My Experience On the Anabolic Diet

http://www.metabolicdiet.com/promo/as_abr.htm

SO the anabolic solution is the same as the anabolic diet… THanks, I wasnt sure about that

[quote]evitagen wrote:
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alright so muenster cheese and almonds is F-ing delicious however, im mildly lactose intolerant and puff up after such a snack…so im in a pickle being a waiter, and only having a break for the bathroom or when i go in to clean once an hour, i sneak i n my snack, but this time id like to not be puffy. so anyone got some pocket sized calorically dense snacks

[quote]bkmacky9288 wrote:
alright so muenster cheese and almonds is F-ing delicious however, im mildly lactose intolerant and puff up after such a snack…so im in a pickle being a waiter, and only having a break for the bathroom or when i go in to clean once an hour, i sneak i n my snack, but this time id like to not be puffy. so anyone got some pocket sized calorically dense snacks[/quote]

Try dicing up some bacon, frying it up and when it’s halfway cooked add walnuts or brazil nuts - let 'em all cook up in the baconfat.

Probably won’t be as filling as cheese, but it’ll get your cals up there for sure. :slight_smile:

If I think of anything else I’ll let you know.

Day 12. Will be carbing up sunday. Feeling generally pretty weak/tired, which I imagine is due to not eating carbs for 12 days.

What I have learned so far:

I could live on EVOO. I would simply fill a canteen and take long pulls throughout the day.

I miss oatmeal.

Hard-boiled eggs, when done correctly, somehow taste a bit like cake.

I’m not eating chicken anymore. Fuck chicken.

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Done the first carb-up!!! and it did not go well at all… Just did the one day to see how i react to different stuff. Definitely screwed on the fruit bit, but hopefully the various veggies made up for it.
The days take was…

Breakfast: 1 small bowl of flax cereal.

Lunch: 1 Grilled Mediterranean Veggie Pita w/ Balsamic dressing (whole mess o’ veggies in there)

Snack: 1 waffle ice cream cone --umm umm good

Dinner: Half Grilled Veg Foccacia Sandwich + Half Fried Chicken Sandwich (Mom’s) + Side of steamed veggies

Post Dinner: 1 Waffle ice cream cone

Thoughts: I started filling out after the last ice cream and thought that it was the end of the carb-up, but could still see veins on my arms and stomach. Woke up sunday and looked smoother but all the veins were back after some caffeine…so i dont know what to make of it…


Anyone? any critique is welcome?
I carb-up again tomorrow and am going to experiment with a 36 hours carb load, fruits and simple CHO early on and then High GI CHO till sunday afternoon.

If anyone who’s somewhat experienced with this diet/keto i’d appreciate u checking out my post here http://www.T-

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[quote]Galen wrote:
bkmacky9288 wrote:
alright so muenster cheese and almonds is F-ing delicious however, im mildly lactose intolerant and puff up after such a snack…so im in a pickle being a waiter, and only having a break for the bathroom or when i go in to clean once an hour, i sneak i n my snack, but this time id like to not be puffy. so anyone got some pocket sized calorically dense snacks

Try dicing up some bacon, frying it up and when it’s halfway cooked add walnuts or brazil nuts - let 'em all cook up in the baconfat.

Probably won’t be as filling as cheese, but it’ll get your cals up there for sure. :slight_smile:

If I think of anything else I’ll let you know.[/quote]

really appreciate it that sounds pretty tasty actually:) thanks a bunch

I thought of something else in a mad scientist moment. Please keep in mind that while the theory is sound this has not been attempted by me or anyone else that I am aware of. So experiment at your own risk.

Take a scoop of whey
some butter
some very very finely crushed/food pro’d nuts
some splenda (optional)
cinnamon

mix it all up until you’ve got a fairly thick batter - something you can make balls out of and it will stay. Make cookies or balls or stick in a loaf pan…whichever method sings to you.

Bake high and fast. Again, I haven’t tried this (but I’m definitely going to) so you’ll have to either keep an eye on it the first time you make it or just close your eyes, set the timer for a random number, and trust the universe.

The good part about this is even if it falls apart, it’ll still probably be pretty tasty albeit a bit messier. :slight_smile:

Good luck, should anyone decide to try this before I get to it!

Hi people!

It’s been a long time since i posted in this thread. How’s everybody? In single digits bf already? lol

Ok, i’ve been experimenting with AD for last few months. I tried switching to NHe, which basically implies the same low-carb rules, only you have your carb-ups each 3rd and 4th days of the week (i.e. Wednesday and Sunday) and carb-ups are only 1-2 last meals of the day consisting of ~100g of carbs. After that i tried carbing on each 5th day the same way (a few last meals) regardless of which day of the week it is. The main reason for it is that it is hard for me to eat clean on the AD style carb up days, i allow myself eat a lot of junk and each time i do it i feel extremely guilty :slight_smile:

Right now i am cutting and i went down to 2100 cals a day from ~3300-3500. I got rid of first 5kg (~10lbs) very quickly and now i am fighting with last stubborn 5-6lbs. I hope i will get rid of them as well in the next 3-4 weeks.

I currently use CTs “Destroying Fat” routine which is brutal. I hate those lactic acid wor-outs, if somebody knows what i am talking about :slight_smile: I have only one week left of this routine and haven’t decided yet what to use next. While on the mass phase, i tried ABBH and TBT, then i started cutting phase with 10x3 for fat-loss. I am thinking about EDT or maybe Quattro Dynamo.

Currently, i am not sure if i need to change my carb-up scheme. All in all, i consume about 200g crabs per 5 day (plus ~15-20 on low-carb days which come almost only from broccoli/lettuce). What you guys think? Too little?

[quote]Zluke wrote:
Hi people!

It’s been a long time since i posted in this thread. How’s everybody? In single digits bf already? lol

Ok, i’ve been experimenting with AD for last few months. I tried switching to NHe, which basically implies the same low-carb rules, only you have your carb-ups each 3rd and 4th days of the week (i.e. Wednesday and Sunday) and carb-ups are only 1-2 last meals of the day consisting of ~100g of carbs. After that i tried carbing on each 5th day the same way (a few last meals) regardless of which day of the week it is. The main reason for it is that it is hard for me to eat clean on the AD style carb up days, i allow myself eat a lot of junk and each time i do it i feel extremely guilty :slight_smile:

Right now i am cutting and i went down to 2100 cals a day from ~3300-3500. I got rid of first 5kg (~10lbs) very quickly and now i am fighting with last stubborn 5-6lbs. I hope i will get rid of them as well in the next 3-4 weeks.

I currently use CTs “Destroying Fat” routine which is brutal. I hate those lactic acid wor-outs, if somebody knows what i am talking about :slight_smile: I have only one week left of this routine and haven’t decided yet what to use next. While on the mass phase, i tried ABBH and TBT, then i started cutting phase with 10x3 for fat-loss. I am thinking about EDT or maybe Quattro Dynamo.

Currently, i am not sure if i need to change my carb-up scheme. All in all, i consume about 200g crabs per 5 day (plus ~15-20 on low-carb days which come almost only from broccoli/lettuce). What you guys think? Too little?[/quote]

I’ve found that when I drop calories significantly, like you have done, fat loss is fast for a while then stops completely. Not what you’re asking, of course, but I lose more fat more easily on more calories, with a rebel yell.

In AD news: I had oatmeal this morning! I plan to eat clean carbs for the rest of the day with the exception of some chinese take-out with the old man. I’ve been feeling pretty carb depleted the past few days, and am glad I will be on the weekly carb-up from now on. I anticipate good things.

I’ve been cutting on the AD for 10 weeks now, and I just have 3 weeks left - I’ve lost 17lbs so pretty pleased so far. Then I plan to start bulking. I’m going to tweak my calorie intake to maintain a steady weight gain. What weekly weight gain should I be aiming for? I currently weigh 168lbs, am 5’ 10" tall. This will be my first bulking cycle so any guidance would be appreciated. I’m planning on doing 8 weeks bulk, followed by a 4 week cut - then repeat. I’m worried about gaining fat as it’s been a long long road (18 months) to lose 90+lbs.

The more time you give yourself in each phase on this diet, the better. It all works brilliantly if you’ve got the patience. What I would suggest, mainly because it is going to be my strategy for my next bulk is to increase your cals by about 500, and re-assess every week, adding a hundred to a couple hundred calories every week until you notice your first fat gains and then back off a little.

My next bulk is going to be the one where I really dial all my stuff in and make every phase as clean as possible.

Again though, that’s just my suggestion. I’m cutting right now at about 2500 cals and am still gaining muscle/strength while I drop fat so depending on how long this lasts, I may just keep this up until my bf has gone as low as it can. :slight_smile:

If you want to do it that way, I’d say that everyone definitely has a magic number of calories with the AD.

Galen how long have u lifted? and how long have u had a good diet (not just AD)?

I’ve had a good diet for the last six years or so, having come down from 300 lbs in high school.

I started lifting in high school for the football team but up until about six months ago I had been going back and forth between heavy lifting and a crossfit-type workout (which included everything from actual crossfit to a series of SEAL prep workouts) depending on how I felt. My goals were just to get in great cardio and what I call ‘bodyweight’ shape and I didn’t care too much about getting bigger or being able to throw around hundreds of lbs.

So this last time my mood changed and I started lifting heavy, I reached a really cool meditative state during my lifting sessions so I’ve decided to stick with it and see where it can lead for me long term. :slight_smile:

So to answer your question I’ve been an on-and-off lifter for the last 8 or so years without really doing heavy research into what I was doing and how to do it until about a year ago. So I’ve decided to make it a lifestyle like the AD and get my PT cert when I get back to Canada.

Having never bulked, I really don’t know what an acceptable fat gain is. I know I need to have a calorie surprlus to bulk properly, and that I will add some fat as well as muscle, but I don’t know how much. I am planning on adding a few cals to my daily total each week until I hit a target weekly weight gain - and that’s the question really…the gain I should be aiming for? It’s going to be hard to tell by looking in the mirror. I was hoping to go by the scales.

I’ve been training for about 9 months, but cutting/dieting for most of this time, so as a result I’m not particularly muscular. I want to add muscle (I train 5 times a week), but not too much fat (like everyone else - hehe). I know it’s not an easy question to answer, but is a 2lb weekly gain too much (i.e. would that be too much fat compared to potential muscle gains)?

[quote]appro wrote:
Having never bulked, I really don’t know what an acceptable fat gain is. I know I need to have a calorie surprlus to bulk properly, and that I will add some fat as well as muscle, but I don’t know how much. I am planning on adding a few cals to my daily total each week until I hit a target weekly weight gain - and that’s the question really…the gain I should be aiming for? It’s going to be hard to tell by looking in the mirror. I was hoping to go by the scales.

I’ve been training for about 9 months, but cutting/dieting for most of this time, so as a result I’m not particularly muscular. I want to add muscle (I train 5 times a week), but not too much fat (like everyone else - hehe). I know it’s not an easy question to answer, but is a 2lb weekly gain too much (i.e. would that be too much fat compared to potential muscle gains)?[/quote]

its individual. i’ve never been on this diet but generally the lower the gains the “cleaner” they are, if u gain 1lb. a week u can probably gain almost all muscle, if u gain 3 a week you’ll almost definitely have at least a pound of fat gained.

Something about carbs…I notice in his sample diets he’ll throw in a slice of bread or something. also some people say since ur allowed upto 30g carbs get some after the workout

but with my diet even with only 2800 calories i couldnt get it that low even without carb foods. i only had about 6% of calories from carbs but that still came out to like 42g of carbs from nuts, eggs, etc…

anyone else?

What’s the ratio of P:F:C for the carb-ups? I’m on day 12 of the induction phase and I am trying to figure out the ratios so that I try to keep it as controlled as possible.
Anyone?