I just read the book and one thing that isn’t really explained is why to intake under 30g of carbs a day. This is the amount recommended, and is also rougly the amount to be in a ketogenic state for most.
So, are you remaining in ketosis despite the massive weekly carb-up? The author seems to indicate that you aren’t in ketosis at any point.
If that’s the case, why 30g CHO a day? Why not 50-70g, and increase the amount of berries/veggies and such in the diet? and what are the advantages of ketosis in the AD?
[quote]jarc wrote:
I started this diet 2 Mondays ago, so I am past the 12 day no carb, first carb up weekend. I am wondering if anybody has had their cholesterol levels checked out while on this diet? I got mine checked on Day 11 of the first 12 days. My LDL was 177, way high. Everything else was great, including my uric acid levels(4.4).
The doctor told me to get it rechecked at 6 months. I think I will stick with this diet for at least that long and see if my LDL’s go down. I am going to try and reduce the saturated fat intake, hoping I can still get the right amount of fat for the diet. So has anybody else run into this problem?[/quote]
Well that 177 level doesn’t really tell you much unless you can compare it to a previous test…what was it at the last time you had it checked?
[quote]joeker wrote:
jarc wrote:
I started this diet 2 Mondays ago, so I am past the 12 day no carb, first carb up weekend. I am wondering if anybody has had their cholesterol levels checked out while on this diet? I got mine checked on Day 11 of the first 12 days. My LDL was 177, way high. Everything else was great, including my uric acid levels(4.4).
The doctor told me to get it rechecked at 6 months. I think I will stick with this diet for at least that long and see if my LDL’s go down. I am going to try and reduce the saturated fat intake, hoping I can still get the right amount of fat for the diet. So has anybody else run into this problem?
Well that 177 level doesn’t really tell you much unless you can compare it to a previous test…what was it at the last time you had it checked?
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I don’t know what it was last year but the Dr. said that it is higher than last year? I reread the book last night, at least the cholesterol levels part, and Dr. D does state that at in the start up phase it is possible to have higher LDL levels since you are taking in a lot more fat than normal and your body has quite become fat adapted yet.
I am not so worried anymore. I am going to watch my saturated fat levels and try to get plenty of the good poly and mono fats. My Tri glyceride levels were good and my HDL was very good, I can’t find the numbers right now, will post later.
I will re test cholesterol levels in 6 months and see how it turns out.
[quote]actionjeff wrote:
I just read the book and one thing that isn’t really explained is why to intake under 30g of carbs a day. This is the amount recommended, and is also rougly the amount to be in a ketogenic state for most.
So, are you remaining in ketosis despite the massive weekly carb-up? The author seems to indicate that you aren’t in ketosis at any point.
If that’s the case, why 30g CHO a day? Why not 50-70g, and increase the amount of berries/veggies and such in the diet? and what are the advantages of ketosis in the AD?[/quote]
Supposedly your body does not remain in ketosis. Somewhere in the first 20 pages or so of this thread DH spells out why its not, but I can’t remember off the top of my head. Maybe just scan through those pages and ctrl+f for “ketosis” and see what that turns up…
Alright so i found my weight loss calling. John Berardis Get Shredded Diet is awesome in conjuntion with the AD. Since wrestling season is starting up again I gotta represent and shred up (I coach at my old high school and club wrestle in college.)
At first I just lowered calories which always worked, but then I started GSD and ended my cardio and Im losing faster…pretty good stuff so. Lost 10 lbs in 5 weeks.
made it through the transition period and my first carb up
feeling damn good!
anyone have any advice on what type of fat intake I should be looking for, for weight loss? no cardio, lifting 4-5 times a week, 195 pounds and BF 15 percent or so.
I was thinking like 225g protein, 25g carbs, and 150g fat a day. And then like 450g of carbs over the 36 hour carb load. How does this sound?
to be honest I felt pretty good just ketogenic, but the carb up gave me sick energy for a couple days
Can anyone help me on how to deal with stomach burns (due to the acidity of the anabolic diet). I have been following it now for more than 2 years and even eating spinach,m broccoli etc doesn’t arrange it.
I took some baking soda, well it solves my problem but it causes me other somach distress…so anyone has another solution?
you eat any berries? that sounds pretty weak and I haven’t experienced it in the least, but I’ve been trying to get greens and sometimes berries with every meal
its not a bad idea to get some berries on the non-carb days. plenty of the carbs are fiber. i like the Super Food they sell on here. All the nutrtional benefits of eating a bunch of berries, spinach, and brocolli in one 5g serving. I get my fiber intake from the flax muffin recipes with which i add 100%cacao just for the extra antioxidants that come along and the same for the i put in cinnamon.
I also take a psyllum husk shake before bed and once or twice with a meal randomly during the day
What are you guys eating to get in more calories?
I seem to always have a problem getting in my calories.
I shoot for 3000 at least and always come in under.
I eat a lot of meat, I take in olive oil, I eat olives, some nuts, flaxseed, etc…I just can’t seem to eat enough.
I am trying to gain some weight but having a hell of a time.
I am at ~170LBs, 5’9".
36 years old
BF is ~14 per the Accumeasure calipers, reading 10mm.
Please, any advice is appreciated.
Or should I try to Lean up more before trying to gain?
Nuts, oils, and cheeses. A handful of almonds is 170 cals. A tbsp of natty PB is 100 cals, and oz of cheese is about 100 cals. Eat some steak, add a shot of EVOO to your shakes, and try baking with flax meal.
On a calorically dense high fat diet hitting 3000 kCals shouldn’t be a problem.
jarc, if you are trying to bulk on a ketogenic diet, dont. it doesn’t really work that well. typically people end up putting on more fat than muscle this way.
the anabolic diet is meant for cutting, trying to build muscle on less than 30g per day is an exercise in futility IMO.
[quote]JMoUCF87 wrote:
jarc, if you are trying to bulk on a ketogenic diet, dont. it doesn’t really work that well. typically people end up putting on more fat than muscle this way.
the anabolic diet is meant for cutting, trying to build muscle on less than 30g per day is an exercise in futility IMO.[/quote]
Thank you…I have been reading another thread along the same lines and that is what I am getting. I might read up on CTs carb load codex article and see what I can do there.
I don’t even know if I should be bulking. My build is pretty decent as far as fat, except for my gut. I am around 14 or more BF according to the Accumeasure calipers.
yeah, I went to a targeted carb approach about 2 weeks ago. College just is not conducive to no carbing all week. Plus, as CT said in the “bodybuilding on the anabolic diet” thread, the AD just can’t match a giant carb spike around and after your workout for anabolism.
I’ve found targeted carbs approach is easier to maintain, gets better results in the gym, doesnt leave me feeling tired a few days a week, and is generally tastier.
I still eat mostly P+F meals, and my off days are <30-50g carbs. Hell, my workout days only end up with ~150g carbs, most all of it coming PWO via Surge and rice/potatoes.
However its also nice having the peace of mind that I can have a protein bar midday for a quick snack or some beans or ezekiel bread if im cravin it and not having an absolute carb limit to stick to.
Some good points made here…kinda makes me think about going back to carbs for when i start a bulk phase then transitioning to AD when I cut…Its been 3 years for me on the AD and I’ve seen decent results both ways so I guess I shall experiment
[quote]jarc wrote:
What are you guys eating to get in more calories?
I seem to always have a problem getting in my calories.
I shoot for 3000 at least and always come in under.
I eat a lot of meat, I take in olive oil, I eat olives, some nuts, flaxseed, etc…I just can’t seem to eat enough. [/quote]
Seriously? I have trouble not going over, also keep in mind that the 30g cho limit is based on 5% of your total caloric intake so my cho limit works out to 31gs try and recalculate your’s if you’re doing the 3000 cal thing
Hey, im on week 3 of the Anabolic diet, and i need some advise. I started at 18x bodyweight which at 170 came out to be 3060 cal,
230g P
<30g C
204g F
I lost 6lbs in the first week, all water weight. Now i wake up at 165 but after a meal or too i weigh in at 169, so im at the same weght when i started.
At first I felt fine, but slowly i felt that i was putting on some fat. I disregarded as part of the induction phase. However, as i am now on day 20 im noticably chubbier in my abs as i lost my 4 pack and only 1-2 remains. My diet consists of
Meal 1: 4 eggs 1tbsp EVOO
Meal 2: 2 scoops ON Whey 1Tbsp EVoo
Meal 3: 8oz ground beef 2oz cheese w/3 fish oil
Meal 4: 8 oz ground 1Tbsp flax oil 2oz cheese (colby)
Meal 5: 3 oz cheese (colby)
Meal6: 1/2 C Cottage Cheese w/ 3fish oil
I drink plenty of water, i take Mega Men multivitamin from GNC, and Vitamin E from natures made, i do drink a couple cups of tea throuh out the day too. I train Mon/Tues and Thurs/Fri cardio 2-3 times a week.
So my question is, why am i gaining fat? Should i just lower my total cal? or maybe im just not ment for this type of diet and should switch to a different one? any advise would be greatly appreciated thx.