leave the rags on the shelf and buy a steak instead.
Best,
DH
conorh wrote:
Here’s a really good quote from the Sept '05 Flex, from Chris Aceto’s pp. 140 nutrition article:
“Fat-free or near fat-free precontest diets are extremely effective for removing bodyfat, because dietary fat, more so than carbs, is extremely efficient at making it’s way to bodyfat stores.”
As time goes by I’ll have a few “tricks” to add to the mix. Most of it is fringe things that I’d expect to come up as time goes on. Many have already been talked about such as the aforementioned carb sources (the real why), the depletion workouts, alternate spiking patterns. There’ll be more to come.
DH
[quote]jmoney wrote:
jerinevans wrote:
Disc Hoss wrote:
Anybody know why they should preferentially consume starches instead of sugars for the load? Beyond the obvious feeling of suckage that sugars cause. Too many at least… I still throw down on the goodies too.
Anyone interested?
Maybe I’ll start a tips/tricks aspect to this thread to give everybody the full understanding of the whys/hows so that we can mass produce disciples and then buy into the cattle market. Pay ourselves to get big!
DH
Bring it on, brotha’. You’ve got the credentials. Educate us, Your Hugeness!
Been following the thread for quite some time…DH, still planning to do this?[/quote]
I do, on Saturday at least. Sunday I’m usually off, unless I missed a training day during the week due to scheduling. In that case I make it up on Sundays. Wicked pumps when I do.
After 10 days on the diet, I have exciting results to report.
I went to the gym on Tuesday and surpassed my previous 6RM on the bench by about 10 pounds.
I also tested body-fat with an Omron analyzer. On the first day of the diet, I was 14.6%. As of this morning, I am almost 10 pounds lighter and 10.3%!
I don’t focus too much on numbers because I know they’re not too accurate, but I like to see trends. Strength going up and body fat going down are definitely encouraging.
Right. Unless you’re sporting single digit BF then “smooth out” is not helpful. For some, they can check their fingers. If you are retaining water then you may have had enough. But some retain quickly and easily. They may want to play around with sodium levels during the load and drink some distilled water to see if this helps. Really, don’t let it bother you either way. By sticking with at least 12 hours and no more than 36 you should be cool. Food choice plays a BIG part here. Keeping plenty of starches vs. junk will help most out significantly. Keep the numbers game and you’ll be fine. Also, some don’t realize that 36 hours, properly timed, is effectively “two” days. Sat morning (say 8am) until Sun evening (say 8pm) is 36 hours of loading, but you had CHO all day Sat and Sunday, or “two” days.
DH
[quote]AceQHounddog wrote:
I think that’s for those who are really lean and could tell the difference. Myself, I just stop when I feel like shit.[/quote]
After 10 days on the diet, I have exciting results to report.
I went to the gym on Tuesday and surpassed my previous 6RM on the bench by about 10 pounds.
I also tested body-fat with an Omron analyzer. On the first day of the diet, I was 14.6%. As of this morning, I am almost 10 pounds lighter and 10.3%!
I don’t focus too much on numbers because I know they’re not too accurate, but I like to see trends. Strength going up and body fat going down are definitely encouraging.
First carb up in 2 days… Pasta, here I come.[/quote]
Well, no, but I did entertain my son and his buddy who spent the night. “Hey, check out how much my dad can eat!” followed by the type of awestruck look only boys of 9 yrs old can muster. Ah, the memories I’m giving him. Ha!
DH
[quote]HogLover wrote:
Disc Hoss wrote:
Saturday I ate:
2 bowls of oatmeal
1 bowl of cereal
4 large bowls of pasta
1 large pizza (sorry Mrs. DH.)
3 Klondike bars
2 baked taters
Fried chicken and mashed taters
3 corn the cob
8 biscuits
32oz of Gatorade
2 Coke’s
2 large salads
2 bowls of mac & cheese
1 gallon of milk and a handful of oreos.
I felt awesome. My arms and shoulders were ready to pop. I love you, Doc DiPas.
DH
FOR THE LOVE!!! Did you spend your day on the toilet?
[/quote]
[quote]Disc Hoss wrote:
OK, we’ve not heard from MDragon for a good while. I’m looking to start a PM deluge. In fact, I’m sending one now. Anybody else in? ;-).
Hi, ‘yall. I’ve been wanting to “do this” for a few weeks now. This thread did it for me. I just started tonight. I made a HUGE spinach, egg and cheddar omlette. I used quite a bit of olive oil to saute’ the spinach and it had me knocking over the wife on the way to the TOILETTE’. I started RENEGADE training Tuesday night as well. I’ve only gotten to page 11 of this thread and I gotta say it’s got me WIRED! I’ve dabbled in this type of diet before but had NO support. Now I DO (you guys). I will keep up the posts and relay my progress, Thanks a million guys (and girls, right?)
Oh, did I mention my wifes’ family owns a breakfast joint with the BEST bacon in the universe? Not to mention the hottest cook as well (my wife). Great place to LOAD too (pancakes/muffins).
I’ve been doing the Anabolic diet for close to a month now I’d say that I can tell some concrete differences in my performance. I can tell that my strength in lifts has increased. I’ll admit that I need to keep better records of my lifts so I can see the difference but I know I’m loading more weight on my lifts. I also have been able to tell that my endurance has increased. I’ve been training for a Triathalon (I know it’s weird to be training for an endurance race while being on this type diet but maybe it’s not) and my running endurance has increased.
I think that I’m trimming up. The scale fluctuates but I haven’t seen drastic drops on the scale. I need to measure my bodyfat and all but when I look in the mirror I think I can tell that I’m trimming up. I’ll take some 1 month progress pics soon and post on my thread “Taking the Anabolic Plunge”.
