I bought the Metabolic solution for powerlifters from MD+ and in the start up phase it says to do some sort of circuit training.
From what I understand there could be two different reasons for this.
He means “start up phase” as a start up to all training and dieting in general. Many trainers and the like recommend a full body circuit style training to get people to understand the movements, get the HR going and get people sweating and hooked.
He wants people to take it easy in the gym while the metabolic shift is happening so they don’t get too discouraged.
Personally I don’t think it matters. I’m 10 weeks out from an APF meet and I can’t sacrifice my training for that. I honestly believe it won’t make a bit of difference what you do.
[quote]Florida Titan wrote:
Got a couple of questions.
Is use of MCT oils good for breakfast and pre workout to give you a little boost of energy for the day and training?
Mauro doesn’t really give any recommendations for EFA intake in the book other than the myriad of advertisements for his stuff. I’ve got Borage Seed Oil (GLA), Fish Oils, MCTs and CLA. What are good daily intake recommendations for these?
I am a powerlifter and am wondering if I should rotate the diet to put my carb ups on other days? I have a static training cycle at Tampa Barbell. We always squat saturday morning and bench tuesday night. So I would be still be pretty depleted come saturday morning if I started my carb up that day.
I was considering doing a 6 day low carb and 2 day carb up with a mid week mini carb up meal half way through the low carb period. Would this be beneficial or would the elevated levels of hormones be increased through the week regardless?[/quote]
[quote]Florida Titan wrote:
I bought the Metabolic solution for powerlifters from MD+ and in the start up phase it says to do some sort of circuit training.
From what I understand there could be two different reasons for this.
He means “start up phase” as a start up to all training and dieting in general. Many trainers and the like recommend a full body circuit style training to get people to understand the movements, get the HR going and get people sweating and hooked.
He wants people to take it easy in the gym while the metabolic shift is happening so they don’t get too discouraged.
Personally I don’t think it matters. I’m 10 weeks out from an APF meet and I can’t sacrifice my training for that. I honestly believe it won’t make a bit of difference what you do.[/quote]
Thanks for the reply. So any respectable program(like the ones on the site) will be fine? I guess another option would to just take the week off, as I just finished a program. This may be good as I get use to the shift.
[quote]Florida Titan wrote:
I bought the Metabolic solution for powerlifters from MD+ and in the start up phase it says to do some sort of circuit training.
From what I understand there could be two different reasons for this.
He means “start up phase” as a start up to all training and dieting in general. Many trainers and the like recommend a full body circuit style training to get people to understand the movements, get the HR going and get people sweating and hooked.
He wants people to take it easy in the gym while the metabolic shift is happening so they don’t get too discouraged.
Personally I don’t think it matters. I’m 10 weeks out from an APF meet and I can’t sacrifice my training for that. I honestly believe it won’t make a bit of difference what you do.[/quote]
My best guess is the circuit training is used to deplete glycogen so your body has nothing else to run on except fat and protein.
[quote]Florida Titan wrote:
Florida Titan wrote:
Got a couple of questions.
Is use of MCT oils good for breakfast and pre workout to give you a little boost of energy for the day and training?
Mauro doesn’t really give any recommendations for EFA intake in the book other than the myriad of advertisements for his stuff. I’ve got Borage Seed Oil (GLA), Fish Oils, MCTs and CLA. What are good daily intake recommendations for these?
I am a powerlifter and am wondering if I should rotate the diet to put my carb ups on other days? I have a static training cycle at Tampa Barbell. We always squat saturday morning and bench tuesday night. So I would be still be pretty depleted come saturday morning if I started my carb up that day.
I was considering doing a 6 day low carb and 2 day carb up with a mid week mini carb up meal half way through the low carb period. Would this be beneficial or would the elevated levels of hormones be increased through the week regardless?
Repost. Bump.
Help please.
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In the original AD book there is a whole page about MTCs. DON’T USE THEM. They work against you on the AD.
Most people use around 20g of fish oil a day. Keep in mind the Doc recommends that you replace animal fats with healthy fats from vegetable sources when ever you can. Thats in the book too.
You could try it but I wouldn’t screw around with the mid week carbup till you’ve been on for 6 months. I carb on the weekends and sill have great workouts on fridays. If you want to replenish glycogen you could load up on glutamine 30 to 80g post workout but I never felt like that did much for me. Your body will also get glycogen from the protein you consume. If your really dragging ass during you w/o then you might not be getting in enough carbs in during you carb up. I shoot for around 700 to 800g sat and 400 to 500g sun.
Had my first day trying to be on the anabolic diet. I’ve read a lot about the diet, and downloaded the book by DiPasquale. I’m an athlete looking to lose bodyfat. If I gain weight or lose I don’t care (I’m 6’1 230), I want a normal ass and not those fucking love handles. Details of today:
-3 whole eggs in olive oil
-I’m from the netherlands, dunno what you call it over there, let’s just call it the fat leg of a chicken.
-3 burgers from burger king without the bun, cucumber, half an hour later salami and some other slice of meat
-fishsticks (hope the crust won’t have too much carbs), green beans, cucumber
-2 small steaks in olive oil
-hope to down 2 more eggs and olive oil in half an hour
I started this way of eating this sunday, most stores are closed, so I couldn’t get cheese, fish oil and flaxseed (if we even have that over here). Comments?
[quote]Florida Titan wrote:
The Anabolic Solution does have anything in it about MCTs. I got jipped there. Would you please explain why he advises against them?
What are good daily recommendations for GLA and CLA?[/quote]
Yep its in the Anabolic Diet book but its just half a page. Lets see if I can explain. I can’t get too scientific though. In a nut shell MTCs bypasses the metabolic pathways you are trying to establish on the AD. Also long chain triglycerides will have a better protein sparing effect over MTCs. On a regular diet MTCs work well with carbs and on a ketogenic diet they work great for energy since they’re easily converted to ketones. Finally the Doc states MTCs will work against protein synthesis and body fat breakdown on the AD. Check out page 63 if you ever get a copy (ptss torrent);)…
While going on AD has been the best thing I’ve done, one thing I’ve noticed is that I now bruise very easily. Has anyone else noticed this? Any idea what may be causing this?
So I have been on the AD since Saturday and all is going well so far. I can tell my body is going wtf are you doing to me though. Today I started ABBH and it went pretty well. I have few questions though. Are those supps he reccomends(in the anabolic solution for bodybuilders) really worth it? I am assuming not, but just wondering.
Also I am eating about 2800(160lbsx18 as he recommends) cals a day so far and will be doing that until I enter the mass phase and noticed that he recommends 25 calories per pound of bodyweight for this phase. Thats like 4000 cals a day for me!!!
I am sure its all individual but is it really necessary for all those cals? I was thinking maybe like maitennace calories during the week then up the calories a pretty good bit on the carb-ups? Any suggestions?
His supplements are very complete but are WAY too expensive. I can’t afford them.
See what happens after the start up phase. I plan on doing an initial jump to 20x bodyweight. I am 180 now and plan on hitting 7000 and 4000 calories on high carb days for atleast a month and see what my body does/feels. I may go up from there.
The book mentions “extreme variance” for bulking which was maintenance and then 12000 calories on the weekends for someone going over 300 pounds.
Well, on my second day of the diet, what I ate today:
-about 400 grams of cheese
-a meal of chicken breast
-6 chicken wings
-3 tartar burgers (the probably call it different overseas) with mayonaise
-3 whole eggs
-a lot of lettuce
-half a cucumber
3 fish oil caps
I still have the feeling I’m not eating much when I look at the list, guess we’ll have to see. I think I’ll again add some eggs with olive oil.
O yeah, when I worked out and squatted I almost had to puke because of the cheese i ate earlier. No other signs of the diet yet…
Currently on Day 8 of the AD and I have to say, so far it’s been going extremely well. I’m definitely enjoying a lot of the things I was unable to eat on recent diet plans. I don’t seem to have the headaches that I did the first couple of days, and yet I do seem to be quite a bit more irritable…but who knows, that could just be me, or perhaps because I’ve cut my coffee intake to just one cup per day, black.
I’m figuring on hitting a brick wall in a couple of days, when that early shift takes place…the sooner the better, as far as I’m concerned.
[quote]Hagar wrote:
Florida Titan wrote:
The Anabolic Solution does have anything in it about MCTs. I got jipped there. Would you please explain why he advises against them?
What are good daily recommendations for GLA and CLA?
Yep its in the Anabolic Diet book but its just half a page. Lets see if I can explain. I can’t get too scientific though. In a nut shell MTCs bypasses the metabolic pathways you are trying to establish on the AD. Also long chain triglycerides will have a better protein sparing effect over MTCs. On a regular diet MTCs work well with carbs and on a ketogenic diet they work great for energy since they’re easily converted to ketones. Finally the Doc states MTCs will work against protein synthesis and body fat breakdown on the AD. Check out page 63 if you ever get a copy (ptss torrent);)… [/quote]
Hey Hagar, helpin out the guys still I see...I'm bulking now at around 3500 cals/weekdays for the remainder of my little experiment that I got goin on....
Sure feels nice to slam that 4tblspns of heavy cream in the ol shakes again now...lol..god that shits good..
I was down to 188, and things slowed down, so I'll try again after this mini mass phase..Got a new gameplan to break that platue of sorts next time..
Anyway I'm back at around 200 already, but still much leaner than usual, even with said "experiment" going on for a while longer yet...
I look forward to seeing ya on my post over there again, and hey, about time I finally got an avatar eh? lol.. Joe/Vai/Yngwie...yeah baby...
p.s. gonna catch steve over at the Fillmore in SF in September bro.. should be awesome!
peace, ToneBone
[quote]i0wny0uall wrote:
Blood work results are in!
Question: For those of you who are more knowledgeable about the physiological aspects of this diet, what is up with my triglycerides?? is 37 odd, optimal, or what? A layman such as myself would assume that it would be high considering i’m getting over 200g of fat each day. Is my body using most of the tri’s for fuel, hence my blood work shows a low amount?
Can anyone help me out - i’m extremely curious. Anyway, good luck to everyone![/quote]
Bumping this because i’m really curious as to whether such a low tri level is fine for a fat-oriented diet. Any help?
Just wanted to thank everyone who has posted on this thread with advice. I have been on the AD for the past 4 weeks, and have lost 12 pounds so far. I have a long ways to go, but it’s a start.
[quote]i0wny0uall wrote:
i0wny0uall wrote:
Blood work results are in!
Question: For those of you who are more knowledgeable about the physiological aspects of this diet, what is up with my triglycerides?? is 37 odd, optimal, or what? A layman such as myself would assume that it would be high considering i’m getting over 200g of fat each day. Is my body using most of the tri’s for fuel, hence my blood work shows a low amount?
Can anyone help me out - i’m extremely curious. Anyway, good luck to everyone!
Bumping this because i’m really curious as to whether such a low tri level is fine for a fat-oriented diet. Any help?[/quote]
Im not a doctor but a low trglyceride level is good. I also eat AD style and my parents, friends always worry about my excessive meat, egg, etc. consumption but I always have low triglyceride levels high good cholesterol and low-mid bad cholesterol and low normal homocystine levels.
Others feel free to weigh in on the tiglycerides, but from what I understand a high level would not be good.
[quote]Hagar wrote:
Florida Titan wrote:
The Anabolic Solution does have anything in it about MCTs. I got jipped there. Would you please explain why he advises against them?
What are good daily recommendations for GLA and CLA?
Yep its in the Anabolic Diet book but its just half a page. Lets see if I can explain. I can’t get too scientific though. In a nut shell MTCs bypasses the metabolic pathways you are trying to establish on the AD. Also long chain triglycerides will have a better protein sparing effect over MTCs. On a regular diet MTCs work well with carbs and on a ketogenic diet they work great for energy since they’re easily converted to ketones. Finally the Doc states MTCs will work against protein synthesis and body fat breakdown on the AD. Check out page 63 if you ever get a copy (ptss torrent);)… [/quote]
I’m torn about MCTs. Coconut oil has alot of good health benefits. I don’t use straight MCT oil, I use coconut oil. I only use it for first meal upon rising. From what I understand, it’s not a good idea to use fish oil for your first meal because it might get used for fuel since its the first meal of the day. So I only use the coconut oil for the first meal.
What do others think of this? Where is Disc Hoss when you need him or Il Cazzo when you need them?