[quote]nycsoccax wrote:
InTheZone wrote:
nycsoccax wrote:
InTheZone wrote:
nycsoccax wrote:
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nycsoccax wrote:
I’m glad that we’ve established that it is okay to go over 30 grams of carbs without having an effect on the diet. I was generally very strict and tried aiming around 25g a day just to be sure… but now I won’t count every single hidden carb.
Whooohhhhh easy now,…where did we establish that?
Far as I know we’ve just been talking about it and we don’t have any long term users claiming this to be fact do we? I’m still of the the notion that if you go over that you will fuck up the fat burning mode…
I know some guys tweak it but that’s way into the AD, like a year or more for some of the guys I’ve read about…and one extra day during the week for moderate carb ups has been talked about, but again these are supposedly only for people who have been a year or so in…
I would love to be able to slam like 50g instead of 30 or less, especially around workouts a bit more, but I don’t know that we have that fully “established” yet…
If I'm wrong please enlighten me..
Tonebone
Well, I don’t need to enlighten you, the other guys have pretty much said what was needed to be said. I don’t mean 50 grams of carbs, I meant that I don’t have to be exact at 30, which can be really annoying when watching for hidden carbs. I’m sure going over a few grams won’t effect your state of ketosis, based on their research.
I was using that number in a general way, you say that under 30 is “annoying”…well, no shit…that’s the whole point is keeping track of all carbs, hidden or not…your attitude would most likely lead to over carbing easily, and thus defeating your goals of fat burning…I don’t see any one else “saying what needed to be said”, to back what you are saying…
Bizmark enlightened us to Colpo’s feelings on the extra carbs with further explaining that he isn’t fully buying this idea.
Having said that, I feel what you’re saying, I would love to not have to “watch” the carb intake so much, but have to until months of being adapted…
anyway, good luck with getting back to watching those carbs dude.
It’s all worth it when you see the fat melting off after cutting fat cals down…
TB
Well, kinda read the post above this one and you’ll probably have a better understanding of where I’m coming from. I have the fat melting off already, I just want to see if adding those extra 10 grams of carbs or so (which gives me a better session at the gym) will effect, and how much it will effect, fat burning.
Hey bro, you’re 3 months in I would say you’re probably adapted, and while you might be ok to add, you might not.
Are you taking large amounts of BCAA’s in before/after your workout??
That would be a much better alternative to the added carbs, IMO…I find 15g before/during, and 15 added to protein shake post, work absolute wonders for added strength/energy during the workout without worry about the diet… Especially if you aren’t doing this yet…you should notice a big difference.
Hopefully you are already doing this, but if not, I would definitely give it a go..
get some powdered so that it's affordable, and go to town with them...I also take in about 7.5g between meals as well esp. during off days, but sometimes on workout days in addition to the workout timed amount I just mentioned.
Cheers, ToneBone
Well, I’m kind of in a tough situation…
Gym membership ends August 15th (thats Wednesday! =[) but i’m not renewing it because i’ll be getting free access to the gym at school which starts September. I’ll be losing two weeks in the gym, but I’ll still be running / push ups / abs so that should keep me going.
Anyway, I was going to wait until school before I order my supplements (HOT-ROX, BCAA’s, maybe more creatine…) but i’m not sure if those two weeks are going to make me lose muscle without doing any strength sessions and just doing push ups, etc.
Of course I’ll up the protein to probably around ~1.5g / lb during those two weeks to try and retain as much muscle mass as possible, but do you think it would be wise to buy the BCAA’s and take them those two weeks? Or will the usual creatine + protein i’ve been taking be good enough?
Also, what BCAA powder are you guys using that you feel works best? Is the one from GNC good (i think they only have one)? I have a 20% coupon I plan on using =)
Thanks for the help!
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Ok, most definitely it will help in that situation…how long have you been going at it at the gym w/out a little time off presently?
Because, honestly, a good break is always in order if you have been going for a while, though two weeks is a big break..
Listen bud, I am sending you a beautiful source to take care of your BCAA needs…Don’t use GNC, any place other than what I’m going to pm you with is a waste of money, and makes it damn near impossible to afford the amount that your body will thrive on…
cheers, it's your lucky day fellow ADer.
ToneBone
