[quote]roberds wrote:
I posted this in the regular forum accidentally. Here it is:
Been on the diet about 6 weeks and have really leaned down. I am afraid to admit this, however, I will for the sake of doing things right.
The last two weeks have been horrible. Was out of town twice…ate shitty. Went on a mini-vacation…ate shitty. I still did my mon-tues carb ups. Basically, in the last two weeks I probably ate 6-7 “cheat meals”, not including my carb ups days. Is this enough to pull my body out of “fat burning mode”? Should I do the 12 day shift again?
The reason I ask is because I got strick on the carbs again last Wed. and felt crappy until my carb up yesterday.
Thanks
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I’'d recommend doing the 12 days over…it wouldnt kill ya…aonother recommendation would be to have AD friendly snacks, cheese, nuts, boil some eggs. I bought a mini cooler just for those types of occasions.
[quote]ronaldo7 wrote:
CJK wrote:
Lions Pride 21 wrote:
alright guys, i askin for your help. Im 3 weeks into the A.D. This week I started dropping kcals to 2000. I started at 6’1, 196 pounds. I am now 192 pounds. The carb ups have been awesome actually…because I love carbs. The thing is I am lanky and not a bodybuilder, but I utilize strength training and hypertrophy training to 1. make me look buffer and 2. be a better athlete.
I want to look good for the summer and right now I don’t have clear abs but my body is overall toned. I guess that would put me at 16% I look athletic but probably skinny fat on t-man standards. I want to be leaner, but I feel so weak right now and I can see that my muscles have shrunk and my strength is WAY down. Would saying fuck it and eating excess cals in the area of 3000 make sense or be too risky with the summer coming up?
My honest opinion? Fuck the summer abs. Seriously, there are a lot of summers to come. If you skip this one summer and dedicate yourself to gaining and getting stronger, you will get a lot more impressive faster. Gain until NEXT summer and look sweet, instead of looking mediocre for this summer, and honest probably the next several summers.
my .02
Aye. I agree. Fuck the summer abs!![/quote]
AGREED!! Fuck abs until the muscle is there, living on this lifestyle is the best way to put on the muscle whilst staying relavtively lean, once you’ve put on those slabs of muscle, it’ll be that much easier to get shredded
[quote]ironjoe wrote:
Just finished day 12. I haven’t had a hard crash yet, I’ve been sleepy a few days in a row, but no crash. Workouts have been normal. I’ve double checked all my carbs/fat/protein ratio’s and I’m dead on and even under for carbs. So how do know that I’ve actually made the switch? Will Keyto sticks work?[/quote]
I wouldn’t worry about it…I’ve made a few runs at the diet (been on for a loooong time now), and have never experienced the “crash”. I think it gets blown out of proportion…and I’m sure it has a lot to do with the individual, and you and I just might be better suited to making the “switch”.
I can say w/ experience that A.D. WILL work It won’t, of course, duplicate steroids (as I said in my post re:) but it will work.
After a week of -30gr carb per day try slamming a dozen or so glazed doughnuts. The insulin spike damn near puts me into a coma, but it does exactly as Dr Mauro says and has a dramatic positive effect on the hormones that cause anabolism.
[quote]TheAnabolicDiet wrote:
I can say w/ experience that A.D. WILL work It won’t, of course, duplicate steroids (as I said in my post re:) but it will work.
After a week of -30gr carb per day try slamming a dozen or so glazed doughnuts. The insulin spike damn near puts me into a coma, but it does exactly as Dr Mauro says and has a dramatic positive effect on the hormones that cause anabolism.[/quote]
I’m on Day 3 of the initial 12 days of low carbs, and I’m really looking forward to the first carb-up weekend - kinda wishing I could do it this coming up weekend, but I’ll stick with the suggested initial 12 days.
So far, absolutely no issues from the <30g carbs.
Given the timing of the hormone kick…is there any particular time I should stay away from having “relations” to avoid embarrassing moments?
Don’t exactly understand on what you mean but I always wake up w/ wood for 2-3 after carb loading < clear sign of elevated Test levels.
I never figured manipulating carb/protein intake could have such a dramatic effect on hormone levels. If Dr Mauro says something IS then I’d beleive it w/out reservation…now.
[quote]TheAnabolicDiet wrote:
Don’t exactly understand on what you mean but I always wake up w/ wood for 2-3 after carb loading < clear sign of elevated Test levels. [/quote]
I normally have this, but after the carb up I have multiple morning wood occasions. Like, first waking up at 6:30, wood, goes away as I get up for a drink of water whatever, go back to sleep until 7:30 or 8, round two wood.
[quote]TheAnabolicDiet wrote:
Don’t exactly understand on what you mean but I always wake up w/ wood for 2-3 after carb loading < clear sign of elevated Test levels.[/quote]
What I meant was, does T ever drop (temporarily) due to these carb/fat manipulations. Or is it more like a high spike, then gradual return to normal. The higher fat content alone should improve T production to begin with…
Yeah, that fascinates me. And I agree - Dr. Mauro is the authority. I actually have his original book+video from the early 90’s, back then under OTS. I never got around to trying the diet until now though (I have more discipline as I get older).
So u’ve decided to stop cutting? I mean… you’re saying ‘fuck abs’ I was just wondering how your fat-loss was going.[/quote]
well i got down to my in season wrestling weight 169-170 but my strength sucked and i have an ego thats tries to jump out of my body because it cant take not kicking ass all the time…but during season i had cals around 2700-3000 and lost weight…and that was with non-sequential weightlifting, just body weight activities, and a bunch of anaerobics(probably spelled wrong dont care).
then a few weeks post season i stopped all that running and just concentrated on the weights and low and behold i got bigger but didnt quite lose all my water weight lets just say weekly…so anywho i believe if i keep up with cardio and throw the iron aorund ill still lose fat nd perhaps get stronger taking in 2700-3000 cals…we will see o and yea fuck abs…most withem are skinny bastards who wouldnt start shit with shit so boo ya
o and to go on…ive never been too good at getting down to a nice % bodyfat(6-11%) no matter how low i go i hit a spot…and then after that spot my body is too worn to ccontinue and i start falling back…so yea i dont think being ripped is for me ill always be around 15% (via my pic i really dont know i just check out my pics acompared to others)…
Day 3 for me. I finished all leftover meat from Sat. night grill session, so today I bought 1 lb of broiled scallops - only to realize that there is almost no fat in them - so they took a little bath in olive oil.
Still going with the standard 6+ eggs + pile of bacon breakfasts. For carbs, broccoli basically. I just picked up a can of a fiber product (100% psyllium husk powder) in the “embarrassing” section of the store. It says 6g total carbs, and it’s all fiber (dietary fiber = 6 per serving, soluble fiber 5g). So I take it none of it counts toward the 30g.
Loving it so far, not missing carbs one bit (though I’ll have to figure out what to do with the beer in my fridge).
alright guys…thanks for your advice…What I will do is continue to bust my ass in the gym…increase overall exercise levels and wave calories. Staying under 2700 throughout the week…I am 195 pounds about 14% b.f. as previously stated…I will go M-F with calories as low as 1500 at rock bottom and 2700 at peak, with the other 3 around 2000 all sub 30 grams of carbs.
And I will enjoy my carb ups…This way I feel lean enough during the week and I can enjoy eating big on the weekends. I still look good with a shirt off now, I just wanna turn heads with a better midsection for once…just for a feel…but I need my strength…gotta hit those homeruns
hey guys thanks for the advice. Im going to wave the calories during the week. Going anywhere from 2000-2700, which will keep me losing fat. But on my weekend carb ups I will do work in the kitchen and eat a lot. I will adjust from there but I have to keep my strength. Gotta hit those homers.
[quote]Ad B wrote:
ronaldo7 wrote:
CJK wrote:
Lions Pride 21 wrote:
alright guys, i askin for your help. Im 3 weeks into the A.D. This week I started dropping kcals to 2000. I started at 6’1, 196 pounds. I am now 192 pounds. The carb ups have been awesome actually…because I love carbs. The thing is I am lanky and not a bodybuilder, but I utilize strength training and hypertrophy training to 1. make me look buffer and 2. be a better athlete.
I want to look good for the summer and right now I don’t have clear abs but my body is overall toned. I guess that would put me at 16% I look athletic but probably skinny fat on t-man standards. I want to be leaner, but I feel so weak right now and I can see that my muscles have shrunk and my strength is WAY down. Would saying fuck it and eating excess cals in the area of 3000 make sense or be too risky with the summer coming up?
My honest opinion? Fuck the summer abs. Seriously, there are a lot of summers to come. If you skip this one summer and dedicate yourself to gaining and getting stronger, you will get a lot more impressive faster. Gain until NEXT summer and look sweet, instead of looking mediocre for this summer, and honest probably the next several summers.
my .02
Aye. I agree. Fuck the summer abs!!
AGREED!! Fuck abs until the muscle is there, living on this lifestyle is the best way to put on the muscle whilst staying relavtively lean, once you’ve put on those slabs of muscle, it’ll be that much easier to get shredded[/quote]
[quote]MissaJC324 wrote:
George700dl wrote:
I just picked up a can of a fiber product (100% psyllium husk powder) in the “embarrassing” section of the store.
I just have to comment… this statement is hilarious (and so very, very true). [/quote]
Hi Missa, glad to see I entertained you;)
It turns out I picked up the exact product that Dr. DiPasquale recommends in the 1995 version of his book (Anabolic Diet by OTS). Now he sells his own fiber product where I think he squeezes in a few more grams of insoluable fiber in lieu of the soluable fiber - which from what I read SHOULD be counted as a carb…sort of. The serving on the stuff I bought says 6g fiber, 5g soluable. I’m basically counting 3 grams of carbs for that serving, just to be sure, since it’s kind of a gray area.
I just finished Day 3 of the 12 day phase, and went for a late night deadlift session. My pre-workout meal was 2 burger patties with provolone cheese and a pickle (they were huge patties). That was followed by a 30 minute nap (my 2nd favorite sport). I was expecting to have a rather lame training session, but I ended up with the follwing:
Plate deadlift (standing on a 2 inch plate):
135x8
225x4
315x2 belt on
405x1
515x1
590x1
Not exactly earth-shattering, but the last time I deadlifted/plate deadlifted I was about 270 and hitting similar numbers, now I’m down to 251.
then some wide grip cable rows (272 x 10 x 2sets)
and preacher curls for 3 sets of 8 or so
…and DB rear delts for 3 sets of 8
followed that up with 3 KFC thighs (took the skin off because of the bread crumbs+other hidden carbs) and a diet coke.
Then 36g of whey protein + fiber supplement (tastes a lot better than pure creatine monohydrate in water)
