My Experience On the Anabolic Diet

Nutrition
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Well here is my attempt at jumping into AD

Day 1

5 whole eggs scrambled with 1/2 cup chopped spinach & 1/4 cup cheddar 1/4 cupp flax seed

2oz roasted salted peanuts

5oz grilled chicken breast & 1 cup steamed broccoli 1tbs olive oil

5oz grilled chicken breast & 1 cup steamed broccoli 1tbs olive oil

ON Whey with 1/2 cup half & half and water

8oz NY strip 2 cup raw spinach 1/4 feta cheese 2 tbs virgin olive oil & bals vingr

Cals 3192
Fat 1979 cals 200g /18% sat/ 11% poly/ 30 % mono
carbs 60 -31 fiber = net 29
pro 1007 cals 252grams

Any Advice –

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[quote]steelerfan wrote:
Well here is my attempt at jumping into AD

Day 1

5 whole eggs scrambled with 1/2 cup chopped spinach & 1/4 cup cheddar 1/4 cupp flax seed

2oz roasted salted peanuts

5oz grilled chicken breast & 1 cup steamed broccoli 1tbs olive oil

5oz grilled chicken breast & 1 cup steamed broccoli 1tbs olive oil

ON Whey with 1/2 cup half & half and water

8oz NY strip 2 cup raw spinach 1/4 feta cheese 2 tbs virgin olive oil & bals vingr

Cals 3192
Fat 1979 cals 200g /18% sat/ 11% poly/ 30 % mono
carbs 60 -31 fiber = net 29
pro 1007 cals 252grams

Any Advice – [/quote]

hey the carbs are a little high for my taste…watch out from the peanuts/On whey also has what, 4g/scoop?? that’s way too much for your protein source IMO…you need less than 30g, remember??

         Just pay attention to counting those carbs, some people dismiss it too much IMO for their own good..

       veggies are pretty good to go, but you still need moderation or they will add up too, even with the sol/insol fiber discounts...or at least add to the ones sneaking in behind your back...lol..that half and half also, It has 1gCHO I believe...use heavy whipping cream..better fat source, no carbs, and tastes great.

        Other than that it looked great to me..
                     TB
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[quote]Pilgrim192 wrote:
i0wny0uall wrote:
nycsoccax wrote:
i0wny0uall wrote:
Hagar wrote:
i0wny0uall wrote:
I need some help with a recent (past two week) stomach/intestinal problem while on this diet.

I’ve been following the AD for 6 weeks, and following it to a T. Everything was awesome until maybe 2 weeks ago, when I got intestinal/abdominal area cramps (between mild and severe), and a significant decrease in appetite along with bowel problems.

I just got back from the doc’s and my blood work was fine, x-rays apparently didn’t show anything, and they gave me Miralax (laxative).

Needless to say I dont have to explain the doc’s reaction when I told her the type of diet I was on; everyone thinks the AD is the cause of it, and perhaps it is, but I seriously do not want to switch back to a carb-based diet.

As for fiber, I should be eating more veggies. I do supp. with psyllium husks, about 4-6 servings a day.

My question is: has anyone experienced this, know someone who has experienced this, or even read about anything like this?? Can anyone give me some help as to what I should do?

I will try to increase my fiber to well over 30g a day and see if that helps. Besides that, I just want to know if anyone has experienced this before or can tell me if they think this is AD related or perhaps a stomach bug?

I need some help! i don’t want to change back to a carb-based diet again! Thanks!

That sucks. I never had any problems on the AD. Are you drinking enough water? Have you tried digestive enzymes or HCA? they might be worth looking into. Are you using psyllum husk for your fiber?

I’ve been drinking only water, which is normal for me. No soda or juices of any kind. I am using psyllium husks for fiber, and realize I could be getting in more veggies. Still though, I looked online and 100g of broccoli is only like 2.6g of fiber, while one teaspoon of psyllium is 4.5

What is HCA?? Is it a digestive enzyme?

The only thing I can imagine that is causing this is not enough fiber/too much fat. I don’t know exactly how too much fat in your diet can cause abdominal pain and cause you to back up though.

I was eating 3oz of cheese everyday, and cut that out because I read it can cause constipation. I also cut out the one or two cups of coffee as well.

Maybe a good digestive enzyme is all I need. If anyone else has any tips I would greatly appreciate it!

I know we’re different people but I used to double the cheese and coffee you consume and never had any problems, although I cut down on the cheese for cutting purposes. I doubt cheese could be the problem… plus its so tasty how could you cut it out hehe

I don’t think it was the cheese either, but I was in that “cut out everything that could be the cause” mode to see if I could solve the problem. Then i was going to slowly add one or two items back in.

I was really loving my cheddar cheese/pepperoni meal too…

i went through the same thing- stomache problems. I cut out the crappy foods (processed sausages and hamburgers) and most of my cheese AND i cut back on peanuts/peanut butter. this made the pain go away. the nuts and cheese really make it bad for me.
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did you also have problems with bowel movements, or just stomach pains?

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[quote]dhuge67 wrote:
Posts like TB’s make me glad to be a T-Nation regular.[/quote]

Thanks C…It is a matter of returning favors done to me by other members like us…makes this a great site for sure.
TB

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[quote]natural59 wrote:
cesliwakan wrote:
ok so im on the road and have been eating “fried pork skins” which i think is the same as pork rinds.

the bag is 8 servings
80 cal per serving
5g fat
0 carb
7g pro (not a significant source of protein)

WHAT?
that dosent make sense. thats alot of protein!

also the cals dont add up to 80 (more like 73 but whatever)

are pig skins an absorbable source of protein?
if so these are the perfect meal/snack

640cal
45g fat x 9=405=63%fat
56 g protein

anyone know anything about this? jerkey is too high in carbs and im on the road so im eatin at gas stations alot.

If you can take a small cooler with you, I’d mix enough low- carb whey protein for 3 shakes, mixed with Extra Virgin Olive Oil, and drink that throughout the day. The Olive Oil I use is 120 cals per tablespoon, so adding six tablespoons to your mixture would give you 720 fat calories. Add more, if your diet requires it…

With my protein powder, 3 shakes + 6 tbsp. Olive Oil gives me 1500 total calories, 732 from fat, 5g carbs., and 150g. protein, all in about 18oz. of liquid (water, diet Green Tea, etc.). Plus, it’s loaded with BCAA’s. High calorie, high protein, high fat, low carb…very economical for just in-between-meals snacks. I don’t think slim jims or pork rinds can compare to this.

-james[/quote]

well if the pork rinds actually DO have that much protein arent they perfect?
i just dont understand why it said “not a significant source of protein”

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[quote]Hagar wrote:
i0wny0uall wrote:
What is HCA?? Is it a digestive enzyme?

Man this thread moves. HCA or Hydrochloric acid supplements help you digest food. Around half the people out there don’t produce enough. Most supplement stores carry them. On a side note I personally I limit the amount of cheese I eat. Here’s more info on HCA supps.

Digestion; Food-Allergy.org [/quote]

Thanks a lot, i’ll look into this.

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[quote]InTheZone wrote:
steelerfan wrote:
Well here is my attempt at jumping into AD

Day 1

5 whole eggs scrambled with 1/2 cup chopped spinach & 1/4 cup cheddar 1/4 cupp flax seed

2oz roasted salted peanuts

5oz grilled chicken breast & 1 cup steamed broccoli 1tbs olive oil

5oz grilled chicken breast & 1 cup steamed broccoli 1tbs olive oil

ON Whey with 1/2 cup half & half and water

8oz NY strip 2 cup raw spinach 1/4 feta cheese 2 tbs virgin olive oil & bals vingr

Cals 3192
Fat 1979 cals 200g /18% sat/ 11% poly/ 30 % mono
carbs 60 -31 fiber = net 29
pro 1007 cals 252grams

Any Advice –

hey the carbs are a little high for my taste…watch out from the peanuts/On whey also has what, 4g/scoop?? that’s way too much for your protein source IMO…you need less than 30g, remember??

         Just pay attention to counting those carbs, some people dismiss it too much IMO for their own good..

       veggies are pretty good to go, but you still need moderation or they will add up too, even with the sol/insol fiber discounts...or at least add to the ones sneaking in behind your back...lol..that half and half also, It has 1gCHO I believe...use heavy whipping cream..better fat source, no carbs, and tastes great.

        Other than that it looked great to me..
                     TB[/quote]

TB

Thanks for the advice, I was thinking about doing without the peanuts especially during break-in …The ON has 3gram CHO per the lable… I will check lables on the Heavy Cream because Fitday shows it still has Carbs… From all I read the fiber content is deducted, right?

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So, day 2 and I’ve got a pretty constant headache. Apparently I relied on carbs moreso than I previously thought. Ugh, 10 more days.

I miss milk the most. And fruit. I live with my girlfriend so it sucks opening up the fridge and having to look at milk or fruit on the counter.

I haven’t cooked eggs with butter in years though, tastey.

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[quote]steelerfan wrote:
InTheZone wrote:
steelerfan wrote:
Well here is my attempt at jumping into AD

Day 1

5 whole eggs scrambled with 1/2 cup chopped spinach & 1/4 cup cheddar 1/4 cupp flax seed

2oz roasted salted peanuts

5oz grilled chicken breast & 1 cup steamed broccoli 1tbs olive oil

5oz grilled chicken breast & 1 cup steamed broccoli 1tbs olive oil

ON Whey with 1/2 cup half & half and water

8oz NY strip 2 cup raw spinach 1/4 feta cheese 2 tbs virgin olive oil & bals vingr

Cals 3192
Fat 1979 cals 200g /18% sat/ 11% poly/ 30 % mono
carbs 60 -31 fiber = net 29
pro 1007 cals 252grams

Any Advice –

hey the carbs are a little high for my taste…watch out from the peanuts/On whey also has what, 4g/scoop?? that’s way too much for your protein source IMO…you need less than 30g, remember??

         Just pay attention to counting those carbs, some people dismiss it too much IMO for their own good..

       veggies are pretty good to go, but you still need moderation or they will add up too, even with the sol/insol fiber discounts...or at least add to the ones sneaking in behind your back...lol..that half and half also, It has 1gCHO I believe...use heavy whipping cream..better fat source, no carbs, and tastes great.

        Other than that it looked great to me..
                     TB

TB

Thanks for the advice, I was thinking about doing without the peanuts especially during break-in …The ON has 3gram CHO per the lable… I will check lables on the Heavy Cream because Fitday shows it still has Carbs… From all I read the fiber content is deducted, right?[/quote]

See that’s part of the reason I don’t like fitday…no there are no carbs in pure heavy cream, that’s why it kicks ass…about 5g fat,3.5 saturated I believe…

       As for the fiber, it's been run over many times, but realisticly you count soluble fiber at half it's amount off the carbs, and insoluble is fully counted, you can eat insoluble all day long and it won't affect carb counts at all..

       but like I said, it's a split, some don't count any fiber..but the good Dr. himself says you have to count half the soluble as it is partially digested and used for energy to an extent...

              So, it's your choice, but at least during your break in I would count the fiber as per what I said.. and you'll be ok...nothings worse than going through the break in and messing up and not getting fat adapted....then you have to do it over until you get it right....

            well, later for now, good luck.
                   TB
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[quote]Okay, you’re saying I’m ignorant about the diet because I have less than ____ amount of posts, yet I’ve been reading this thread since about 2006 and been on the diet for about 3-4 months.

“carbs do not hinder anabolism dude” can’t mean much else than your intake of carbs do not change your state of being anabolic, which is down right wrong. It does mean building muscle, but you know theres more components to it.

I wouldn’t say I’m not willing to take advice from other people, because I’ve learned everything I know about AD through the 250 pages of this thread. Chill before you start saying I don’t know anything. I’ve lost about 4% BF from this diet already while maintaining body weight in 3 months, I must know a few things. [/quote]

Fair call man. Listen, sorry for getting into you about it. Just that there are quit a few people that think there is only one way to do certain things, ie diets, training etc…So I got a bit carried away with our discussion. I shouldn’t have gone so hard ey :slight_smile:

I may have also misunderstood your initial quote, sayin that once over 30g carbs, you are not anabolic…Guess, it means I would not really be on the “AD” if over 60g’s of carbs…

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I’m always looking for good, fast, simple recipes that fit my diet:

Dice one large chicken breast into bitesize chunks, coated a frying pan with a little butter, cooked the breast until about half done, then added 1/2 pound of Jimmy Dean’s Premium (Hot) Pork Sausage.

If you want to add a couple carbs, just throw in half a handful of diced onion, a few sauteed mushrooms, or top with shredded cheddar cheese, or any combination thereof…

-james

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Does crystal light really have no carbs? The label lists its carb amount as 0 but the ingredients list maltodextrin.

Anyone? Hagar?

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As TB suggested I’m trying to use nutritiondata.com and I have registered with no problem. It seems to have alot more data but I can not change the portion sizes other than what the drop down menu as available. Can anybody help with this?

I went trough the help and FAQ’s but still can’t figure out.

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hey guys!! quick question, are there any grapplers/wrestlers on this diet? Im thinking about trying it out but dont know if it would be a good Idea since I need to be very explosive and keep my energy levels high during tornaments.

I wrestle and do some jiu jitsu on the side, I want to try it out but dont know if its a good Idea. I have read a bunch of pages but dont know if any its a good ideal for wrestlers. I also lift(oly only and runnin) 4-5 times a week in the am and practice at 5pm then jiu jitsu at 7:30pm…mon thru friday and sometimes saturdays as well as sundays!! thanks!

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[quote]greekdawg wrote:
dhuge67 wrote:
Cucumbers seem to keep me “regular” lol.

I discovered a pretty tasty but fat-rich way to have breakfast. Milled flax has 4.5 g of fat per serving, with 4 g of protein and 4g of fiber with ZERO Carbs. Put it in a bowl with water (like oatmeal) and heat it up in the microwave for a minute, add some splenda and then it’s like having your morning oatmeal.

But damn, I never realized how hard it is to get 27 grams of fat per meal…

That sounds pretty cool, whats the taste like? and how much is a serving? Also, is it ground flax seeds?

Good tip, I might have to try that… [/quote]

http://www.hodgsonmill.com/roi/673/Flax-Seed-Products/Milled-Flax-Seed-01015.htm

Tastes like cream of wheat, but lighter in “density.” Just try it!

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[quote]dhuge67 wrote:
greekdawg wrote:
dhuge67 wrote:
Cucumbers seem to keep me “regular” lol.

I discovered a pretty tasty but fat-rich way to have breakfast. Milled flax has 4.5 g of fat per serving, with 4 g of protein and 4g of fiber with ZERO Carbs. Put it in a bowl with water (like oatmeal) and heat it up in the microwave for a minute, add some splenda and then it’s like having your morning oatmeal.

But damn, I never realized how hard it is to get 27 grams of fat per meal…

That sounds pretty cool, whats the taste like? and how much is a serving? Also, is it ground flax seeds?

Good tip, I might have to try that…

http://www.hodgsonmill.com/roi/673/Flax-Seed-Products/Milled-Flax-Seed-01015.htm

Tastes like cream of wheat, but lighter in “density.” Just try it![/quote]

I just tried the flax meal like this, it’s awesome! very good with cinnamon too

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^^ Defintely gonna try … i miss oatmeal although I do eat a lot on the weekends =]

Anyway, can anybody give input on how you can combine the Fat Inferno Cardio Program ( http://www.musclewithattitude.com/readTopicMwa.do?id=1677554 ) in conjunction with the AD? In the article it says do the exercises Monday, Wed, Fri – is there a better schedule to do it on the AD to maxamize fat loss with the science to back it up? Thanks =]

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[quote]steelerfan wrote:
As TB suggested I’m trying to use nutritiondata.com and I have registered with no problem. It seems to have alot more data but I can not change the portion sizes other than what the drop down menu as available. Can anybody help with this?

I went trough the help and FAQ’s but still can’t figure out. [/quote]

Hey bro, not sure what you mean…you definitely need a scale, I usually just measure out 100g portions or multiples thereof…broccoli, meats etc…

           On a side note to everyone here with a sweet tooth...and must like ice cream....

Ok, check this shit out…I have been trying to come up with something along the lines of ice cream but healthy for a while now,…and now don’t have to resort to binging out of control on low sugar ice cream on weekends…cause I got busy and hammered this out last night.

1 Can Pumpkin.29oz. This is approx. 7 1/2cup servings.
7 Tblspns Heavy Cream.
20 packets Equal.(or any generic aspartme)
2 tspns Cinnamon
2 tspns Pumpkin Pie Spice
7 scoops Isopure cookies n cream Whey Isolate

         Whisk the shit out of everything carefully, then put in freezer overnight. The next morning take and put it in the fridge instead, so it's not hard as a rock..this takes several hours..Voila,...eat a portion or two of this and your in heaven literally..lol..

Stats: Serving size: 167g
Calories: 195
Cals from fat: 60
Total fat: 6g
Sat. fat: 3g
Cholesterol: 22mg
Sodium: 180mg
Total CHO: 5g (9 total-4gm insoluble fiber)=5g
Dietary Fiber:5g
Sugars: 0
Protein: 27g
Vit A: 329% rda
Vit C: 27% rda
Calcium: 34%
Iron: 7%

                 what thinkest thou?
         har,har, yeah baby!!
        anyway it's a nice snack to get down on, and still feel good about it. And it's delicious IMO..

                   Enjoy it,
                ToneBone
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It’s bloody hard to get an AD-compliant meal at a Mexican restaurant.

That’s all I wanted to say.

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[quote]Miserere wrote:
It’s bloody hard to get an AD-compliant meal at a Mexican restaurant.

That’s all I wanted to say.[/quote]

You could always get the fajitas, or some meal, and ditch the beans/rice, and any tortillas, and you’re pretty much left with meat, and bellpepper/onions. so long as you don’t overdose on the onions you’re ok…