I use carb ups on days off. If that is the traditional weekend of Saturday and Sunday, great. But if not, no worries. As long as you follow the rotation, your body doesn’t know what day it is. For instance, I’m a bartender. I generally carb up on Tuesday or Thursday, whatever day I have off.
I ignore the don’t eat at night rule as well.
Hey, it’s time for another one of my sporadic inputs.
this time it’s a relatively obvious COST SAVING technique I found.
For grocery shopping just buy a couple of different roasts.
eg: I bought Pork Shoulder and a Lamb Roast this week. other than this I look for 2-3 filets of fish. then its a matter of some unswtnd almond milk and greens and eggs.
This weeks grocery bill for me with this method was $80 lower. (~$60) but I had some misc stuff in there as well.
what is your caloric intake evil1? Btw Im obsessed with my super shake! Id seriously have this every meal! Serving of spinach, .5C berries, 1oz mixed nuts, scoop-O-whey, Green tea/water. And depending on when Im ingesting Ill add my mix of macadamia and EVOO (1/2 TBS each) and/or flax. Only time I dont add these in is if its before my W/O
[quote]bkmacky9288 wrote:
what is your caloric intake evil1? Btw Im obsessed with my super shake! Id seriously have this every meal! Serving of spinach, .5C berries, 1oz mixed nuts, scoop-O-whey, Green tea/water. And depending on when Im ingesting Ill add my mix of macadamia and EVOO (1/2 TBS each) and/or flax. Only time I dont add these in is if its before my W/O[/quote]
I don’t know what how much I take in. Cal counting tends to bring out a very OCD side of me and usually ends up with me cutting calories everywhere (ex-anorexic).
If forced to estimate, I would say i eat around 1500-1600 a day. 3 meals and a shake.
I know its low, but I successfully ruined my body with thermos in the past and am still healing. the simplicity of the AD helps out tons.
p.s. i don’t know how you guys choke down those shakes. i dont like liquefied vegetables. I am addicted to my current protein shake though (wpi, wpc, egg, casein blend with almond milk, canola oil and davinci flavorings).
ever see what I wrote for a super shake? seriously you have to try it!!
hey fellas - 3rd day ADing here-i got question-is it 30g cho? or 5%?
Hey y’all,
an introduction…
I’v taken a little time off the AD, but had played with the lifestyle for over 2 years.
During my most disciplined 6 months of bulk/maintainence calories I gained:
-0.5" on calves
-1" on my neck
-1" on my arms
-1.5" on my waist
-3" on thighs
I started at 80.7kg, and ended at 80.7kg, despite my new measurements. I also found my 7th and 8th abs after only 2 days of lowered cals on the bulk phase diet.
I’m happy to answer questions, and hope to refine/remember my own knowledge of the diet.
Nice to meet you:)
[quote]oldhead wrote:
hey fellas - 3rd day ADing here-i got question-is it 30g cho? or 5%?[/quote]
I just use 30g carbs. Easy to remember and isn’t really all that different (my 5% would be 45g) from the 5%.
iam trying to use 30g but %$##@ theres carbs in everything -
Theres nothing more than satisfying then getting good at making your own sauces on the AD.
You’ll be able to easily adjust your calories and/or fat ratios when you get good at mayo and its variants, and also saving heaps by being flexible with what cuts of meat you need.
The best tweak I ever made was moving to lean meats+ fish, while using plenty of homemade sauces.
It can really help to keep up variety.
On a weekly basis, I only visit the butcher and greengrocer. Period.
I just started the AD as well and have a log following my journey in the “training log” section of the forums. I have a quick question for anyone who’s and expert or “in the know” on the AD;
do I have to account for the carbs in my sugar free metamucil? I thought I did not b/c it’s all fiber like how you don’t count green vegetables, but I read the article “Eat Like A Man” and it said you should. If that’s the case, I’ve been going WAY over 30 grams just from my supplemented fiber intake and this past 2 weeks has been a waste of time!
The way I think of it,
If I could still be bothered taking any extra fibre after 15 cups of broccoli (or equivalent), i’d worry about it then.
Then, i’d get me some cheap ass psyllium husk or incorporate flax meal based recipes instead.
Some will say the carb limit becomes more forgiving the longer you’re on the AD… but at the same time, one becomes more sensitive to the carbs that they do take in. Ime this can include fibre and low g.i veg… and you can notice the spike if there’s even 1 carb in that burger you just ate.
Less the fibre, metamucil has 2g of carbs per serve? 3x per day? I think you’l be fine. It is the macronutrient ‘shuffle’ that kicks these new processes into play, more than simply the static beginners guidelines. It may depend on your previous diet and macros as to how significant the shift is, but its all just learning. There is no ‘waste’ of time, just more references for your increasing success.
Every ‘failure’ becomes more experience with your body and the diet.
The true test is within your own experience.
Just keep on, and it all makes sense looking back.
[quote]Viets wrote:
I just started the AD as well and have a log following my journey in the “training log” section of the forums. I have a quick question for anyone who’s and expert or “in the know” on the AD;
do I have to account for the carbs in my sugar free metamucil? I thought I did not b/c it’s all fiber like how you don’t count green vegetables, but I read the article “Eat Like A Man” and it said you should. If that’s the case, I’ve been going WAY over 30 grams just from my supplemented fiber intake and this past 2 weeks has been a waste of time! [/quote]
You’ll be fine. benefiber has better shit (silica) that has nothing but fiber if you really need the fiber.
How many shits do you take? you know that 30g of fiber is more than enough. after all the veggies you should be easily between 20 and 30.
-chris
[quote]Avocado wrote:
Viets wrote:
I just started the AD as well and have a log following my journey in the “training log” section of the forums. I have a quick question for anyone who’s and expert or “in the know” on the AD;
do I have to account for the carbs in my sugar free metamucil? I thought I did not b/c it’s all fiber like how you don’t count green vegetables, but I read the article “Eat Like A Man” and it said you should. If that’s the case, I’ve been going WAY over 30 grams just from my supplemented fiber intake and this past 2 weeks has been a waste of time!
You’ll be fine. benefiber has better shit (silica) that has nothing but fiber if you really need the fiber.
How many shits do you take? you know that 30g of fiber is more than enough. after all the veggies you should be easily between 20 and 30.
-chris
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I shit in the morning and at night. So twice a day. The previous poster was way off on carb count for sugar free metamucil. It’s 5 grams for 1 tsp. I was using 2 tsp, 3 times a day. That’s 30 grams. When I don’t take it, my poop is mushy and hard to expell. Like softserve ice cream. When I add in the fiber, it’s hard and compacted and shoots out nicely, making for a much more pleasant experience. Sorry for the graphic nature of this post.
so we substract the fiber in veggies and the supplemental ???
Viets,
5g = 1 tsp.
That must all be sugar, hey;)
I will correct myself… Upon closer examination, the (net) carbs are actually ZERO. The 2g I quoted was actually the soluble fibre count per teaspoon. Which again, you will subtract from the total carb count anyway.
Subtract total fibre from total carbs.
Then you will count only your net carbs.
Another alternative is drinking a morning coffee before your breakfast. That definitely gets things moving. I drink organic, and from memory the ph of the coffee can even act like a natural detox for your bowels.
Warm water with lemon, or celery+ parsley juice is even better. Tonifying for all the organs that need it.
help?
2 day carb up… defeats the purpose of ketosis?
Is this even a ketosis type diet?
AND… what about carb ups, TC talks about beer and pizza and crap which sounds like bullshit to me. What do we actually eat… do we have an exact meal plan for weekends?
help
[quote]BigJonMud wrote:
Viets,
5g = 1 tsp.
That must all be sugar, hey;)
I will correct myself… Upon closer examination, the (net) carbs are actually ZERO. The 2g I quoted was actually the soluble fibre count per teaspoon. Which again, you will subtract from the total carb count anyway.
Subtract total fibre from total carbs.
Then you will count only your net carbs.
Another alternative is drinking a morning coffee before your breakfast. That definitely gets things moving. I drink organic, and from memory the ph of the coffee can even act like a natural detox for your bowels.
Warm water with lemon, or celery+ parsley juice is even better. Tonifying for all the organs that need it.
[/quote]
BigJonMud,
Excellent observation and this is EXACTLY what I was thinking when I incorporated the sweet heavenly orange nectar into my diet in the first place. Just like my low carb tortilla’s. The carb count is 13 grams but they have 8 grams of fiber so I’m only counting 5 grams towards my totals. I’m putting the orange goodness back in! I think I needed someone else to explain it how I thought it already was, so now I can feel comfortable taking it 3 times a day at 1 tsp per and no carbs will be counted!
It’s less important what you ‘knew’ about dieting, and more important to start new.
Results, before you see the best progress of your life… Will be doubt, worry and confusion early on.
After you get a personal feeling for what your body does with different foods, fats… and eventually how you choose to structure your carb load… the Anabolic diet will begin making its own kind of perfect sense.
Now, my experience with Dr Mauro’s vauge outline and suggestions for carb up comes nowhere near close to the success of adapting t-dawg and velocity principles into the mix.
I had the best success with ‘The ultimate diet 2.0’ carb loading parameters. That included 200g dextrose every 1.5 hours till I reached 1400g in 12 hours (with the help of a lil multigrain bread and sweet tato) and then a day full of brown rice and pasta. The trick is to slowly take less simple, liquid based carbs and increase complex+ quality and CLEAN carb sources.
To really experience the reported ‘hormone manipulation’ (ie. insane strength and pumps) I had to be more committed to the weekend than I was through the week.
[quote]Joseb wrote:
help?
2 day carb up… defeats the purpose of ketosis?
Is this even a ketosis type diet?
AND… what about carb ups, TC talks about beer and pizza and crap which sounds like bullshit to me. What do we actually eat… do we have an exact meal plan for weekends?
help
[/quote]
Joseb,
There is an OUTSTANDING article on here by Coach Thibs from just a few days ago that includes a sub-topic called “Instant Ketosis”. Coach Thibs explains exactly what to do on a ONE DAY carb up. It’s actually 3/4 of a day carbing up with no carbs after 4pm and there is a way to get back to Ketosis by Sunday morning if you follow his protocal and buy a tub of Leucine. It’s cheap, under $25, I bought one strictly for this purpose.
There is an exact meal plan outlined, you just have to pick the actual food choices. I’m doing it this Saturday. I’ll be posting my results in my log on the Training Log section of the forum. You should check it out (nobody else has, lol). I outline my exact diet and supplement intake plus my training routine. I was hoping for some replies or advice and I’m getting no bites. But it’s fun plus it keeps me motivated. I have trouble sticking to one plan for an extended period of time so it’s helping stick to the AD. Hope my post helps you out!