My Experience On the Anabolic Diet

Nutrition
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I’m not super active outside of the gym= I am a tattooer so I am either sitting down tattooing or sitting down drawing tattoos. I used to live in Europe and was much leaner which I attribute to riding my bike and walking everywhere so I will be buying a bike sometime this month and riding to and from work, which is only about two and a half miles but I figure it’s better than nothing.

I walk my dog in the mornings and lift as heavy as possible 3 times a week. I am 26 and just nipped a bit of a drinking problem in the bud which I think contributed to my crappy physique more than anything.

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Hmm …
since this is a feel-good thread after all: yesterday I had the first of this year’s barbecues in my back yard. Had a lot of tasty meat. And a lot of leftovers to finish today :slight_smile:
Just had a heavy workout too, so that will come in handy. No cooking for Elviz! Long live this heavy-training-eating-very-much-week …

I’m sticking with the cycling on and off the RD as a side-step plan, varying my calories all over the place …

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I’ll echo what Sharetrader is telling you and add that the 18xBW figure isn’t some sort of magic formula.

The idea is that the induction takes a bit of control and discipline to begin with and Doc doesn’t want hunger to be the breaking point.

The good news is that within the first week or so you’ll be dropping weight fairly rapidly…I say weight, because it’s not necessarily fat just yet -but water and glycogen. But regardless, you’ll begin to look and feel leaner…and that’s a good thing!

peace

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[quote]josh.shafer wrote:
bkmacky9288 wrote:
josh.shafer wrote:
LVZzed wrote:
The RD is fun :slight_smile: I was surprised at how high my energy still was at 800/1200 kcals, but I’m gonna have a week of higher kcals now.

Two weeks of very-low-cls made me lose some fat, but are now starting to 1. annoy me and 2. make me lift less volume
I feel like lifting a lot still, but I just … can’t … get … it … done.

Now carbing up :slight_smile:

Hey, LVZzed,

I saw where you asked if I was still around a couple of pages ago. I just got back from vacation, so yes, I’m still around. I was just away from my computer for about a week.

I found it very hard to follow the RD while visiting family, as I would have found it very hard to demand chicken for every meal. I’ve still been cycling the RD and AD, though, with good success.

I’ve completely scrapped the idea of using the RD while weight training, though, as I was hitting the weights too damn hard to make it work. I’ll continue to use the RD 2-3 days a week until I hit my goal weight.

I hope things are going well for you.

your 2-3 days idea sounds like a good one i believe ill try this so that i may still keep up my intensity. Day 1 800 cals, 2 1000 cals, 3 1200. I was thinking going at what i can lift and then add 5lbs on my normal calorie days like ive done before.

And then for carb ups i was thinking that i have a normal all clean whatever i want carb saturday and then sunday restrict to 2000 to prepare for the lower calories starting monday.

I just do a flat 1200 cals a day. It really isn’t that hard to maintain if I’m not lifting that day and I just kind of take it easy.

I don’t think its so important to change caloric intake for the 3 RD days. IMO, you’d be just as successful hitting the same goal cals each day. Also, I don’t think it’s as important to hit 2000 the day before to “get ready for the drop”. I’ve been getting 2700-3000 on weight training days and doing 1200 on my RD days. It’s a nice little shock to the system and since I don’t do it everyday, I don’t think it’s hurting my metabolism. Just make sure you take a fish oil cap with every meal.

This has been working well for me, as I’ve been dropping weight and my lifts have been maintaining. Hell, I’ve even set pr’s on all 3 big lifts recently. Enough rambling from me. Let me know how it goes for you.

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i believe the RD cycling is working out…today i came to school after taking a monday off (senior day…nice little privelage) and i was told i looked buffer and leaner…and this was after a week of RD and the 3 days ive started this week

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[quote]brunottfn wrote:
Avocado wrote:
xtolgax wrote:
eDave wrote:
Stingblood wrote:
Hello Guys!

I am really trying to find some muffins or any kind of on-the-go food that is high protein, low carb (low or high fat) that I can take with mee when I am on the road…but please no protein bars with these polyols and other because they are sugars…Does anyone have an idea of something that can just be cooked or any other suggestion

Hi All. I’ve been lurking here since oh, mid-December when I started on the AD. Thanks to all for the insights so far. I’ve been enjoying the diet, and as background on myself - I’m 32 yrs old and sitting around 160 lbs and 14% bodyfat, hoping to get to about 180 lbs and 10-12% bodyfat.

I recently came across the following very quick, easy, and tasty microwave flax muffin recipe that’s too good not to share with you fine folks, given the above question:

1/4 cup flax meal
1/2 teaspoon baking powder
1 packet splenda
1 teaspoon cinnamon
1 large egg
1 teaspoon of butter

  1. Put dry ingredients in a coffee mug (or bowl for different shape)
  2. Stir
  3. Add egg and butter. Mix.

Microwave 1 minute on high. Take out, slice, butter, enjoy.

Serving size: 1
Notes: 1.5 net carbs
Per serving: 235 calories; 18g fat (63% calories from fat); 12g protein; 11g carbs (mostly fibre); 223mg cholesterol; 284mg sodium.

oh my god I love you.

I just made one of these, despite my suspicions, and it was pretty amazing. Reminds me a lot of a great bran muffin served at a diner back home. I may have one of these every morning with my coffee.

thank you thank you thank you thank you

Holy rhino vagina!

I made one of these out of pure curiosity and they are out of this world. I’m adding nuts to my next one. these things are awsome as hell, I can’t believe it. plus think about the fiber! It’s poopy time kids!

-chris

i just made one tasty,but there is 4 tablespoons in a1/4 cup

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Holy fucking frijoles!!!

I just made one of these sumbitches and oh my fucking god!!! It almost seems like I’m breaking the guidelines of the AD by eating one. I think I’ll be enjoying at least one of these a day from now on.

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[quote]mastodon wrote:
I’m not super active outside of the gym= I am a tattooer so I am either sitting down tattooing or sitting down drawing tattoos. I used to live in Europe and was much leaner which I attribute to riding my bike and walking everywhere so I will be buying a bike sometime this month and riding to and from work, which is only about two and a half miles but I figure it’s better than nothing.

I walk my dog in the mornings and lift as heavy as possible 3 times a week. I am 26 and just nipped a bit of a drinking problem in the bud which I think contributed to my crappy physique more than anything.[/quote]

Good work on the drinking. That would have killed the AD. Given that you are intending to up your exercise level, I think starting at 18xbw would probably be OK. You may find that this is more than you usually eat!

Another hint: if you have the space, get a punching bag and mitts. Anytime you feel cravings for the grog, go and belt the hell out of the bag for 10 mins. You will feel so good afterwards you will never succumb to the craving. In fact, belt the hell out of the bag every day, regardless!

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hey all,
i didnt want to ask until i had read a lot of the thread… but i was gettin bored around page 15, so just decided to hop around a bit. good thing i didnt just go page by page cuz 207+ would be killer hahaha

im just finishign up velocity diet. i will have 2 week transition back to whole foods, then im goin on vacation that involves heavy drinking. i plan on gettin back on a thursday, readjusting, and then starting AD that monday…

what say you? good strategy. i feel like the carbs wont be an issue b/c other than beach week, i am only gettin about 60 a day anyway. thanks for your time,
nate

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[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
hey all,
i didnt want to ask until i had read a lot of the thread… but i was gettin bored around page 15, so just decided to hop around a bit. good thing i didnt just go page by page cuz 207+ would be killer hahaha

im just finishign up velocity diet. i will have 2 week transition back to whole foods, then im goin on vacation that involves heavy drinking. i plan on gettin back on a thursday, readjusting, and then starting AD that monday…

what say you? good strategy. i feel like the carbs wont be an issue b/c other than beach week, i am only gettin about 60 a day anyway. thanks for your time,
nate[/quote]

Strategy is fine except for the heavy drinking. That will likely screw all the gains you made on the velocity diet.

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[quote]sharetrader wrote:
coolnatedawg wrote:
hey all,
i didnt want to ask until i had read a lot of the thread… but i was gettin bored around page 15, so just decided to hop around a bit. good thing i didnt just go page by page cuz 207+ would be killer hahaha

im just finishign up velocity diet. i will have 2 week transition back to whole foods, then im goin on vacation that involves heavy drinking. i plan on gettin back on a thursday, readjusting, and then starting AD that monday…

what say you? good strategy. i feel like the carbs wont be an issue b/c other than beach week, i am only gettin about 60 a day anyway. thanks for your time,
nate

Strategy is fine except for the heavy drinking. That will likely screw all the gains you made on the velocity diet.[/quote]

yea i know… thats what im worried about the most. its only 3 nights, and most likely i will keep it in moderation as the vdiet has me bascially not caring about drinkin. but im just goin to play by ear, because im young and can do things like that, and its celebratin the end of the year and bad girls… hahah. i dont think 3 nights of drinkin will make me gain back the 20+lbs i have lost. and besides, even if it does, i should be droppin some weight on the maintenance part of AD i think.

i know too well that i put in too much effort on vdiet (and money), and i wont be tryin to throw that off. i guess i spoke too soon when i said heavy drinking.

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[quote]josh.shafer wrote:
brunottfn wrote:
Avocado wrote:
xtolgax wrote:
eDave wrote:
Stingblood wrote:
Hello Guys!

I am really trying to find some muffins or any kind of on-the-go food that is high protein, low carb (low or high fat) that I can take with mee when I am on the road…but please no protein bars with these polyols and other because they are sugars…Does anyone have an idea of something that can just be cooked or any other suggestion

Hi All. I’ve been lurking here since oh, mid-December when I started on the AD. Thanks to all for the insights so far. I’ve been enjoying the diet, and as background on myself - I’m 32 yrs old and sitting around 160 lbs and 14% bodyfat, hoping to get to about 180 lbs and 10-12% bodyfat.

I recently came across the following very quick, easy, and tasty microwave flax muffin recipe that’s too good not to share with you fine folks, given the above question:

1/4 cup flax meal
1/2 teaspoon baking powder
1 packet splenda
1 teaspoon cinnamon
1 large egg
1 teaspoon of butter

  1. Put dry ingredients in a coffee mug (or bowl for different shape)
  2. Stir
  3. Add egg and butter. Mix.

Microwave 1 minute on high. Take out, slice, butter, enjoy.

Serving size: 1
Notes: 1.5 net carbs
Per serving: 235 calories; 18g fat (63% calories from fat); 12g protein; 11g carbs (mostly fibre); 223mg cholesterol; 284mg sodium.

oh my god I love you.

I just made one of these, despite my suspicions, and it was pretty amazing. Reminds me a lot of a great bran muffin served at a diner back home. I may have one of these every morning with my coffee.

thank you thank you thank you thank you

Holy rhino vagina!

I made one of these out of pure curiosity and they are out of this world. I’m adding nuts to my next one. these things are awsome as hell, I can’t believe it. plus think about the fiber! It’s poopy time kids!

-chris

i just made one tasty,but there is 4 tablespoons in a1/4 cup

Holy fucking frijoles!!!

I just made one of these sumbitches and oh my fucking god!!! It almost seems like I’m breaking the guidelines of the AD by eating one. I think I’ll be enjoying at least one of these a day from now on.

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this is by god an almighty treat! btw when you hike the cals up how does your image in the mirror reflect? im liking the the effects the RD have had on me so far for the past week but tomorrow im going to normal cals because i dont like that after 2 workouts on the RD my deadlift starts to faulter.

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What is the RD?

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[quote]allNatural wrote:
What is the RD?[/quote]

its the AD except calorie restricted to the max 800-1200 calories…thats all i know…and a few of us, including myself, are cycling it. me perssonally for reserving/gaining muscle and losing fat.

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[quote]bkmacky9288 wrote:

btw when you hike the cals up how does your image in the mirror reflect? im liking the the effects the RD have had on me so far for the past week but tomorrow im going to normal cals because i dont like that after 2 workouts on the RD my deadlift starts to faulter.[/quote]

For the low carb days, I’m only taking in 2700 cals, so the mirror looks normal- or actually, it looks a hell of a lot better because the winter fat is just falling off. My carb ups are a hell of a lot higher in cals. If I just eat every 3 hours, I’ve found that I don’t have any problems with CHO ups. If I eat nonstop all day, I get fat.

Keep in mind, my RD days don’t go on for weeks at a time. I just do it on nontraining days and 2-3 days a week max. I don’t ever stay on it long enough to get the negative metabolic effects that would cause me to look like hell warmed over by eating 2700 cals. Make sense?

As for your lifts going down… you’ll have to remind me, are you lifting with any intensity and volume on RD days. I tried to do this and fried my CNS. This could have a lot to do with your problem. I’ve decided that the way I like to lift won’t allow for the RD on training days. Gots to eat the fat.

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For those who have switched to the rad diet or are cycling it. Just be sure you have enough mass to justify it and aren’t damaging your overall progress.

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Yeah, I tend to go for that kind of pattern too. Did heavy lifting on monday and tuesday - ate a lot. Yesterday, day off: low-cal, RD-style eating.

Today and tomorrow are training days, so I’m gonna be eating quite a lot again …

It seems like a great idea to really switch up calories every day, according to my needs.

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[quote]OMC wrote:
For those who have switched to the rad diet or are cycling it. Just be sure you have enough mass to justify it and aren’t damaging your overall progress.[/quote]

Good point, I could use some extra mass to later on cut down on the fat …

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[quote]OMC wrote:
For those who have switched to the rad diet or are cycling it. Just be sure you have enough mass to justify it and aren’t damaging your overall progress.[/quote]

This is good advice.

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I tried something different. Took in about 50 grams of carbs last night from dried papaya strips and sugar-coated ginger. Woke up with nice vascularity and terrific muscle hardness. Had a terrific workout.

I’m thinking I’ll do this mid-week “carb-up” next week. The night before lifting, I’ll have 50-75 grams of carbs from fruit.

Also did a 2-day carb-up last week for the first time. After one day I woke up pumped and hard. The day after the second day of carbs, I was a bloated slob.

So it’s one day carb-ups (I had been doing these anyway, but have not verified the prudence in this); and a weekly mini-carb spike with fruit only.

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I’ve been carbing up for the full 2 days for sometime now and just switched to one every 5 days because of that monday bloat. For the time being I just want to build more muscle with out getting fat and so far this diet has been working great. I put on 15 lbs, my 31 in. waist pants still fit fine, my strength goes up every workout, and I have lots of energy.

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[quote]josh.shafer wrote:
bkmacky9288 wrote:

btw when you hike the cals up how does your image in the mirror reflect? im liking the the effects the RD have had on me so far for the past week but tomorrow im going to normal cals because i dont like that after 2 workouts on the RD my deadlift starts to faulter.

For the low carb days, I’m only taking in 2700 cals, so the mirror looks normal- or actually, it looks a hell of a lot better because the winter fat is just falling off. My carb ups are a hell of a lot higher in cals. If I just eat every 3 hours, I’ve found that I don’t have any problems with CHO ups. If I eat nonstop all day, I get fat.

Keep in mind, my RD days don’t go on for weeks at a time. I just do it on nontraining days and 2-3 days a week max. I don’t ever stay on it long enough to get the negative metabolic effects that would cause me to look like hell warmed over by eating 2700 cals. Make sense?

As for your lifts going down… you’ll have to remind me, are you lifting with any intensity and volume on RD days. I tried to do this and fried my CNS. This could have a lot to do with your problem. I’ve decided that the way I like to lift won’t allow for the RD on training days. Gots to eat the fat.

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thats a good idea ill ill just save training for AD days and off on RD days. which would probably consist of 1-2 days