Hey guys,
So I’ve made it through the first 30 pages or so… I was just wondering if this diet would be appropriate for a 15/16 year old? I’m pretty sure it says not for children, but in this case is children referring to those under 18, under 12, or…?
I was planning to use it to cut, while keeping the calories up and while gaining some muscle so I can be uber ripped for the pool opening. Then in the fall bulk tremendously til next year this time.
Thanks,
Matt
[quote]mattchew wrote:
Hey guys,
So I’ve made it through the first 30 pages or so… I was just wondering if this diet would be appropriate for a 15/16 year old? I’m pretty sure it says not for children, but in this case is children referring to those under 18, under 12, or…?
I was planning to use it to cut, while keeping the calories up and while gaining some muscle so I can be uber ripped for the pool opening. Then in the fall bulk tremendously til next year this time.
Thanks,
Matt[/quote]
i believe youll be able to cope i think it children would refer to 14 and under. Just based on the induction of the diet and the whole metabolic shift.
[quote]bkmacky9288 wrote:
i believe youll be able to cope i think it children would refer to 14 and under. Just based on the induction of the diet and the whole metabolic shift.[/quote]
Okay, so that was more of a mental thing rather than physical effects?
With that… I think I am going to ask a ton of questions… (I’m kind of obsessive about planning things and having everything figured out)
Looks like people are sweating more, how much more is this? I tend to get some ass sweat going (yet I don’t really get it anywhere else despite my comparative hairiness) in school because I’m pretty shy and I start up when I get called on, especially in classes where I know almost no one. Kinda worried since I’ll be doing this as its getting warmer around here and I’m used to the cooler weather(I wear shorts and t-shirts all year)…
What about vitamins? I saw a page about vitamins in the book, I’m just trying to figure out how to get my vitamins in, specially calcium/and Vitamin D without milk (maybe I’ll get some low carb milk… boy, I need a job terribly). I’m thinking some multi-vitamins, ZMA, then some individual things with calcium/vitamin D as to not interfere with the absorption of other elements…
When I was talking with my mom she was worried about cholesterol because of our family history with heart disease and diabetes, even though I seem to be an anomaly in my family cause I’ve had perfect everything despite a relatively poor diet. I guess I’ll show her some of the references, plus all the anecdotal evidence?
How bad is the crash?.. I’m kinda worried about coming to school on some humongous test day and bam I’m out of it.
I’m confused about cardio… I think I remember him saying don’t do moderate intensity, and little HIIT to keep the glycogen stores. I have terrible endurance and I’d like to get my mile time down to around 6:30 by the end of July-ish (considering cross-country), this constitutes dropping about 3 minutes off my mile time, I guess actually running sometime would probably help…
I want to keep on the AD over the summer, but I’ve got camps where I’ll be eating at least moderate carbs for 5-7 days, will this take me off fat burning, and/or knock me out due to my not being used to carbs?
That was a lot… I’ll probably have more later, plus I’ll probably want y’all to look at my diet…
Thanks for your help!,
Matt
[quote]Zluke wrote:
conorh,
I’ve been reading the thread from the beginning and on the page 70+ right now. Glad to have someone who had been on the diet since the beginning on the thread. Welcome back![/quote]
Well, like I said, I haven’t been doing the AD in a long time, but I still think if you can afford it nd can man up and cook all the food, it’s the way to go.
On that note, it’s not even that it’s terribly expensive, but for me, personally, I cut weight like crazy on the AD and I can’t afford to eat enough protein food during the week to make up the difference. That, and it does require a certain amount of discipline to actually cook wholesome food, but that goes without saying.
I don’t want to rock the boat now, but after I get my spring powerlifting meets over with and start working more hours, I’ll take up the AD again.
Anyway, party hardy AD’ers.
Hi Guys
Great Thread. I’d like some input on my AD. I have only just started so any critique would be much appreciated.
Stats:
92kgs (202lbs approx)
BF probably around 16-17% at the moment
Training DC Style, with 30 minute moderate cardio on rest days.
Proposed AD:
1 - 4 whole eggs + 25gms butter + 4 pieces backon
2 - Whey yielding 55gms protein plus 30gms heavy cream, in water.
3 and 4 - 250grms mince (ground beef for you US folks) 2 slices cheddar cheese, salsa (about 5gms carbs per serve)
Train
5 - 250grams steak, green vegies (1 cup) 2 slices cheddar cheese
6 whey (as above with heavy cream)
Basically I need about 3600kcals according to the 18XBW equation. Its my first go at this so I’m hoping I get it right.
Thanks guys
Cheers from Australia!
Matt
[quote]Matt007 wrote:
Hi Guys
Great Thread. I’d like some input on my AD. I have only just started so any critique would be much appreciated.
Stats:
92kgs (202lbs approx)
BF probably around 16-17% at the moment
Training DC Style, with 30 minute moderate cardio on rest days.
Proposed AD:
1 - 4 whole eggs + 25gms butter + 4 pieces backon
2 - Whey yielding 55gms protein plus 30gms heavy cream, in water.
3 and 4 - 250grms mince (ground beef for you US folks) 2 slices cheddar cheese, salsa (about 5gms carbs per serve)
Train
5 - 250grams steak, green vegies (1 cup) 2 slices cheddar cheese
6 whey (as above with heavy cream)
Basically I need about 3600kcals according to the 18XBW equation. Its my first go at this so I’m hoping I get it right.
Thanks guys
Cheers from Australia!
Matt[/quote]
This is VERY similar to my general diet guidelines, however be careful about consuming too much sat fats and not enough mono/poly. get some nuts, olive oil, avocado, fish oil… a couple other sources of fat other than dairy/meat… otherwise it looks good to me!
Thanks for that, I should have mentioned I use olive oil dressing on salads, and with the evening steak usually have 50grams of almonds or walnuts instead of the cheese. I cook in olive oil as well.
I’d also planned on subbing the afternoon ground beef meal for 2 tins of tuna in olive oil 2 times a week for that very reason…
Would that go some way to solving the problem?
Or should I also add some fish oil caps to each meal? say 3 per meal?
[quote]Matt007 wrote:
Or should I also add some fish oil caps to each meal? say 3 per meal? [/quote]
I think all of these solutions are perfect. I am a big proponent of fish oil, especially on this diet. these additions will go a long way to getting your fats to a good balance.
Awesome. Thanks CJK. Much appreciated. I’ll add 3 fish oil caps per meal and look forward to some good things happening over the next 5-6 weeks or so. I know I respond well to low carb higher fat diets as I’ve been on them before but not to this extreme, so I’m looking forwards to it. I can already taste the wholeweat pancakes on Saturday morning 
Thanks again for your input.
Cheers
Oh one other question. I started this diet essentially yesterday (tues) should I go thru till friday then have my carb load on the weekend and continue the rotation in that order?
Oh one other question. I started this diet essentially yesterday (tues) should I go thru till friday then have my carb load on the weekend and continue the rotation in that order?
Hey Guys,
I have been on the low carb lifestyle for well over a year now and am currently dieting down(been going strong for 30 weeks now) and have just about reached my goal.
I am doing my hw on mass gain diets and certainly feel that I have to stay on a low carb diet with a carb up even while gaining lean mass. I have learned that I am VERY carb sensitive. I initially started using the AD(Over a yr ago), but gained ALOT of fat with muscle when using it for mass gain. I guess, it was mainly due to NOT monitoring calories during the week or on the weekend carb up…I foolishly used my weight gain as progress assessment, along with strength gain.
I want to know what variations of the AD others have used/use in order to gain lean mass only. I was reading into either the caveman style diet, Eating mainly root veggies, fruit, nuts and meat…with a carb up day Or Poliquins 4 days low carb, 1 day high carb. I guess, there are plenty of variations to utilize whilst on a low car diet, just a matter of what suits and proves progressive.
actually that raises a point I should have mentioned about my proposed AD above, this is the consolidation phase/beginning phase or whatever you call it, not the massbuilding or cutting phase…so again, given my stats, feel free to critique or suggest any changes.
I guess I’d like to know what to expect, will there be a noticable drop in bf/strength impacts/vasularity/endurance impacts etc? I gotta say after so long on more traditional diets my mind is playing mucho games with me, I almost feel guilty eating all this stuff… and the digestive stuff is happening already (damn!)… so if there’s any big warning indicators I need to watch out for too, please let me know?
anyone aware of any differences in times of the day to eat on AD? like is it bad to eat a fair amount before bed, or not quite as bad as it would be on a regular diet?
So I’m supposed to eat hi fat/pro for 12 days straight then carb up on a weekend? Is that right?
absolutely, that is for your induction phase. Then after that you go to 5/6 days low carb and 1/2 days carb ups.
[quote]Ad B wrote:
It really depends on how long you’ve been adhering to it. if you’ve fully adapted (thought of as 6 months at least on the diet) no longer than a week to be safe. if longer, i would re-do the induction phase. why do you ask?
steven alex wrote:
I think I read a few times in this enormous thread that becoming fully adapted to burning fat comes a few months into the diet ( if adhered to fully ). What about a reversal? How long a spell would you need to consume carbs for to get back to burning carbs as a prime fuel and be back to square one?
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Thank you Ad B for your reply. I ask for occasions when certain events happen like holidays or Xmas where strictness to the diet is a little harder to maintain. I read one of DH’s early posts where he spoke of the forgiving nature of this diet and wondered if you were truly fat adapted getting back to burning carbs for primary fuel might sort of be this diet in reverse so to speak.
Conorh,
Thanks for the feedback.
toocul4u,
Well, i would say that breakfast and post-workout should be larger than all other meals and pre-bed meal should be the smallest.
matt007,
Its very individual. in the induction phase, you will definately see a reduction in scale weight (mostly water and glycogen) and you may feel alittle flat. strength wise, i didnt really see a decrease in the induction phase, and always feel much stronger now than on a high carb diet.
the proponents of low carb diet are dead right imo. I definately think that the majority of the population would do better on a low carb diet than any other. like gym junkie im also very carb sensitive (european and all) and i know that if i want to keep body composition in check i have to go low carb.
[rant]
re. Fat gain on the AD
I think fat gain on the diet can be put down to one factor more than any other, and that is the carb up. that is the one draw back about the AD that catches alot of people out.
Even though you feel so much better when keeping carbs to a minimum (eg. weekdays), theres this voice thats saying “only one more day to my carb up”. then when it comes, you go completely overboard, eating everything insight, getting as much food in you as possible. its a small window of opportunity where you get to stuff your face full of those nice treats.
IT ISNT. it is a way of maximising an anabolic response.
If more people changed the way they looked at the weekend carb up when trying to gain lean mass then much more people would succeed.
the lifestyle is meant to be fun and it still can, but controlled fun.
One way to do this is -
Roughly workout how many calories you want to take in over the weekend.
then roughly pick out the foods that you want to eat.
set them aside or make a list.
then for the weekend eat those foods and try to minimise other food intake.
this way, you get to enjoy the food you want to eat, when you want to eat it, but making sure you dont overconsume.
in summary, for a lot of people the weekend is mentally put on a pedastool, counting down the days untill you can go ‘nuts’. if this mentality was broken and some guidlines put in place, i feel more people would achieve their goals and at a quicker rate.
We need to put an emphasis on the weekdays, good fats, enough calories and good training.
thanks [/rant]