Thanks for the tips and i will definetly be stealing from the dining hall and starting this diet very soon. My next question is how i can find out the nutritional values of some of the food i will be eating, or does it really matter as long as i follow the recommendations of 60%fat 35% protien and 5% carbs as long as i keep carbs low enough and get enough calories, for me around 3250. Also any suggestions for any particular meats i should be stuffing in my bookbag
[quote]justinf77 wrote:
My father also wants to start this on Monday (this diet is contagious!) but he is not sure if it is OK for somebody with diabetes. He used Atkins in the past with some success, but he does not know how the carb-ups on the weekends will affect his blood sugar levels. He plans on sticking to mostly good carbs on the weekend and almost no cheats.
Any diabetics on this diet?[/quote]
In Dr D’s book “The Metabolic Diet” he says this diet is excellent for type 2 diabetics. He suggests that, depending on previous diet, medication levels may need to be adjusted (probably not in your father’s case, if he has been on Atkins). He also suggests sticking to low GI carbs in the carb up phase. Apart from that, he mentions that, with exercise, diabetics may need to be ready to adjust their meals, insulin intake or both to avoid hypoglycemia. Dr D also emphasises the need for diabetics to check glucose levels frequently until they are familiar with how they respond to the diet.
buddha
you will feel lethargic during the first few carb ups you do, partly due to the the junk food you are likely to include. Personal experience, I feel less lazy and have more energy during carbups now than a month back, I eat less junk and dont try not to pig out in one sitting.Try doing this and see if it works for you
D
[quote]buddhabellybum wrote:
I have a question regarding how you guys feel on carb-up days. I’m looking to do Habitat for Humanity on Saturdays when school starts and want to be able to have the energy and motivation necessary to volunteer there. DH and others have said that you’ll feel blase on the carb-up days… which means that if I feel lazy & lethargic on carb-up days, the AD is a no-go.
Thanks!
Kurt[/quote]
[quote]conorh wrote:
Sabrina wrote:
justinf77 wrote:
I use it like other people use ketchup. I slather it on just about everything. I don’t count my calories, which is probably bad on me.
I just keep a rein on my trash food consumption and everything kind of falls into place.
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Yes, maybe should have said, if you are counting, cooking with it counts. 
I keep a log for the first few weeks when I start a new diet, but I am a creature of habit and after that don’t because I’ll just eat the same things over and over. If I get too anal about it (and I have in the past), I find it to be a hinderance rather than a help, so I don’t worry about it as long as I am happy with the results I am getting. But I do sort of keep a total running in my head thoughout the day, that’s automatic.
I agree on the junk, and I am pretty sparing with the milk fats as much as cream may just be my favorite thing on earth to stick in my piehole.
Sabrina
[quote]buddhabellybum wrote:
I have a question regarding how you guys feel on carb-up days. I’m looking to do Habitat for Humanity on Saturdays when school starts and want to be able to have the energy and motivation necessary to volunteer there. DH and others have said that you’ll feel blase on the carb-up days… which means that if I feel lazy & lethargic on carb-up days, the AD is a no-go.
Thanks!
Kurt[/quote]
I have felt very lethargic so far on the carb-up days but, it has not been debilitating. haha! Just harder to motivate. Also get kind of bloated and don’t actually have much of an appetite. My understanding is that it gets better as you adjust. Additionally, you don’t have to do the carb-up on saturday, you could move it to a different day.
Hey Guys,
I’ve been folllowing the anabolic diet now for about a month and it’s going great. I picked up the book (the anabolic solution) and it has been really helpful with outlining the foods I should be eating. I am currently a week into the mass phase and am eating 5000+ calories a day and feeling GREAT. Massing up quite nicely too even in just a week. Maybe it’s my age(16) or something but I dont seem to be gaining much fat if any. It doesn’t seem possible but it’s true. Just eating a hell of alot of steak, eggs, cheese, olive oil ect.
I got a couple of q’s for DH though. My carb intake varies from day to day(never over 30), is this ok or should it be maintained? Also is all natural peanut butter ok? On the ingredients list it says peanuts,salt thats it. What do you use PWO meals? Also what if anything before bed?
Here’s a really good quote from the Sept '05 Flex, from Chris Aceto’s pp. 140 nutrition article:
“Fat-free or near fat-free precontest diets are extremely effective for removing bodyfat, because dietary fat, more so than carbs, is extremely efficient at making it’s way to bodyfat stores.”
Wonderful.
This is probably true… if you are on the juice.
Todd
[quote]conorh wrote:
Here’s a really good quote from the Sept '05 Flex, from Chris Aceto’s pp. 140 nutrition article:
“Fat-free or near fat-free precontest diets are extremely effective for removing bodyfat, because dietary fat, more so than carbs, is extremely efficient at making it’s way to bodyfat stores.”
Wonderful.[/quote]
I have my first carb up tomorrow and was wondering where the gi rankings of food come into play. I’ve heard most say that carb up days consist mostly of good carbs and some junk. Are these good carbs low gi things such as oatmeal and yams, or will any complex carb do the trick, ie baked potatoes, rice, bread, etc?
I don’t really have anything good to contribute, but I hate to see this thread fall behind so many other less useful threads.
Expect some before and after pics from me on here in the near future.
Time for an update. 7 days into the diet.
On the second day, I felt tired, my workout was terrible (I could not finish it) and my energy level was low.
By Friday, I felt great. Even energy, good workouts, and focused thinking. This has continued all throughout the weekend.
I even have to pat myself on the back because the only cheat I had the entire time was a glass of wine when the whole family went to dinner Saturday night. I managed to control all my cravings during a huge street fair today, while everybody around me was eating zeppoles, cheesesteaks, sausage and pepper sandwiches, funnel cakes…
Anyway, as far as results go, I am down about 4-5 pounds, most of which is water weight. I can also feel my stomach area tightening up and my top abs are starting to peek through. Definite progress.
I am excited to see what the next few weeks bring. I am going to cut down to a decent level, maybe 10%, and then begin a bulking phase with this.
But I think I am MOST excited for the weekend carb-up. Lots of cravings over the last few days, and I am just dying for a large plate of pasta.
How is everyone else doing?
PS - Let’s keep this amazing thread alive.
Well, I’m through my second carb weekend. I’ve got to say that the cravings have lessened the more I’ve been on this diet. I’m feeling pretty good about my progress at this time. I started out at 205 a few weeks ago and I was down to 200 or 199 before this weekends carb up. Hopefully over the next week I’ll get under 200 for the first time in awhile.
I’ve got a sprint Triathalon coming up this weekend so I’m sure that’ll help me get my weight down.
Anyway, just wanted to drop a line and say how much I’m liking this diet. I’m currently reading the Anabolic Diet book and getting as much info as I can. Enjoying this plan a whole lot as I can see others are.
Going well for me. No carb cravings, enjoying the steak. A big carb-up is not as easy as it seems - my appetite for carbs no longer seems to be there.
I’m always looking forward to getting back to the PF meals by the end of the carb up.
By the way, does anyone know what ever happened to the original poster of this thread?
[quote]AceQHounddog wrote:
I’m always looking forward to getting back to the PF meals by the end of the carb up.
By the way, does anyone know what ever happened to the original poster of this thread?[/quote]
Agreed. I feel terrible when carbing up compared to how lean and mean I feel on about Thursday.
My daddy always says hungry dogs run faster, and thats how I feel when I get all those damn carbs out of my system.
-Conor
[quote]Africa x wrote:
Hey Guys,
I’ve been folllowing the anabolic diet now for about a month and it’s going great. I picked up the book (the anabolic solution) and it has been really helpful with outlining the foods I should be eating. I am currently a week into the mass phase and am eating 5000+ calories a day and feeling GREAT. Massing up quite nicely too even in just a week. Maybe it’s my age(16) or something but I dont seem to be gaining much fat if any. It doesn’t seem possible but it’s true. Just eating a hell of alot of steak, eggs, cheese, olive oil ect.
I got a couple of q’s for DH though. My carb intake varies from day to day(never over 30), is this ok or should it be maintained? Also is all natural peanut butter ok? On the ingredients list it says peanuts,salt thats it. What do you use PWO meals? Also what if anything before bed?[/quote]
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Doesn’t matter on varied intake. Just don’t break the total. There is no minimum per se, but it’s good to use it for veggies. Just remember, Fiber does NOT count against your total.
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all natty PB is great. Again, just check active carbs (total carbs - fiber)
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Workout stuff has been hit in the last 5-10 pages I’d guess. Check around for it a bit.
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Anything you want before bed. Without CHO to screw with your GH levels, you’re fine with anything. I like a shake (protein, cream, sugar free jello, natural PB) and some almonds. Also Cottage cheese and turkey bacon are bedtime favorites. Just get some good fat and protein. It would seem best not to slam back 600-1000 cals at this time, though. Make this your smallest meal of the day to be safe.
best,
DH
Saturday I ate:
2 bowls of oatmeal
1 bowl of cereal
4 large bowls of pasta
1 large pizza (sorry Mrs. DH.)
3 Klondike bars
2 baked taters
Fried chicken and mashed taters
3 corn the cob
8 biscuits
32oz of Gatorade
2 Coke’s
2 large salads
2 bowls of mac & cheese
1 gallon of milk and a handful of oreos.
I felt awesome. My arms and shoulders were ready to pop. I love you, Doc DiPas.
DH
CH,
This is (at best) specific to an unadapted individual. In addition, it is contrary to all the recent literature. Nobody with a modicum of a link to reality buys into low fat. Aceto works with roid users. I’ve stated before, this greatly increases you insulin sensitivity and metabolic processes. They are entirely different.
Vs. Aceto
Doc DiPas (expert and champion PL)
Charles Poliquin
Vince Gironda
Rheo Blair
Rob Faigin (NHE author)
Jay Robb
Will Brink
Dan John
Barry Sears
Dan Duchaine
and many others.
Rest assured, you are on the BEST thing going. Leave the rags on the shelf and buy a steak instead.
Best,
DH
[quote]conorh wrote:
Here’s a really good quote from the Sept '05 Flex, from Chris Aceto’s pp. 140 nutrition article:
“Fat-free or near fat-free precontest diets are extremely effective for removing bodyfat, because dietary fat, more so than carbs, is extremely efficient at making it’s way to bodyfat stores.”
Wonderful.[/quote]
This has a lot to do with 3 variables:
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Time on diet. Longer = better adaptation and less intense swings.
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Choice of CHO. Quality over junk cannot be overemphasized.
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Meal structures. Most do best on spreading calories over the whole day so as not to create a huge glut at any one time. Give your body smaller (not necessarily small) more frequent feedings to even out energy.
DH
[quote]buddhabellybum wrote:
I have a question regarding how you guys feel on carb-up days. I’m looking to do Habitat for Humanity on Saturdays when school starts and want to be able to have the energy and motivation necessary to volunteer there. DH and others have said that you’ll feel blase on the carb-up days… which means that if I feel lazy & lethargic on carb-up days, the AD is a no-go.
Thanks!
Kurt[/quote]
While GI lists are not the whole story (insulin index is better. check some of JB’s articles on a search) they can be a decent “idea” list. Just make it about 75% starches and some veggies. Then allow for some sweets and such with the balance.
DH
[quote]speedy5323 wrote:
I have my first carb up tomorrow and was wondering where the gi rankings of food come into play. I’ve heard most say that carb up days consist mostly of good carbs and some junk. Are these good carbs low gi things such as oatmeal and yams, or will any complex carb do the trick, ie baked potatoes, rice, bread, etc?[/quote]