My Experience On the Anabolic Diet

Nutrition
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[quote]LVZzed wrote:
Black Flag wrote:
Have any of you guys got real cut on this diet, like 6 or 7 percent bodyfat? After wrestling I added twenty five good pounds, but I’ve went from “the most cut six pack in the school” to a four pack with a semi flabby lower stomach. just wondering if the AD could get me back to my “former status”

I am trying to cut down lower-than-ever but rather using the Radical Diet which is a low-calorie version of the beloved AD.
That might be an option.

On that note, this is week two and I’m losing weight yeah, but I think I’ll up my calories for a week next week - to have an anabolic peak, recuperate a bit - and then lower them again. Cycle between the AD and the RD, that sounds cool. Next week is a week off work so I’ll have some more time to train, to maximize the potential of the upped calories.

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im acctually doing the Radical DIet also( just pruchased the book) and this is day 4… Food is no longer enjoyable just energy…

The RD is crazy tho … cals r so low and the intesity levels are high… u dont even get a fee day … lool

any1 eles have experence on this diet?

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[quote]ovalpline wrote:
Julius_Caesar wrote:
I try the “functional” eating too, but to me food is part of the sensuality of life. While it’s necessary for survival, it is also something that you enjoy and I am having a hard time gnawing on meat, meat, meat 5 times a week.

hmmm… maybe you want to consider something very, very radical to gain a new perspective? …something along the lines of depriving yourself of what you have come to take for granted (no offense, here… we are all guilty of this in some way, shape, or form).

In this case, you seem to have lost an affinity for AD approved foods. A couple days or a week of a vegetable only diet may reinvigorate you and/or provide some new perspective on how you feel and certain foods contribute to your well-being.

I will say, though, I am not advocating this for you, it’s just a simple idea. Also, I have no personal experience of a detox type diet, although they have always intrigued me.

Still, the idea of eliminating things that we have taken for granted to gain new perspectives (oftentimes completely unexpected new perspectives or new perspectives on other aspects of life) is something that rings true for me.

Maybe this Radical Diet that a few of the thread members are trying out could have a similar effect. Whatever you do, do something.

-Stu[/quote]

I don’t know what you mean by taking stuff for granted. If anything, doing this diet is more expensive than your typical diet.

Honestly I don’t know what to do…

Perhaps I will never see a six pack until I try something like the v-diet.

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wow … im so hungry on the RD diet… i wish i can have mayo and butter again.

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[quote]Makaveli077 wrote:
wow … im so hungry on the RD diet… i wish i can have mayo and butter again.[/quote]

I didn’t have that until halfway the second week … how long are you on the RD ?

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[quote]LVZzed wrote:
Makaveli077 wrote:
wow … im so hungry on the RD diet… i wish i can have mayo and butter again.

I didn’t have that until halfway the second week … how long are you on the RD ?

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i get really hungry sometimes (for about 10 minutes) doing the RD on an off day after taking in 2500-3000 cals on a workout and sprint day…but its managable and i can deff see results in my training and in the mirror. Thanks AD&RD!

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[quote]bkmacky9288 wrote:
LVZzed wrote:
Makaveli077 wrote:
wow … im so hungry on the RD diet… i wish i can have mayo and butter again.

I didn’t have that until halfway the second week … how long are you on the RD ?

i get really hungry sometimes (for about 10 minutes) doing the RD on an off day after taking in 2500-3000 cals on a workout and sprint day…but its managable and i can deff see results in my training and in the mirror. Thanks AD&RD! [/quote]

ya buts its hard to go about it correctly… its uinder 1200 cals till about 800 cals a day for a 190 pound male working out and doing cardio… Bassically u need jet fuel in order to do this diet and supress ur appetite.

I love it becuz i see results but i d k … its hard

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[quote]Makaveli077 wrote:
bkmacky9288 wrote:
LVZzed wrote:
Makaveli077 wrote:
wow … im so hungry on the RD diet… i wish i can have mayo and butter again.

I didn’t have that until halfway the second week … how long are you on the RD ?

i get really hungry sometimes (for about 10 minutes) doing the RD on an off day after taking in 2500-3000 cals on a workout and sprint day…but its managable and i can deff see results in my training and in the mirror. Thanks AD&RD!

ya buts its hard to go about it correctly… its uinder 1200 cals till about 800 cals a day for a 190 pound male working out and doing cardio… Bassically u need jet fuel in order to do this diet and supress ur appetite.

I love it becuz i see results but i d k … its hard[/quote]

yea i know what you mean just hang in there kiddo

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Let’s bump this thread before it falls to page 2 :slight_smile:

Had myself an anabolic week last week, ate a lot and returned to split-style-training after 4 months of full-body training. Carbed up on rice, watermelon, grapes, etc, and got some comments on my physique - seems to me it’s starting to stand out from the crowd :slight_smile:

Rough weekend though, and I don’t think I’ll get around to train a lot this week - have a lot of work waiting! So I’ll be taking a few extra days off, and drop the kcals, RD-style … in the second half of the week I’ll see where I go from here.

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What I’ve learned is that one day carb-ups work best for me. Actually “cheat foods” work best for me. So on Saturday I had Surge, lifted (I do full body routines and begin with dead lifts), had another serving of Surge. Then I had gnnochi w/alfredo and chicken breast for lunch, some ice cream, carrot cake, and a slice of apple pie, and 1/2 a large supreme pizza from pizza hut for dinner.

I walked a couple of miles. Ate a total of 4200 cals. I take 1 gram of ALA about 20 minutes after a carby meal. And I eat lots of fiber tabs with the meals.

I woke up on Sunday looking tight. Felt great. No bloat. Then I had Surge, lifted (rehab, abs, some chins, and active recovery stuff) and Surge post-workout post-workout. No carbs after this.

It’s hot as hell here right now, so I was sweating like a mad man on Sunday. I could literally taste the salt in my sweat. (Each slice of pizza has one gram of sodium!)

Today I woke up very tight and looked better than ever.

I realize that, as a psychological matter, it’s wise to sweat out all of the excess sodium on Sunday. Maybe ride the exercise bike for 30 minutes while wearing a hoodie. I woke up today looking great and feeling ready for another week of hard training and low-carbing.

Gotta get that salt out of you to get that mental place. Otherwise, you’re a little bloated on the day when your muscles should be pumped and your skin tight. On Monday, you should look your best. A little bloat is demoralizing.

So far I’ve dropped 8 pounds (scale weight when “fully loaded.”) Been on the AD for 9 weeks, though the first two or three weeks I didn’t do dieting cals.

For the next couple of weeks, I’m going to eat to maintain my current weight. Still doing AD. I’ve been dieting for several months and need a break. Plus, I’m tired of constantly using dieting-induced Mikey Mouse weights. It’ll be fun to actually move some decent weight for a few weeks.

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How much do you guys on the RD weigh?

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[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
How much do you guys on the RD weigh? [/quote]

I’m just doing it 2 days a week and I’m down to 223 (depleated) from 235.

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[quote]josh.shafer wrote:
CaliforniaLaw wrote:
How much do you guys on the RD weigh?

I’m just doing it 2 days a week and I’m down to 223 (depleated) from 235.
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I’m impressed you can function on such low cals. I drop down to 1700 cals and almost faint.

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[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
How much do you guys on the RD weigh? [/quote]

160 depleted from 165…its funny on the AD im getting nice advnces in weight used, example ive added 20lbs on my bench since the start, but my weight has stayed pretty constant…my routine kind of sucks, working out at home, 3 times a i bench, military press, upright rows, bent rows, and dead lifts. followed by sprints so i can at least get some burn in on my thighs and legs. cant wait till the new gym opens up so i can get some work in.

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I’m on the RD a number of days throughout the week - my non-lifting days mostly, Idunno … I weigh about 220 pouns / 100 kilograms.

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[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
josh.shafer wrote:
CaliforniaLaw wrote:
How much do you guys on the RD weigh?

I’m just doing it 2 days a week and I’m down to 223 (depleated) from 235.

I’m impressed you can function on such low cals. I drop down to 1700 cals and almost faint.[/quote]

I don’t really function. On those days, I pretty much go to work and that’s it. I don’t try to do anything else.

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Hey bkmacky

Do you just own a bar or do you have db’s. When you reach your strenght limit for your current muscle mass your body should adapt by hypertrophy… as long as you are taking in sufficent calories.

OMC

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[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
What I’ve learned is that one day carb-ups work best for me. Actually “cheat foods” work best for me. So on Saturday I had Surge, lifted (I do full body routines and begin with dead lifts), had another serving of Surge. Then I had gnnochi w/alfredo and chicken breast for lunch, some ice cream, carrot cake, and a slice of apple pie, and 1/2 a large supreme pizza from pizza hut for dinner.

I walked a couple of miles. Ate a total of 4200 cals. I take 1 gram of ALA about 20 minutes after a carby meal. And I eat lots of fiber tabs with the meals.

I woke up on Sunday looking tight. Felt great. No bloat. Then I had Surge, lifted (rehab, abs, some chins, and active recovery stuff) and Surge post-workout post-workout. No carbs after this.

It’s hot as hell here right now, so I was sweating like a mad man on Sunday. I could literally taste the salt in my sweat. (Each slice of pizza has one gram of sodium!)

Today I woke up very tight and looked better than ever.

I realize that, as a psychological matter, it’s wise to sweat out all of the excess sodium on Sunday. Maybe ride the exercise bike for 30 minutes while wearing a hoodie. I woke up today looking great and feeling ready for another week of hard training and low-carbing.

Gotta get that salt out of you to get that mental place. Otherwise, you’re a little bloated on the day when your muscles should be pumped and your skin tight. On Monday, you should look your best. A little bloat is demoralizing.

So far I’ve dropped 8 pounds (scale weight when “fully loaded.”) Been on the AD for 9 weeks, though the first two or three weeks I didn’t do dieting cals.

For the next couple of weeks, I’m going to eat to maintain my current weight. Still doing AD. I’ve been dieting for several months and need a break. Plus, I’m tired of constantly using dieting-induced Mikey Mouse weights. It’ll be fun to actually move some decent weight for a few weeks.[/quote]

Same here. On my carb up “day” I end up lifting and doing at least another 1.5hrs of walking.

I have found that there is a certian kind of pizza that works wonders. On the Ocean City NJ boardwalk there is a place that sells these huge slices of pizza with almost no gravy (sauce for you non Itai’s). For some reason, this pizza does not bloat me one friggin bit. Actually, I feel great after eating it. I usually get a buffalo chicken slice, which has huge chunks of chicken breast and a lil buffalo sauce squirted on it…and, a slice of spinach and tomato. Total awesomeness. Then I end up walkin the boardwalk for upwards on an hour.

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Just out of interest, what amounts of calories are you guys eating for cutting 1-2lbs pw…and whats your weight?

Ive been bulking on the AD for 9 weeks now…and looking forward to cutting, doing what the book says, lowering 500 per week, and keeping an eye on the scale, but its gunna take a while since i was eating so much on the bulk!

cheers

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[quote]BrotherO wrote:
Just out of interest, what amounts of calories are you guys eating for cutting 1-2lbs pw…and whats your weight?
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Started at 215. Down to 205 after 9 weeks (with deliberately no weight loss the first two to three weeks.) I “zig zag” from 1900 cals (on Sunday) up to 2800 calories with an average weekly consumption (including carb-up day) of 2700 cals. If you take away the carb-up day (usually 4,000 - 4,500 cals), I average closer to 2600.

YMMV.

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[quote]OMC wrote:
Hey bkmacky

Do you just own a bar or do you have db’s. When you reach your strenght limit for your current muscle mass your body should adapt by hypertrophy… as long as you are taking in sufficent calories.

OMC[/quote]

yea i have an olympic bar and bench and 2 sets of DB’s that are too light (45 and 25) w/ 300 lbs of weight for the bar