The way I interpret the diet, I don’t think one carb meal is sufficient (the body needs carbs to avoid catabolism!), but I take your point about quality carbs. I’ve never experienced such poor control as I have on carb days on this diet! I loose it. I think I’m going to try 90% clean carbs both days for the next month or so and see what happens.
I plotted out muscle mass gains on a chart today and I am getting a gradual increase there too, so that could account for a litte of the weight gain.
What’s the go with Splenda? Is it ok to have? I saw it mentioned a while back but couldn’t work out whether it was ok or not… I’m having a little with cream in coffee…
The way I interpret the diet, I don’t think one carb meal is sufficient (the body needs carbs to avoid catabolism!), but I take your point about quality carbs. I’ve never experienced such poor control as I have on carb days on this diet! I loose it. I think I’m going to try 90% clean carbs both days for the next month or so and see what happens.
I plotted out muscle mass gains on a chart today and I am getting a gradual increase there too, so that could account for a litte of the weight gain.
What’s the go with Splenda? Is it ok to have? I saw it mentioned a while back but couldn’t work out whether it was ok or not… I’m having a little with cream in coffee…
paige [/quote]
Splenda is fine, just use moderation.
One carb meal a week is a fine idea for a cutting diet, but IS NOT the AD. When I trim down I do one carb meal every three/four days, which the Doc recommends for fat loss.
However, if you have not been doing the diet for awhile, I would suggest sticking to 6 days low/ 1 day carb. Plenty of people have lost fat that way. Once you have been doing the diet for some months, tinker.
The way I interpret the diet, I don’t think one carb meal is sufficient (the body needs carbs to avoid catabolism!), but I take your point about quality carbs. I’ve never experienced such poor control as I have on carb days on this diet! I loose it. I think I’m going to try 90% clean carbs both days for the next month or so and see what happens.
I plotted out muscle mass gains on a chart today and I am getting a gradual increase there too, so that could account for a litte of the weight gain.
What’s the go with Splenda? Is it ok to have? I saw it mentioned a while back but couldn’t work out whether it was ok or not… I’m having a little with cream in coffee…
paige [/quote]
To tell you the truth I get up to 60g of carbs per day. I am not really interested in being fat adapted but if it happens it won’t hurt. If you are worried about catabolism then have a carb meal every three days or something like that and make sure it is clean so you can stop at one good meal, also make sure it is the last meal of the day and you go to sleep afterwards. The AD is a blue print for ketogenic dieting…just makes you understand it better but I do what works for me(physically and psychologically).
I use Splenda in my diet when drinking coffee BUT remember that my goal isn’t really to be fat adapted as long as I am seeing results which so far have been 14 pounds of water, glycogen and fat in 15 days with a carb meal included.
The way I interpret the diet, I don’t think one carb meal is sufficient (the body needs carbs to avoid catabolism!), but I take your point about quality carbs. I’ve never experienced such poor control as I have on carb days on this diet! I loose it. I think I’m going to try 90% clean carbs both days for the next month or so and see what happens.
I plotted out muscle mass gains on a chart today and I am getting a gradual increase there too, so that could account for a litte of the weight gain.
What’s the go with Splenda? Is it ok to have? I saw it mentioned a while back but couldn’t work out whether it was ok or not… I’m having a little with cream in coffee…
paige
To tell you the truth I get up to 60g of carbs per day. I am not really interested in being fat adapted but if it happens it won’t hurt. If you are worried about catabolism then have a carb meal every three days or something like that and make sure it is clean so you can stop at one good meal, also make sure it is the last meal of the day and you go to sleep afterwards. The AD is a blue print for ketogenic dieting…just makes you understand it better but I do what works for me(physically and psychologically).
I use Splenda in my diet when drinking coffee BUT remember that my goal isn’t really to be fat adapted as long as I am seeing results which so far have been 14 pounds of water, glycogen and fat in 15 days with a carb meal included.[/quote]
yea being in ketosis isnt really necessary, with low carbs and high fat your still utilizing a lot of fat from what i know. where do you get 60g of carbs from if your not eating carb meals?
i found last time i did a keto diet i ended up getting about 40-60g of carbs just from the nuts, cheeses, etc…
The way I interpret the diet, I don’t think one carb meal is sufficient (the body needs carbs to avoid catabolism!), but I take your point about quality carbs. I’ve never experienced such poor control as I have on carb days on this diet! I loose it. I think I’m going to try 90% clean carbs both days for the next month or so and see what happens.
I plotted out muscle mass gains on a chart today and I am getting a gradual increase there too, so that could account for a litte of the weight gain.
What’s the go with Splenda? Is it ok to have? I saw it mentioned a while back but couldn’t work out whether it was ok or not… I’m having a little with cream in coffee…
paige
To tell you the truth I get up to 60g of carbs per day. I am not really interested in being fat adapted but if it happens it won’t hurt. If you are worried about catabolism then have a carb meal every three days or something like that and make sure it is clean so you can stop at one good meal, also make sure it is the last meal of the day and you go to sleep afterwards. The AD is a blue print for ketogenic dieting…just makes you understand it better but I do what works for me(physically and psychologically).
I use Splenda in my diet when drinking coffee BUT remember that my goal isn’t really to be fat adapted as long as I am seeing results which so far have been 14 pounds of water, glycogen and fat in 15 days with a carb meal included.
yea being in ketosis isnt really necessary, with low carbs and high fat your still utilizing a lot of fat from what i know. where do you get 60g of carbs from if your not eating carb meals?
i found last time i did a keto diet i ended up getting about 40-60g of carbs just from the nuts, cheeses, etc…[/quote]
Mostly from things like egg beaters, splenda, coffee, diet drinks, vegetables, beef jerkey and nuts.
I’ve cut out nuts. I get paranoid if I’m even close to 30grams a day. I eat bacon, eggs, steak, a big salad for lunch and heaps of cabbage and spinach and cauliflower for dinner. And low-cal jelly and cream. That usually brings me in at 20 or so. Strawberries are great! Low carb if you count net carbs and really hit the sweet spot Hmmmm…stawberries and cream…
I think a lot of people overestimate their caloric requirements. Doc gives recommendations in the book, but i think these are somewhat extreme. Go with what worked for you. If somebody consumed 3K cals to maintain weight and after reading about ‘metabolic advantage’ the Doc mentions about starts eating 4-5K - no wonder he is gaining fat. I’ve done the same mistake. And it is very easy to $$ck-up on the carb loading phase. It is exactly it - carb-load, not junk-load.
i agree, with what i’ve followed people seem to be looking to this diet as a way to eat crap. i think it’s good in that you can get away with some more junk than normal but people just binging on cake and donuts every time all day is just stupid IMO
ha ha i concur! ive been on for just 2 yeaars now so now for carbs i just have brocolli and ill have a cup of milk with my PWO shake for my daily intake. as for my carb ups i just eat a hefty clean meal when ever i get hungry. mostly rice and berries…but yea of course if im at a party or chillin with friends or havin dinner with my girls family ill throw in some junk…but yea…gorging on donuts and such you know a huge surge of sugars doesnt negate the shit like trans fat and ingrediants like high fructose corn syrup that do nothin but shit to your body. Think people!
Other than the amount of carbs in Surge, are there other reasons to not drink Surge PWO while on the AD? I’m considering taking Surge, but at only 1/2 the dose (23 carbs) PWO, but want to make sure there are not other aspects of why Surge is so effective that might be inconsistent with the science behind the AD.
Other than the amount of carbs in Surge, are there other reasons to not drink Surge PWO while on the AD? I’m considering taking Surge, but at only 1/2 the dose (23 carbs) PWO, but want to make sure there are not other aspects of why Surge is so effective that might be inconsistent with the science behind the AD.
Is there anyone currently bulking on the Anabolic Diet? I have been on the AD for 3 months (2 months 18x, 1 month 20x). I guess the reason, I tried the Anabolic Diet was to see for myself whether the low-carb, high-fat claims were true - indeed they were.
I am still new to weight lifting, would it be better as a beginner to do a traditional clean bulk (brocolli, brown rice, lean chicken breast)? (Note, I have the discipline to do both life styles quite easily)
I like the AD, in that I have more consistent energy, and less mood swings throughout the day. I also think taking dextrose PWO, feels somewhat wrong. At the moment, I am doing a 4 day full body routine, and finding as the week progresses my workout is suffering (I can’t go at 100%). The AD also seems more expensive bulking as I am buying a LOT of meat and eggs - no whey however.
I’ve weighed the pro’s and con’s of both diets and at crossroads with it, but wondering what your opinions on the matter is from - that applies to beginners.
Is there anyone currently bulking on the Anabolic Diet? I have been on the AD for 3 months (2 months 18x, 1 month 20x). I guess the reason, I tried the Anabolic Diet was to see for myself whether the low-carb, high-fat claims were true - indeed they were.
I am still new to weight lifting, would it be better as a beginner to do a traditional clean bulk (brocolli, brown rice, lean chicken breast)? (Note, I have the discipline to do both life styles quite easily)
I like the AD, in that I have more consistent energy, and less mood swings throughout the day. I also think taking dextrose PWO, feels somewhat wrong. At the moment, I am doing a 4 day full body routine, and finding as the week progresses my workout is suffering (I can’t go at 100%). The AD also seems more expensive bulking as I am buying a LOT of meat and eggs - no whey however.
I’ve weighed the pro’s and con’s of both diets and at crossroads with it, but wondering what your opinions on the matter is from - that applies to beginners.
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Considering you have been on it for three months, I would stick with it. I have always bulked using this diet with great success. If you stick with it and stay disciplined you can put on a fair amount of mass without the accompanying fat.
Is there anyone currently bulking on the Anabolic Diet? I have been on the AD for 3 months (2 months 18x, 1 month 20x). I guess the reason, I tried the Anabolic Diet was to see for myself whether the low-carb, high-fat claims were true - indeed they were.
I am still new to weight lifting, would it be better as a beginner to do a traditional clean bulk (brocolli, brown rice, lean chicken breast)? (Note, I have the discipline to do both life styles quite easily)
I like the AD, in that I have more consistent energy, and less mood swings throughout the day. I also think taking dextrose PWO, feels somewhat wrong. At the moment, I am doing a 4 day full body routine, and finding as the week progresses my workout is suffering (I can’t go at 100%). The AD also seems more expensive bulking as I am buying a LOT of meat and eggs - no whey however.
I’ve weighed the pro’s and con’s of both diets and at crossroads with it, but wondering what your opinions on the matter is from - that applies to beginners.
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they can both work. personally i think lower carbs with help most people stay leaner but that doesnt have to be the AD. maybe you should try a TKD, that seems to make more sense when bulking anyway
Thanks for the replies. I’ve decided I’m gonna stick with this life style for 6 months and see how I go (2 months maintenance + 4 months bulk).
I’ve read a bit about TKD and it seems a bit more difficult to follow than the AD. I really like the 2 days carb up on the Anabolic Diet, as thats when I go out and like to eat my carbs.
Just a few questions. How important is splitting meals up on the Anabolic Diet, both on low carb and high carb days?
I’ve read about people eating 3 times a day with snacks, others eating 6-8 times a day. I must admit, I’ve only been eating 3500kcal at 4 meals a day, and only 3 massive meals on carb ups.
Also, as a beginner, can I just use any routine on the AD. Or do I need to redesign it to take advantage of the increased strength the day after the carb up. My friday workouts really sux on full body.
I know this 30g limit is only a guide line, but I eat a lot of eggs (12-15 a day) and cheese (150g), and finding it very easy to get up to this limit. Even 32g of WPI has about 4g of carbs. Does anyone else find it hard to keep under 30g?
Whats the best way to load up on creatine mono on the Anabolic Diet?
Do I just do the normal 20g of creatine for breakfast for 5 days, and then 5g PWO on training days only?
Also has anyone read Lyle McDonald’s The Ketogenic Diet book. I know Dr MD doesn’t like to describe his diet as a CKD, but Lyle does not seem to think CKD diets are optimal for muscle gain or putting mass (Chapter 28). Meh I don’t know what to think anymore, guess I’ll see how I go after another 3 months…
[quote]andyr wrote:
I got a question, sorry if its been asked.
Whats the best way to load up on creatine mono on the Anabolic Diet?
Do I just do the normal 20g of creatine for breakfast for 5 days, and then 5g PWO on training days only?
Also has anyone read Lyle McDonald’s The Ketogenic Diet book. I know Dr MD doesn’t like to describe his diet as a CKD, but Lyle does not seem to think CKD diets are optimal for muscle gain or putting mass (Chapter 28). Meh I don’t know what to think anymore, guess I’ll see how I go after another 3 months…[/quote]
i say quit thinking so much and read the prescription and take the lifestyle as prescribed.
Hmmmm…stawberries and cream…