Hey mate …
Your right I need to stop fucking around and concentrate on eating and training.
I’m gonna fully commit myself to this life style for 6 months (2 months maintenance + 4 months bulking) and see my body responds.
Please share if you have had some success bulking on the AD, I would like to hear about it!
Ok team, I have a recipe that is just too delicious no to share:
It all started when I ordered a tub of the Dr’s MD Power Drink (a low carb protein powder, with added creatine and glutamine.) Mixed with water it tasted pretty blah, so I tried whipping it up with cream, which tasted much more palatable. That lead me to an idea that became…
CHEESECAKE ANABOLIQUE:
Base:
75g softened butter
3 egg yolks
4 pkts Splenda (4g)
1 1/2 cups(150g) almond meal
Filling:
2 sachets gelatine
100ml boiling water
2 cups(500ml) pouring cream
3 round scoops(66g) MD Power Drink (fruit punch flavour is all I’ve been able to find)
500g smooth Light Ricotta (I like Perfect Italiano brand, as it contains <1g/100g)
3 egg whites
2 pkts Splenda(2g)
1.Add gelatine to boiling water, beating thouroughly with a fork. Allow to cool slightly.
2. Whip cream with electric beater, until thick.
3. Still beating, slowly add protein powder and finaly, Ricotta and disolved gelatine.
4. With a clean beater and bowl, beat egg whites until stiff, before beating in Splenda.
5. Fold egg white mixture into ricotta minxture, taking care not to break the whites down too much. Pour into springform tin and return to fridge for 2 hours, or until set.
Serves: 8
Cals per serve: 495
Protein: 21.6
Fat: 42.4
Carbs minus fibre:4.3
Unless you are doing a serious bulk-up, I would reccomend making this cake when you have a few friends to help you eat it -I found it VERY hard to stop @ 1 piece!
ENJOY!
sounds great, you could probably replace the power drink with whey right? i think vanilla or chocolate would make a much better cheesecake then fruit punch
what kind of gelatin are you talking about? the only ones i could find were jell-o ones with sugar
Hokay…so after becoming to lazy to mix my own PWO, i have recently been buying different RTD’s from shops. Then i just add some flaxmeal and UDO’s as required to suit my needs. I thought i would post some of the ones i’ve had: They’re all low carb.
Note: i like my shakes thick and creamy and usually eat them with a spoon. and these all have casein and whey as i have them for my last meal.
Labrada Lean Body - Vanilla - 4c/40p/9f
Amazing. Addicting even.
Met-Rx - Vanilla - 4c/31p/1f
Ok. i guess i got spoiled by Labarada
GNC 50gm - Vanilla - 4c/50p/1f
Pretty good and normal ingredients,
apart from sucralose.
Myoplex - Vanilla - DONT BOTHER. The worst.
very Thin, tastes like ass.
Thats it so far. Gonna try MM vanilla today. The other flavours next week. The best part about these shakes is that they take care of my calcium and Vit D intakes which has been tough since i started the AD.
[quote]David1991 wrote:
sounds great, you could probably replace the power drink with whey right? i think vanilla or chocolate would make a much better cheesecake then fruit punch
what kind of gelatin are you talking about? the only ones i could find were jell-o ones with sugar[/quote]
Plain, unflavoured gelatine. It is easy to buy in Australia, even 7-11 have it! As for substituting other whey powders, go for your life! PVL make The Whey gourmet, which comes in all sorts of addictively delicious flavours (cookies’n’cream, choc mint, cuppacino) and most of them have 2-3g carbs/serve.
I devised this recipe as a way of using up a not-so-nice tub of protein powder -and it works great in the cake. My partner loves it too and he usually gags on anything artifically sweetened.
Another option would be to use flavoured sugarfree jello chrystals in place of the gelatine and plain WPI in place of the Power Drink.
[quote]Evil1 wrote:
Hokay…so after becoming to lazy to mix my own PWO, i have recently been buying different RTD’s from shops. Then i just add some flaxmeal and UDO’s as required to suit my needs. I thought i would post some of the ones i’ve had: They’re all low carb.
Note: i like my shakes thick and creamy and usually eat them with a spoon. and these all have casein and whey as i have them for my last meal.
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In Australia the only readily avilable RTD of it’s kind is Aussie Bodies low carb Protein Revival. Nothing wrong with the taste or texture, but the hidden carbs, OMG! The label says 10g carbs, but with the added polydextrose, it is much closer to 21 -WAY too much for the AD! Another product I once came accross was Protein Water: 0g carbs, but the taste was so disgusting, I took once mouthful and threw the rest away.
What can be so difficuilt about putting your dry whey powder in a shaker with the lid on and filling it up from the water cooler at the gym? I go 2 scoops WPI + a tsp cocoa and a packet of Splenda. At least then I know what I’m getting.
[quote]Delphoene wrote:
Evil1 wrote:
In Australia the only readily avilable RTD of it’s kind is Aussie Bodies low carb Protein Revival. Nothing wrong with the taste or texture, but the hidden carbs, OMG! The label says 10g carbs, but with the added polydextrose, it is much closer to 21 -WAY too much for the AD!
Another product I once came accross was Protein Water: 0g carbs, but the taste was so disgusting, I took once mouthful and threw the rest away.
What can be so difficuilt about putting your dry whey powder in a shaker with the lid on and filling it up from the water cooler at the gym? I go 2 scoops WPI + a tsp cocoa and a packet of Splenda. At least then I know what I’m getting.
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Nothings too hard but after sitting at a desk for 8 hours and then working out, i just don’t want to. I was doing the homemade shake but this was i get some casein as well and Labrada is a pretty reputable company and you get what you see.
Anyone remember what has been said about sugar alcohols on this diet?
It has been some time since I read the book and figured this would be faster. I just got back on this, and in the last two weeks there have been two occasions where I was short on time and found myself falling back on a protein bar at the grocery store to round out a meal.
5 g fiber and 17 g protein is nice, but, 19g of sugar alcohols is questionable I know.
I probably won’t start the diet over again just because of this, but I am curious.
[quote]Moon Knight wrote:
Anyone remember what has been said about sugar alcohols on this diet?
It has been some time since I read the book and figured this would be faster. I just got back on this, and in the last two weeks there have been two occasions where I was short on time and found myself falling back on a protein bar at the grocery store to round out a meal.
5 g fiber and 17 g protein is nice, but, 19g of sugar alcohols is questionable I know.
I probably won’t start the diet over again just because of this, but I am curious.[/quote]
quite simply the answer is to count them. only fibre is free. on the other hand a sweetener such as Xylitol or Mannitol has been shown to have no effect on the insulin levels at all, so they would be ok.
Depends on how anal you wanna be. Have you seen any differences since you started having it?
[quote]Evil1 wrote:
Moon Knight wrote:
Anyone remember what has been said about sugar alcohols on this diet?
It has been some time since I read the book and figured this would be faster. I just got back on this, and in the last two weeks there have been two occasions where I was short on time and found myself falling back on a protein bar at the grocery store to round out a meal.
5 g fiber and 17 g protein is nice, but, 19g of sugar alcohols is questionable I know.
I probably won’t start the diet over again just because of this, but I am curious.
quite simply the answer is to count them. only fibre is free. on the other hand a sweetener such as Xylitol or Mannitol has been shown to have no effect on the insulin levels at all, so they would be ok.
Depends on how anal you wanna be. Have you seen any differences since you started having it? [/quote]
Well, like I said it was two separate occasions over a two week period. I honestly couldn’t say for sure if I felt any marked difference the days I ate them. I’ve had other things going on (first a bad reaction to some liver tablets, then failure to keep my sodium up, then some adrenal weakness showing itself off) that have made this a rocky start and held my attention more than the protein bar.
[quote]Moon Knight wrote:
Evil1 wrote:
Moon Knight wrote:
Well, like I said it was two separate occasions over a two week period. I honestly couldn’t say for sure if I felt any marked difference the days I ate them. I’ve had other things going on (first a bad reaction to some liver tablets, then failure to keep my sodium up, then some adrenal weakness showing itself off) that have made this a rocky start and held my attention more than the protein bar.
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I guess the best bet would be to shop the perimeter of the grocery store for now. Adjust the other stuff and then look into this.
P.S. how in the hell do you get low sodium on the AD??? couple of rashers of bacon or some salami and youre golden.
[quote]Evil1 wrote:
Moon Knight wrote:
Evil1 wrote:
Moon Knight wrote:
Well, like I said it was two separate occasions over a two week period. I honestly couldn’t say for sure if I felt any marked difference the days I ate them. I’ve had other things going on (first a bad reaction to some liver tablets, then failure to keep my sodium up, then some adrenal weakness showing itself off) that have made this a rocky start and held my attention more than the protein bar.
I guess the best bet would be to shop the perimeter of the grocery store for now. Adjust the other stuff and then look into this.
P.S. how in the hell do you get low sodium on the AD??? couple of rashers of bacon or some salami and youre golden.
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Yeah, my food is really simple stuff. The protein bar was just an odd ball item I grabbed because I found myself short on eating time.
Main foods:
ground beef
steak
cheeses
eggs
celery (cut out now because I have discovered an allergy)
pumpkin
broccoli
sausage
bacon
almonds
asparagus
olive oil
About the sodium, it’s like this. I suspect I was having some mild symptoms of adrenal problems before I started the diet. I didn’t recognize it for that at the time.
When I started the AD (4 weeks ago, I restarted due to a serious miscalculation in carbs the first 2 week period) I was taking liver tablets with my meals. I believed I had some anemia like symptoms including low blood pressure and possibly low blood volume.
I have a moderately active job at a store with no air conditioning. I have to wear a long sleeve shirt and dress pants, plus a vest. I sweat a lot. The liver tablets caused diarrhea and between that, the hot weather, and ketosis I was dehydrating pretty bad. I replaced my fluids with bottled water for the most part, and a lot of it.
I was having trouble sleeping and experiencing some palpitations in my heart. I associated this with a need for potassium since I had read years back that potassium supplementation is often necessary when switching to a low carb diet.
I started supplementing with potassium and switched to a salt-substitute instead of salt for my food. This gave the illusion of improvement for a few days but then I wound up all the worse. During this time I may have exacerbated the adrenal problem by really pushing my limits in the gym, while having sleep troubles and making a diet change.
When I finally decided I ought to switch things around and load up on sodium to bolster my adrenals and keep me hydrated and closer to alkaline I was pretty messed up. That was three or four days ago.
I am feeling a bit better now since adding about 1/8 - 1/4 teaspoon of sea salt to most of my water bottles and taking some supplements that are good for the adrenals.
Carb-up begins…WOO HOO!!!
There is a 20-30 pound difference in my squats if i do it around carb ups. Im focusing on 5x5 and squating 3x a week so could i carb up a bit…say a banana the day that i do legs?
[quote]IL Cazzo wrote:
Joe Daley wrote:
How does this diet fare cost wise, compared to other diets, what with the premium price of most protein/fat combinations?
The egg is your friend. Seriously, they are cheep and just about perfect. Granted, beef, chicken and olive oil are usually expensive, although you aren’t spending money on juice, milk, bread, pasta, etc during the week.
I use fish oil and ground flax seeds along with Metabolic Drive! and ON Whey.
Honestly, I’ve been eating like this for so long that I don’t remember how much it used to cost to eat a high carb diet.[/quote]
for me, eggs are 2.59 for 1.5 dozen which last me 3 days if i eat 6 a day. Isnt exactly that cheap…cheaper than red meat though
Hi, I’m new here but I’ve been on the Anabolic diet for a while now. I’m mostly on bodybuilding.com but lurk here at t nation sometimes.
Anyway, I’m cutting and doing 1 day carb ups on Sunday. I was wondering if it’d be okay to have donuts, pizza, and ice cream tomorrow. I’ve asked this question over at bodybuilding.com and they said that’s okay since I’m doing a 1 day carb up. But I just wanted some more opinions. Thanks!
[quote]initialize wrote:
Hi, I’m new here but I’ve been on the Anabolic diet for a while now. I’m mostly on bodybuilding.com but lurk here at t nation sometimes.
Anyway, I’m cutting and doing 1 day carb ups on Sunday. I was wondering if it’d be okay to have donuts, pizza, and ice cream tomorrow. I’ve asked this question over at bodybuilding.com and they said that’s okay since I’m doing a 1 day carb up. But I just wanted some more opinions. Thanks![/quote]
hye man im over there too! Importrev
http://www.T-Nation.com/tmagnum/readTopic.do?id=2108681
Scroll down to Christian Thib (sp) and youll see that he recommends a carb up MEAL if you are over a certain BF.
[quote]initialize wrote:
Hi, I’m new here but I’ve been on the Anabolic diet for a while now. I’m mostly on bodybuilding.com but lurk here at t nation sometimes.
Anyway, I’m cutting and doing 1 day carb ups on Sunday. I was wondering if it’d be okay to have donuts, pizza, and ice cream tomorrow. I’ve asked this question over at bodybuilding.com and they said that’s okay since I’m doing a 1 day carb up. But I just wanted some more opinions. Thanks![/quote]
I don’t think this would be a good idea because you would not be matching the macronutrient proportion break down closely enough. All of that junk food is going to have a lot of fat in it and will put your daily fat to carb ratio higher than it should be.
The weekend is supposed to be low-moderate fat, high carb, moderate protein. A little junk is ok, but you need to keep the carbs up and keep the fat kind of lowish. This is true for everyone, but even more so when you are trying to cut I believe.
Hi all,
I really like this question answered if possible. I’ve been using the search engine for days trying to find the answer.
This is my dilemma with bulking on the AD.
For example, given I am on a 3500 kcal diet, my low carb days are as follows:
Fat 60% 226
Carbs 30g/day
Protein 40% 340
For a male that only weighs 78 kg (172 pounds), for some reason the protein intake just seems excessive.
The problem is such that if I increase the fat intake, this is a lot higher than Dr MD’s recommendations, 60-70% range.
Thanks for your time.
[quote]andyr wrote:
Hi all,
I really like this question answered if possible. I’ve been using the search engine for days trying to find the answer.
This is my dilemma with bulking on the AD.
For example, given I am on a 3500 kcal diet, my low carb days are as follows:
Fat 60% 226
Carbs 30g/day
Protein 40% 340
For a male that only weighs 78 kg (172 pounds), for some reason the protein intake just seems excessive.
The problem is such that if I increase the fat intake, this is a lot higher than Dr MD’s recommendations, 60-70% range.
Thanks for your time. [/quote]
IMO, if you are looking to build with some muscle you need to provide the proteins to build muscle with. Your body can’t turn fat into muscle. Upping just the fat intake will likely result in fat gain since thats your energy source and it would be in excess.
In short, Up the cals in the same proportions.