My Experience On the Anabolic Diet

Hey, fig it was about time to introduce myself. I read through this entire thread @least once, and a bunch of skimming back to clarify some things. I did the AD for 4 months and loved it.

I just hopped off to run the vdiet for a month lose this last bit in a hurry, so I can stop this cutting nonsense (long story short I had an insane “bulk” last summer where life kinda was falling apart in a hurry so i figured I could atleast be a house) and then its right back here for a long long time with a much better approach to muscle gain (thanx to CT’s articles about natural people using more modest methods).

I am not a big internet person and because of a lot of the pointless bickering I avoided posting anywhere for a long time. But since I have been a lurker for about 2 yrs now I fig I could give back something (help newer guys so the vets only need to chime in on the high level complex things). And there is no better thread than here on the site, so since I’m now posting, I will prob be popping up fairly often. And with that just wanted to introduce myself.

Lastly, THANK YOU to all the original vets, and to those of you who have picked up the slack since. What prob took 2 min out of your life to post can help so many people in such a positive way, I know I would have been lost without this thread when I started.

And with that, I’ll let you return to your steaks and bacon.

[quote]greekdawg wrote:
Just wanted to share my updated AD milkshake. I’ve been having this for 1 of my breakfast meals and it is amazing. Tastes like a real milkshake. Why would anyone need an actual real milkshake when we can eat like this?

8 oz of crushed ice
(more if you like it thicker)
2 oz/4tbsp full cream
1 tbsp vanilla extract
2 sacoops chocolate Universal milk and egg protein (50 grams pro)
3 whole raw omega 3 eggs

Crush the ice first, then add a little water, not too much or it will be runny. Then add the protein and the eggs. maybe a little more water.

I promise you’ll love it.[/quote]

This may be a dumb question but is it safe to eat raw eggs?

[quote]TBoZ1244 wrote:
Hey, fig it was about time to introduce myself. I read through this entire thread @least once, and a bunch of skimming back to clarify some things. I did the AD for 4 months and loved it.

I just hopped off to run the vdiet for a month lose this last bit in a hurry, so I can stop this cutting nonsense (long story short I had an insane “bulk” last summer where life kinda was falling apart in a hurry so i figured I could atleast be a house) and then its right back here for a long long time with a much better approach to muscle gain (thanx to CT’s articles about natural people using more modest methods).

I am not a big internet person and because of a lot of the pointless bickering I avoided posting anywhere for a long time. But since I have been a lurker for about 2 yrs now I fig I could give back something (help newer guys so the vets only need to chime in on the high level complex things). And there is no better thread than here on the site, so since I’m now posting, I will prob be popping up fairly often. And with that just wanted to introduce myself.

Lastly, THANK YOU to all the original vets, and to those of you who have picked up the slack since. What prob took 2 min out of your life to post can help so many people in such a positive way, I know I would have been lost without this thread when I started.

And with that, I’ll let you return to your steaks and bacon.[/quote]

Wellcome. Its good to have you aboard.

[quote]krew wrote:
greekdawg wrote:
Just wanted to share my updated AD milkshake. I’ve been having this for 1 of my breakfast meals and it is amazing. Tastes like a real milkshake. Why would anyone need an actual real milkshake when we can eat like this?

8 oz of crushed ice
(more if you like it thicker)
2 oz/4tbsp full cream
1 tbsp vanilla extract
2 sacoops chocolate Universal milk and egg protein (50 grams pro)
3 whole raw omega 3 eggs

Crush the ice first, then add a little water, not too much or it will be runny. Then add the protein and the eggs. maybe a little more water.

I promise you’ll love it.

This may be a dumb question but is it safe to eat raw eggs?

[/quote]

Hulk Hogan has been doing it for years with no problems.

raw egg question- if you search you can find it, its been discussed on the site. From what I remember the chances of salmonela (sp?) from them is like 1/10,000. That goes down if you cook them. If I remember correctly.

Important to note-it is said the protein in the whites isn’t digested as well raw. But the fat in the yolks is digested better. (digested may not be the right word, but the basics of it was yolk was better raw and whites weren’t as good). I remember cuz i started making my eggs over easy every morning after hearing that just in case.

[quote]TBoZ1244 wrote:
raw egg question- if you search you can find it, its been discussed on the site. From what I remember the chances of salmonela (sp?) from them is like 1/10,000. That goes down if you cook them. If I remember correctly.

Important to note-it is said the protein in the whites isn’t digested as well raw. But the fat in the yolks is digested better. (digested may not be the right word, but the basics of it was yolk was better raw and whites weren’t as good). I remember cuz i started making my eggs over easy every morning after hearing that just in case.[/quote]

Very interesting! Thanks for that…

I can only eat mine over easy if I have toast to dip so on the AD they are scrammbled!!!

[quote]Hagar wrote:
krew wrote:
greekdawg wrote:
Just wanted to share my updated AD milkshake. I’ve been having this for 1 of my breakfast meals and it is amazing. Tastes like a real milkshake. Why would anyone need an actual real milkshake when we can eat like this?

8 oz of crushed ice
(more if you like it thicker)
2 oz/4tbsp full cream
1 tbsp vanilla extract
2 sacoops chocolate Universal milk and egg protein (50 grams pro)
3 whole raw omega 3 eggs

Crush the ice first, then add a little water, not too much or it will be runny. Then add the protein and the eggs. maybe a little more water.

I promise you’ll love it.

This may be a dumb question but is it safe to eat raw eggs?

Hulk Hogan has been doing it for years with no problems.
[/quote]

I don’t think I could stomach it…but i have been making my shakes with half cream half water and boy are they yummy!!

I substitute bacon for toast to pick up my yolks. Not as spongy but it gets the AD stamp of approval.

Heres a one of my favorite carb day meals

needed:

1 head of broccoli
2 large peppers
jar of kalamata olives
pack of feta cheese crumbled
butt ton of pasta
butt ton of garlic, maybe 10 cloves
evoo

Start pasta cooking. cut up veggies into bite size bits. Mince garlic, and pit/cut up olives. Saute broccoli and peppers in evoo, I think I have read evoo isnt best for this but I care not ha. Toss in olives and garlic last couple minutes of cooking veggies. When pasta is done combine with veggies, then throw all the feta cheese in and do a quick mix of it all. Is a damn fine way to get some carbs and makes a ton. Hope you like it.

[quote]krew wrote:
Hagar wrote:
krew wrote:
greekdawg wrote:
Just wanted to share my updated AD milkshake. I’ve been having this for 1 of my breakfast meals and it is amazing. Tastes like a real milkshake. Why would anyone need an actual real milkshake when we can eat like this?

8 oz of crushed ice
(more if you like it thicker)
2 oz/4tbsp full cream
1 tbsp vanilla extract
2 sacoops chocolate Universal milk and egg protein (50 grams pro)
3 whole raw omega 3 eggs

Crush the ice first, then add a little water, not too much or it will be runny. Then add the protein and the eggs. maybe a little more water.

I promise you’ll love it.

This may be a dumb question but is it safe to eat raw eggs?

Hulk Hogan has been doing it for years with no problems.

I don’t think I could stomach it…but i have been making my shakes with half cream half water and boy are they yummy!!
[/quote]

You don’t think you could stomach what? the eggs? if so, you can’t even taste them. It tastes like a real milkshake, trust me.

[quote]greekdawg wrote:
krew wrote:
Hagar wrote:
krew wrote:
greekdawg wrote:
Just wanted to share my updated AD milkshake. I’ve been having this for 1 of my breakfast meals and it is amazing. Tastes like a real milkshake. Why would anyone need an actual real milkshake when we can eat like this?

8 oz of crushed ice
(more if you like it thicker)
2 oz/4tbsp full cream
1 tbsp vanilla extract
2 sacoops chocolate Universal milk and egg protein (50 grams pro)
3 whole raw omega 3 eggs

Crush the ice first, then add a little water, not too much or it will be runny. Then add the protein and the eggs. maybe a little more water.

I promise you’ll love it.

This may be a dumb question but is it safe to eat raw eggs?

Hulk Hogan has been doing it for years with no problems.

I don’t think I could stomach it…but i have been making my shakes with half cream half water and boy are they yummy!!

You don’t think you could stomach what? the eggs? if so, you can’t even taste them. It tastes like a real milkshake, trust me.[/quote]

ok…I’ll try it…won’t be til after this weekend’s carb load but I’ll make it next week and tell you what i think…

Newbie Q’s:

I’m sure these kind of Q’s have been asked before, but there’s over two hundred pages on this thread and I’m still working my way through.

  1. Will I still adapt in 10-14 days if I do no training during this period (or will it take longer)? My gym is undergoing construction and the cardio room will be the only room open. I was thinking this would be the easiest time to adapt.

  2. Do you guys generally train during the carb-ups? Conventional wisdom seems to say that one should, but this diet is wise and unconventional, so I’m not sure.

  3. Someone said using rep ranges over 10 or 12 on Friday is no good for reasons particular to the diet. I was thinking of doing a MWF full body routine with augmented rep ranges, coming off a M,T,TH,S split (at least at first). Is this a good idea?

Thanks again for your time everyone and if these have been asked before and someone can give me a general page # rather than taking the time to answer these that’s cool too.

[quote]keilnirby wrote:
Newbie Q’s:

I’m sure these kind of Q’s have been asked before, but there’s over two hundred pages on this thread and I’m still working my way through.

  1. Will I still adapt in 10-14 days if I do no training during this period (or will it take longer)? My gym is undergoing construction and the cardio room will be the only room open. I was thinking this would be the easiest time to adapt.[/quote]

You’ll still adapt…just monitor your caloric intake (i.e. Be Careful & don’t overeat)

[quote]
2) Do you guys generally train during the carb-ups? Conventional wisdom seems to say that one should, but this diet is wise and unconventional, so I’m not sure.[/quote]

Some do -some don’t. It depends upon your goals and how you feel (i.e. your energy levels may suffer during carb-loads until you get things all dialed in)

[quote]
3) Someone said using rep ranges over 10 or 12 on Friday is no good for reasons particular to the diet. I was thinking of doing a MWF full body routine with augmented rep ranges, coming off a M,T,TH,S split (at least at first). Is this a good idea?[/quote]

You’ll be fine.
It may take a little while to get your energy levels up to snuff. Once your fully adapted -there’s really no “wrong way” to train. Again, it depends upon your goals and training age.

[quote]
Thanks again for your time everyone and if these have been asked before and someone can give me a general page # rather than taking the time to answer these that’s cool too.[/quote]

Welcome aboard!

peace

I just started on the anabolic diet 4 days ago, but I have no idea what my total caloric intake should be for the first phase and I’m confused about the signals my body is sending me.

The tricky part for me is that previously to starting up this diet, I was on a ridiculously clean cutting diet of about 1800 calories/day for about 4 months with my macronutrient intake split up to about 45/15/40 protein/fat/carbs. Because of this I have no idea what my maintenance calories are at this point. If I recall correctly I was at about 2500cal/day before I started cutting.

Some info that you might want to know about me:
I am a 5’ 8" 155lb, 19 year old male. I lift heavily 4 days a week and do sprints 5 days a week or so.

I’ve been following the macronutrient intake requirements strictly(about 34/64/2 protein/fat/carb) with plenty of lean meat, flax meal, nuts, eggs, fibrous veggies etc., but I can’t seem to stay satiated at all, even when my caloric intake has been increased to around 2300.
I keep rather meticulous diet logs so I’m sure all the info for that stuff is correct.

I have a feeling that if I just eat when I’m hungry my daily caloric intake is going to easily shoot up to above 3000 a day. Is that too much? Does anyone have an idea why I can’t seem to kick the hunger or how many calories I should be consuming daily? My body is just screaming at me for more food. I figured if anyone knew it’d be one of there regulars here.

Jen Heath has a thread on the AD diet, calling it a lifestyle and it goes over a lot of the basics. You will find a lot of useful information.

Go check out her thread on the Mucsles with Attitude (MWA) website.

Has anyone here experienced a weight/fat loss plateau as a result of consuming Splenda ? I know that Aspartame is questionable at best, but wasn’t sure about how Splenda fits in. Thanks !

what’s the take on cream intake? some weekdays I find drinking cream is really satisfying and keeps me going. how much is too much?

All,

just another health-on-the-AD-proof: though I’ve been experimenting with upping my carbs here an there the last couple of months, and I had been on the AD for about a year before that - I’ve had some bloodwork done because of some dragging health issues.

My cholesterol was at 120, within the lowest 2% of all of the doctor’s patients, and I didn’t even take it on an empty stomach (I had a Mars bar and a Coke, when ill I do strange stuff :))

greekmofo, don’t skimp on calories while you’re going through the adaptation phase. Play with calories after that, but for right now, give your body what it wants. Once you’ve made the shift to being fat adapted, you won’t feel so hungry.

so… 3 wks in, just finished 2nd carb up and decided i would do the right thing and buy a copy of the ebook for pl’ers. So i feel good about myself now :slight_smile: So far, think i’ve lost a little fat, maybe gained a little muscle, and seem pretty levelled out on it, so one week to decide whether to cut fat or bulk when first month is over… i presume that staying at a maintenance type calorie intake won’t lead to a gradual composition change once i’ve adapted to it?

Also, i’ve noticed in the new book, that the dietary suggestions look a little more P.C. Any thoughts there? I’m still eating bacon like its going out of style. figure it might be just to get more sales and not frighten as many people off

richie