My Experience On the Anabolic Diet

Nutrition
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low carb chocolate…idk how bout doing what I do which is protein powder and adding pure %100 cocoa to it full of all the antioxidants and nothing else. By itself it is really bitter but with protein powder is becomes sweet and maybe some cottage cheese. I just like to use carbs for mroe veggies or nuts etcc…

As far as what to drop fat or protein when cutting, I’ve done fat. I know some people say protein or keep the 60 fat to 30 perecent protein ratio, but I basically keep protein stable at 1.5 grm per lbs of bd and then adjust fat depending om bulk or cut. Cutting I’ve gone as low as about 60% pro and 30% fat and energy is still fine. However, like alot of things with this diet its AFTER FAT ADAPATION using a more 60% fat diet. I’ve before done 60% protein 30% fat without adapting and that sucked big time. But again its individual, but I find once fat adapated I get best results dropping fat only and keeping protein.

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hey all,

first time poster, long time reader.

i stumbled across this thread about two weeks ago, and wanted to tell you guys how much i love it. As i post this i’m almost done with day six. Even this early my energy levels are very high, my strength has gone up, and i feel and look visibly leaner. Prior to this, i was on a lower carbohydrate diet, so i think that could explain the lack of crash. My father had also lost over 100lb rather quickly on the atkin’s diet, so i feel like i may have always been sensative to carbs, making this diet ideal for me.

Anyway, wanted to thank you all for the knowledge that you openly share, and just had a question or two:

Does anyone know if there is any significant amount of carbs in prepackaged diced turkey? You know, the kind that they use to put in omlets and such.

Also, was looking for a little input on my diet. I think it’s pretty darn good, but was looking for other opinions.

Pre-cardio
one scoop ON whey
packet of BCAAs (animal nitro)

Meal 1 (post-cardio)
4 eggs
chedder cheese
diced turkey

Meal 2 (post w/o)
4 eggs
chedder cheese
diced turkey

Meal 3
steak(5-6 oz)
1 tbsp EFA oil (has flax,omega3,6,9, linigens)
broccoli

Meal 4
steak(5-6oz)
1 tbsp EFA oil
broccoli

Meal 5
half cup almonds
2 tbsp Smart balance omega natty pb

Meals are usually eaten 2 1/2-3 hours apart. i also take a packet of BCAAs before my workout. I hit the weights about an hour and a half after my cardio session. In regards to cardio, it’s done 5x a week for 50mins low to medium intensity on the elliptical. Doing this diet for fatloss. also taking ec stack, 50e/200c on weekdays. also in addition to the cardio i do, i’m also walking an additional 30-40 mins daily going to and from classes.

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[quote]xtolgax wrote:
can you suggest a brand of the low carb chocolate you’re eating? I’ve been able to find some with oligofructose, but they still contain some form of sugar alcohol.
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I’m drawing a blank on the brand. I’ll try making it to the organic store tomorrow.

Here’s a pretty good bar:

It does have some erythritol in it.

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[quote]LVZzed wrote:

That reminds me, I need to get my fish oil caps in before bedtime!

Hunger isn’t different from much-calorie-days actually. Even helped a friend move some furniture to his new house AFTER training ( got hungry then but had me some pre-bed snacks right now ). I seem to be actually more focused now that I’m low-cal. We’ll see where it goes. Training was alright, didn’t go too heavy really, maybe tomorrow I’ll try to dig deeper :slight_smile:

Oh, and a funny one: I actually ate an apple today. They’re listed as fiber-rich foods in the Radical Diet book… h?h?. got me close to my 30gr limit there though.

So today I had: a can of tuna in oil / 2* 2eggs with a bit of bacon / a tiny slice of salami ( say 15 grams, it’s quite dense at 436 kcal/100gr ) / lifting session / whey shake with spoon of EVOO / an apple, some cottage cheese, with some whey … and soon, some fish oil :slight_smile:

Cool, really … not hungry even though I’m 6ft 3in and 225 lbs, and body fat say about 16 or 17% ( never had that accurately measured )

But yeah I seem to like this diet. My food supply will last a lot longer, that’s for sure, h?h?.
Depending on how much time ( and energy ! ) I’ve got, tomorrow will either be a lifting session or some HIIT cardio stuff for me.[/quote]

Speaking of digging deeper, I had to do just that in the weight room yesterday. My lifts were fine, but mentally, I was a little off.

Besides that, the only problems I’ve been having is that the HOT-ROX is upsetting my stomach in the morning. It’s kind of helpful in a weird kind of way because my fiber has been too low.

Anyway, I just wanted to express my unease with your desire to do HIIT on 1200 cals and minimal carbs. It just sounds like a bad idea to me. I haven’t done anything, but lift heavy weights and walk uphill since I started this thing. I could be wrong, but I just wanted to tell you what I thought. Good luck with another day!

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Point well taken actually … HIIT might be too damn much. Hungrier today, especially towards the evening, but not … extremely, just hungrier than on my +3000cals-days ( duh ).

I’ll go lift some heavy stuff in an instant, feel like it … then maybe later tonight a walk or bike ride, sounds relaxing and not too taxing !

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…and an update shortly after lifting: still feel good really, and did some heavy lifting. Maybe a bit less sets though, but kept the density high, and the weights pretty heavy. Feels good, and I can already see a change in the mirror. Lost a good pound since sunday too.

Watching a local soccer game on the TV here now, afterwards I’ll go for a relaxing bike ride at a moderate pace, get some fresh air :slight_smile:

Food today: Can of tuna in sunflower oil, 22eggs with 250grams of bacon, 4 almonds ( yes I counted’em, they were in my desk drawer at work ), a tiny slice of very dense salami ( see previous post ), a few blocks of diced chicken my mother had made ( I’ll eat some more of that in a hwile :slight_smile: ), and now had a whey+EVOO shake, and 4 BCAA + 2 fish oil capsules…
Next up: some chicken, a walk/bike ride, and some cottage cheese!

This radical diet is radical :slight_smile:

Oh, and about some supplements I take to help me get through: fish oil caps, bcaa caps, whey powder, those are standard & mentioned already.
In the morning I have a thermogenic fatburner ( yellow subs ), around training some fatreleaser tablets ( mostly l-carnitin ), for fiber I have whole flax seeds I mix in my shakes or take with some water as well as some generic fiber tablets, furthermore there’s a multivitamin, zinc tablets, green and black tea throughout the day, and some sleep-well-tablets ( melatonin, valerian root, … ) to cool me down at bedtime.

Come to think of it, that seems like a lot…

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Hello Guys!

I am really trying to find some muffins or any kind of on-the-go food that is high protein, low carb (low or high fat) that I can take with mee when I am on the road…but please no protein bars with these polyols and other because they are sugars…Does anyone have an idea of something that can just be cooked or any other suggestion

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[quote]Stingblood wrote:
Hello Guys!

I am really trying to find some muffins or any kind of on-the-go food that is high protein, low carb (low or high fat) that I can take with mee when I am on the road…but please no protein bars with these polyols and other because they are sugars…Does anyone have an idea of something that can just be cooked or any other suggestion[/quote]

Hi All. I’ve been lurking here since oh, mid-December when I started on the AD. Thanks to all for the insights so far. I’ve been enjoying the diet, and as background on myself - I’m 32 yrs old and sitting around 160 lbs and 14% bodyfat, hoping to get to about 180 lbs and 10-12% bodyfat.

I recently came across the following very quick, easy, and tasty microwave flax muffin recipe that’s too good not to share with you fine folks, given the above question:

1/4 cup flax meal
1/2 teaspoon baking powder
1 packet splenda
1 teaspoon cinnamon
1 large egg
1 teaspoon of butter

  1. Put dry ingredients in a coffee mug (or bowl for different shape)
  2. Stir
  3. Add egg and butter. Mix.

Microwave 1 minute on high. Take out, slice, butter, enjoy.

Serving size: 1
Notes: 1.5 net carbs
Per serving: 235 calories; 18g fat (63% calories from fat); 12g protein; 11g carbs (mostly fibre); 223mg cholesterol; 284mg sodium.

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[quote]Stingblood wrote:
Hello Guys!

I am really trying to find some muffins or any kind of on-the-go food that is high protein, low carb (low or high fat) that I can take with mee when I am on the road…but please no protein bars with these polyols and other because they are sugars…Does anyone have an idea of something that can just be cooked or any other suggestion[/quote]

Uhhhh… protein powder shakes?

Beef jerky
pepperoni sticks
Mixed nuts
any veggie with some dip
canned fish
hard-boiled eggs
egg salad
Leftover bacon
string cheese (yuk)
regular cheese
hotdogs
Smokies (can be eaten wihout cooking ah la kobasa)

the list goes on.

-chris

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Had two more questions i just thought of:

What if we’re eating less then 30 grams of carbs a day on our non carb up days? I think i may be consuming around 10g or less.

Also, for a few days my urine was smelling really stinky, indicating that i was passing ketones. Now this doesn’t happen anymore despite me not changing anything.

Infact, i may even consume less carbs now than i did before. My question is, does me no longer passing ketones in my urine indicate something? what does it mean?

right now i’m in the middle of my 7th day of induction…

maybe it’s important to note i was previously on a pretty low carb diet beforehand…about 100g a day maybe a bit less.

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[quote]Train_smart wrote:
Had two more questions i just thought of:

What if we’re eating less then 30 grams of carbs a day on our non carb up days? I think i may be consuming around 10g or less.

Also, for a few days my urine was smelling really stinky, indicating that i was passing ketones. Now this doesn’t happen anymore despite me not changing anything.

Infact, i may even consume less carbs now than i did before. My question is, does me no longer passing ketones in my urine indicate something? what does it mean?

right now i’m in the middle of my 7th day of induction…

maybe it’s important to note i was previously on a pretty low carb diet beforehand…about 100g a day maybe a bit less.[/quote]

It may mean a lot of things. There also may just be LESS ketones so that you can’t smell it. Likely it means that you are in gluconeogenesis less and using lipid pathways more now. As you transition (after about 2 or more months) you should be almost entirely using lipid pathways.

-chris

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[quote]eDave wrote:
Stingblood wrote:
Hello Guys!

I am really trying to find some muffins or any kind of on-the-go food that is high protein, low carb (low or high fat) that I can take with mee when I am on the road…but please no protein bars with these polyols and other because they are sugars…Does anyone have an idea of something that can just be cooked or any other suggestion

Hi All. I’ve been lurking here since oh, mid-December when I started on the AD. Thanks to all for the insights so far. I’ve been enjoying the diet, and as background on myself - I’m 32 yrs old and sitting around 160 lbs and 14% bodyfat, hoping to get to about 180 lbs and 10-12% bodyfat.

I recently came across the following very quick, easy, and tasty microwave flax muffin recipe that’s too good not to share with you fine folks, given the above question:

1/4 cup flax meal
1/2 teaspoon baking powder
1 packet splenda
1 teaspoon cinnamon
1 large egg
1 teaspoon of butter

  1. Put dry ingredients in a coffee mug (or bowl for different shape)
  2. Stir
  3. Add egg and butter. Mix.

Microwave 1 minute on high. Take out, slice, butter, enjoy.

Serving size: 1
Notes: 1.5 net carbs
Per serving: 235 calories; 18g fat (63% calories from fat); 12g protein; 11g carbs (mostly fibre); 223mg cholesterol; 284mg sodium.

[/quote]

That looks insanely easy, i’m gonna try that one this weekend. Thanks

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[quote]eDave wrote:
Stingblood wrote:
Hello Guys!

I am really trying to find some muffins or any kind of on-the-go food that is high protein, low carb (low or high fat) that I can take with mee when I am on the road…but please no protein bars with these polyols and other because they are sugars…Does anyone have an idea of something that can just be cooked or any other suggestion

Hi All. I’ve been lurking here since oh, mid-December when I started on the AD. Thanks to all for the insights so far. I’ve been enjoying the diet, and as background on myself - I’m 32 yrs old and sitting around 160 lbs and 14% bodyfat, hoping to get to about 180 lbs and 10-12% bodyfat.

I recently came across the following very quick, easy, and tasty microwave flax muffin recipe that’s too good not to share with you fine folks, given the above question:

1/4 cup flax meal
1/2 teaspoon baking powder
1 packet splenda
1 teaspoon cinnamon
1 large egg
1 teaspoon of butter

  1. Put dry ingredients in a coffee mug (or bowl for different shape)
  2. Stir
  3. Add egg and butter. Mix.

Microwave 1 minute on high. Take out, slice, butter, enjoy.

Serving size: 1
Notes: 1.5 net carbs
Per serving: 235 calories; 18g fat (63% calories from fat); 12g protein; 11g carbs (mostly fibre); 223mg cholesterol; 284mg sodium.

[/quote]

oh my god I love you.

I just made one of these, despite my suspicions, and it was pretty amazing. Reminds me a lot of a great bran muffin served at a diner back home. I may have one of these every morning with my coffee.

thank you thank you thank you thank you

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[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
I must say that the diet gets easier every week. I could do it standing on my head.

I forgot that last week I carbed-up on Friday. (I usually do Saturday carb-ups.) So I didn’t eat any carbs today… didn’t give it any mind. If the carb-up weren’t necessary, I’d likely skip it this week.

I look forward to carbs less and less. I’m not excited to know that in a few hours, I get to eat buckwheat pancakes w/strawberries and maple syrup. Once I start eating them, though… that’s another story.

I hit 206 today. That’s the lowest I’ve weighed in several years. Fat loss had stalled, however, until I introduced a mega dose of fish oil into my diet ten days ago. Has made a huge difference. [/quote]

It is easy at first, but when you have been on it for 6 months it gets really heard at times. I miss my pasta, whole wheat bread and bagels, rice and breaded stuff. Oh yes and sweets too…

Especially if your family members/coworkers eat that kind of stuff in front of you…

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[quote]Julius_Caesar wrote:
CaliforniaLaw wrote:
I must say that the diet gets easier every week. I could do it standing on my head.

I forgot that last week I carbed-up on Friday. (I usually do Saturday carb-ups.) So I didn’t eat any carbs today… didn’t give it any mind. If the carb-up weren’t necessary, I’d likely skip it this week.

I look forward to carbs less and less. I’m not excited to know that in a few hours, I get to eat buckwheat pancakes w/strawberries and maple syrup. Once I start eating them, though… that’s another story.

I hit 206 today. That’s the lowest I’ve weighed in several years. Fat loss had stalled, however, until I introduced a mega dose of fish oil into my diet ten days ago. Has made a huge difference.

It is easy at first, but when you have been on it for 6 months it gets really heard at times. I miss my pasta, whole wheat bread and bagels, rice and breaded stuff. Oh yes and sweets too…

Especially if your family members/coworkers eat that kind of stuff in front of you…
[/quote]

so why don’t you eat that too on weekends? Are you getting the results you want from the AD?

I thought you said in a different thread that you were doing fine reaching your goals with a low fat diet?

The idea is that you can eat almost anything on this diet, just on different days.

-chris

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Just realised such an easy meal AD style…

PORK SCRATCHINGS!!! can get them in bags of 80g in the uk and per 100g are 48.6protein, 45.7fat, 1.6carbs…such good ratios…its just pig skin…yay!that replaces my morning bag of nuts!

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[quote]BrotherO wrote:
Just realised such an easy meal AD style…

PORK SCRATCHINGS!!! can get them in bags of 80g in the uk and per 100g are 48.6protein, 45.7fat, 1.6carbs…such good ratios…its just pig skin…yay!that replaces my morning bag of nuts![/quote]

…the fat is fat -true enough…but from what I remember the protein found in this ‘snack’ is very incomplete…marginal at best, actually.

I’m certainly not trying to shoot down your ‘discovery’…just say’n it’s more in the realm of snack’n than real nutrition.
That’s all :wink:

peace

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[quote]BrotherO wrote:
Just realised such an easy meal AD style…

PORK SCRATCHINGS!!! can get them in bags of 80g in the uk and per 100g are 48.6protein, 45.7fat, 1.6carbs…such good ratios…its just pig skin…yay!that replaces my morning bag of nuts![/quote]

there shouldnt be any carbs if its orginial flavered… Read the ingridents , if they say Pork Reins , Salt … you have no carbs in there my friend

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[quote]BrotherO wrote:
Just realised such an easy meal AD style…

PORK SCRATCHINGS!!! can get them in bags of 80g in the uk and per 100g are 48.6protein, 45.7fat, 1.6carbs…such good ratios…its just pig skin…yay!that replaces my morning bag of nuts![/quote]

Yeah and this will likely fill your sat fat intake for the day. I find I would rather spend my sat fat intake on meats, because they are better (the best?) protein.

After eating too many of those pork rinds you would have to focus on only eating mono and poly fat sources. Great for a snack but it can fuk up your sat/mono/poly ratios.

-chris

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[quote]Julius_Caesar wrote:
It is easy at first, but when you have been on it for 6 months it gets really heard at times. I miss my pasta, whole wheat bread and bagels, rice and breaded stuff. Oh yes and sweets too…

Especially if your family members/coworkers eat that kind of stuff in front of you…
[/quote]

I never really cared for bread and pasta - unless it had alfredo sauce on it! I learned on this diet that I love fat. Stuff like pasta is nothing but a place holder for delicious fat. So I eat my pesto and alfredo sauce right on top of the chicken. Yum!

Only thing I miss is pizza. But I often tear the toppings off. This is 75% as good. And, really, I only have to miss pizza for a 5 or 6 days each week.

And on any diet, you’d have to do miss out on pizza and sweets. So the AD is no harder than any other diet in that regard.

You sound like you are simply frustrated with dieting in general. I can relate. I have been dieting in some form for about a six months. (I took time off to eat at maintenance cals, but that’s it.)

This is my last phase of dieting. I could actually stop now, if I wanted to; as I’m where I wanted to be. Just out of curiosity, I want to see how much more weight I can lose.