My Experience On the Anabolic Diet

[quote]bkmacky9288 wrote:
Bizmark wrote:
bkmacky9288 wrote:
dammit! i think my body is dying…after doing 30 reps of benching and 30 deads and however many curls and shoulder presses and my grip is gone and ive only trained 20-25 minutes!!!wtf…does anyone think im just worrying too much or whats the deal you think

usually that many reps uses alot of muscle glycogen, or so ive been led to believe… so if its been a while since youve carbed up then your prob a bit low on the glycofuel…

well i just did my carbup…i was quite tired all day because of my weekend sleeping patterns…but tomorrow im just gonna man up and do 2-4 more compound exercises with 30 reps…i need to lose some body fat
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yo dude for the fat loss rock the high rep bodyweight movements like: clap push ups, jump squats, box jumps, burpees etc.
And/or do some take down drilling.

I find this works much better than using non-bodyweight because it is less taxing on the nerves. the weighted moves, even though compound, are very focused on their nervous system effect. Whereas many body weight moves are more dispersed in their CNS effect. This will keep you fresher for wrestling. How many wrestling sessions do you get in per week??

-chris

Hey guys, on day 10 now of the start up phase…Havnt crashed yet! Is it normal for guys to just go on until the first carb up without crashing??

Thanks

[quote]realpeanutbutter wrote:
bkmacky9288 wrote:
Bizmark wrote:
bkmacky9288 wrote:
dammit! i think my body is dying…after doing 30 reps of benching and 30 deads and however many curls and shoulder presses and my grip is gone and ive only trained 20-25 minutes!!!wtf…does anyone think im just worrying too much or whats the deal you think

usually that many reps uses alot of muscle glycogen, or so ive been led to believe… so if its been a while since youve carbed up then your prob a bit low on the glycofuel…

well i just did my carbup…i was quite tired all day because of my weekend sleeping patterns…but tomorrow im just gonna man up and do 2-4 more compound exercises with 30 reps…i need to lose some body fat

yo dude for the fat loss rock the high rep bodyweight movements like: clap push ups, jump squats, box jumps, burpees etc.
And/or do some take down drilling.

I find this works much better than using non-bodyweight because it is less taxing on the nerves. the weighted moves, even though compound, are very focused on their nervous system effect. Whereas many body weight moves are more dispersed in their CNS effect. This will keep you fresher for wrestling. How many wrestling sessions do you get in per week??

-chris[/quote]

well we just had states so the season is over and i popped my knee cap at states go figure…so the seasons over and i cant really do leg work…so i do heavy lifting for benching and deadlifts with curls, extensions, and shoulder presses between each set. so i figured i might as well drop my calories to 2500 and go down by 100 each weekday and start over at 2500 every monday

[quote]Gymjunkie wrote:
Hey guys, on day 10 now of the start up phase…Havnt crashed yet! Is it normal for guys to just go on until the first carb up without crashing??

Thanks[/quote]

now it depends how you were eating before u started the diet were u eating low to moderate carb then maybe u will not crash has hard if u were eating a high carb dirt …dont panic do as its is mentioned u will be fine by now u must have lost some weight …some water glycogen and some fat

[quote]Gymjunkie wrote:
Hey guys, on day 10 now of the start up phase…Havnt crashed yet! Is it normal for guys to just go on until the first carb up without crashing??

Thanks[/quote]

Maybe your body likes fats better than carbs… or maybe earlier in your life you accidently ate for a while like the AD and didnt realize it. I have no doubt that that happens… tho rarely.

But man when you carb up… get ready for the best pump you have ever had. Your muscles will feel like they are exploding for days…

Yeh, I seem to be a couple kilos down, and increase in strength in the last week. All going well! Looking forward to the weekend carb up. I think I will load from sat morning to miday sunday.

woooo, looking forward to it!!

Hey guys. Got another q for you. Is it business at usual when it comes to drinking? I mean, NO GOOD. I usually go out drinking once a month, if that, and before I do, I have a big casien drink, a multi, trib tabs. And make sure I get a protein drink from a service station every 3 hours(hehe).Also keep the water intake high. Whilst on this diet, whats the deal with booze on the weekends during the carb up. Is it just as bad to get boozed on this diet?? (Hope this aint too stupid a q)

Thanks

[quote]bkmacky9288 wrote:
i have a problem…i finally got to adding more weight to my deadlift…the thing is i can lift the weight pretty easy with my back its that the bar stretches out y hand skin so bad that its comes to the point where i cant make a fist cuz of the numbing pain…i tried gloves but they limit my grip strength…any ideas compadres?

cuz i could definitly add more weight but tthen id only get probably at most 5 sets in.[/quote]

try firmly rolling your hand down the bar from finger tip up to mid palm.that way you limit the amount of trapped flesh under the bar. otherwise maybe rap 2 faceclothes around the bar for padding. the buildup of functional calluses should be enough though in the long run.

Of course theres always trusty old fashioned, mantastic, animalistic like aggression. The type that makes metro’s quiver with fear and huddle into packs for protection. Also the type that doesn’t allow you drop that iron even if you wanted to.

If your not gettin funny looks from men and inquisitive looks from women in the gym you know your doing it wrong…happy deadlifting.

[quote]storemike wrote:
Man, this is one good thread! I just picked up the Anabolic Solution book, read the first 50 pages of this thread, and am planning on starting the 12-day intro next Monday. Can’t wait! I have a quick question regarding the 30g carb limit for the low-carb days, though. I can see where this would be OK for the average lifter at around 200lbs bodyweight, but I’m 6’7 and weigh 303 (at 18% bf).

Should I eat a few more carbs than that? I’m planning on hitting around 400g/protein and the same amount of fat to get the ratios mentioned in the book and to get the calories to roughly 16 x bodyweight (for losing fat). Of course, any AD tips for a bigger lifter would be appreciated, as this will be my first time through it.

Thanks,
Mike[/quote]

Try sticking with the <30 protocol.
I started at 320 and about 20-25%bf (6’2").
The weight dropped…well -like it was ‘hot’ :wink:
I lost 30+ lbs the first month.

Eat tons of veggies and take a look at milled flax for healthy fats and fiber.

peace

When you guys are cutting, do you keep you calories lower on the carb ups as well? I’m 195 lbs 11-12%BF and dropped my cals to 2700 this week. I’m going to drop them 200 every week till I’m at 1900. Should I do the same on the weekends or keep them slightly higher?
Thanks…

Thanks for the reply, Pauli D. Does it look like I’m close to the right amounts for protein and fat?

Mike

[quote]Pauli D wrote:
storemike wrote:
Man, this is one good thread! I just picked up the Anabolic Solution book, read the first 50 pages of this thread, and am planning on starting the 12-day intro next Monday. Can’t wait! I have a quick question regarding the 30g carb limit for the low-carb days, though. I can see where this would be OK for the average lifter at around 200lbs bodyweight, but I’m 6’7 and weigh 303 (at 18% bf).

Should I eat a few more carbs than that? I’m planning on hitting around 400g/protein and the same amount of fat to get the ratios mentioned in the book and to get the calories to roughly 16 x bodyweight (for losing fat). Of course, any AD tips for a bigger lifter would be appreciated, as this will be my first time through it.

Thanks,
Mike

Try sticking with the <30 protocol.
I started at 320 and about 20-25%bf (6’2").
The weight dropped…well -like it was ‘hot’ :wink:
I lost 30+ lbs the first month.

Eat tons of veggies and take a look at milled flax for healthy fats and fiber.

peace
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Anyone have any opinions on California Avocadoes? High in fat and fiber, pretty good in protien. Seems like a home made guacamole with a high fiber tortilla would make a pretty good “cleaning” snack.

Mike,

Don’t start off looking to lose.
It’ll come -be patient.
You’ll need to get adapted in order to make the best of the plan, but yes, your macro’s should be fine.

Try to begin your day well fed and then keep full on greens, fats and protein throughout the day.
…sorta like stoking a fire.

Fitday.com is great for tracking your macros.

Watch your sodium.
Don’t let yourself get hungry. Fats are very satiating and the veggies are ESSENTIAL to neutralize the FFA’s you’ll be burning -the protein seems to take care of itself.

Keep us posted.

peace

[quote]storemike wrote:
Thanks for the reply, Pauli D. Does it look like I’m close to the right amounts for protein and fat?

Mike

Pauli D wrote:
storemike wrote:
Man, this is one good thread! I just picked up the Anabolic Solution book, read the first 50 pages of this thread, and am planning on starting the 12-day intro next Monday. Can’t wait! I have a quick question regarding the 30g carb limit for the low-carb days, though. I can see where this would be OK for the average lifter at around 200lbs bodyweight, but I’m 6’7 and weigh 303 (at 18% bf).

Should I eat a few more carbs than that? I’m planning on hitting around 400g/protein and the same amount of fat to get the ratios mentioned in the book and to get the calories to roughly 16 x bodyweight (for losing fat). Of course, any AD tips for a bigger lifter would be appreciated, as this will be my first time through it.

Thanks,
Mike

Try sticking with the <30 protocol.
I started at 320 and about 20-25%bf (6’2").
The weight dropped…well -like it was ‘hot’ :wink:
I lost 30+ lbs the first month.

Eat tons of veggies and take a look at milled flax for healthy fats and fiber.

peace

[/quote]

Thanks again Pauli.

Mike

[quote]Pauli D wrote:
Mike,

Don’t start off looking to lose.
It’ll come -be patient.
You’ll need to get adapted in order to make the best of the plan, but yes, your macro’s should be fine.

Try to begin your day well fed and then keep full on greens, fats and protein throughout the day.
…sorta like stoking a fire.

Fitday.com is great for tracking your macros.

Watch your sodium.
Don’t let yourself get hungry. Fats are very satiating and the veggies are ESSENTIAL to neutralize the FFA’s you’ll be burning -the protein seems to take care of itself.

Keep us posted.

peace

storemike wrote:
Thanks for the reply, Pauli D. Does it look like I’m close to the right amounts for protein and fat?

Mike

Pauli D wrote:
storemike wrote:
Man, this is one good thread! I just picked up the Anabolic Solution book, read the first 50 pages of this thread, and am planning on starting the 12-day intro next Monday. Can’t wait! I have a quick question regarding the 30g carb limit for the low-carb days, though. I can see where this would be OK for the average lifter at around 200lbs bodyweight, but I’m 6’7 and weigh 303 (at 18% bf).

Should I eat a few more carbs than that? I’m planning on hitting around 400g/protein and the same amount of fat to get the ratios mentioned in the book and to get the calories to roughly 16 x bodyweight (for losing fat). Of course, any AD tips for a bigger lifter would be appreciated, as this will be my first time through it.

Thanks,
Mike

Try sticking with the <30 protocol.
I started at 320 and about 20-25%bf (6’2").
The weight dropped…well -like it was ‘hot’ :wink:
I lost 30+ lbs the first month.

Eat tons of veggies and take a look at milled flax for healthy fats and fiber.

peace

[/quote]

[quote]imcleish wrote:
When you guys are cutting, do you keep you calories lower on the carb ups as well? I’m 195 lbs 11-12%BF and dropped my cals to 2700 this week. I’m going to drop them 200 every week till I’m at 1900. Should I do the same on the weekends or keep them slightly higher?
Thanks…[/quote]

Generally speaking, caloric intake is less of an issue on the carb-ups. However, Dr. D mentions in the book to shoot for no more than roughly 1/6 more calories than your maintenance calorie mark until you really learn how to dial yourself in. So if you eat 3,000 calories/day in your low carb phase for maintenace, you’d eat 3,500 on your carb-up.

With that said, I actually have my own carb-up protocol. I drastically cut my fat intake and essentially reduce it to as low as possible. And I have my reasons for doing so: (1) mixing fat and carbs causes a UNIQUE exaggerated insulin response (exaggerated insulin responses are not exactly the worst things themselves, as this is one of the goals of the AD) that increases the susceptibility of fat gain (or regaining the fat you dieted off during the week) (2) cutting fat calories allows one to consume more carbs, which may (a) better reset leptin and other thyroid and anabolic hormones to ensure constant progress (b) ensure greater glycogen supercompensation (3) cutting fat calories in a carb-load allows one to better control the total number of calories consumed.

I am sure that others will suggest reducing protein intake substantially during the carb-up, citing Dr. D’s statement that it is POSSIBLE that a brief period of low protein intake (low protein carb-up) followed by periods of higher protein intake (normal low-carb week) MAY increase protein synthesis. However, to tell you how it really is, Dr. D mentions this only as a POSSIBLE avenue for the AD’er, he never actually states that this is the preferred or suggested method. My personal preference is to keep protein intake at 1-1.5 grams/lb. Dr. Berardi, Chad Waterbury, and Christian Thibaudeau also tend to endorse the maintenance of a high protein intake, as well as macronutrient partioning (separating fat and carbs).

Finally, remember that your primary focus should be on your food choices, especially if you are trying to lean out. Protein sources: very lean red meat, egg whites, tuna and other very lean fish, very lean turkey and chicken, and even protein powders. Tried and true carb sources: sweet potatoes/yams, brown/whole grain rice, oats, quinoa, buckwheat pancakes, and fruits. My personal suggestion, and one that Christian Thibaudeau also endorses, is to avoid wheat products as much as possible (owing to the gluten and high acidic content), especially if you are trying to lean out.

As far as the low carb phase, however you choose to lower your calories, just be sure to: (a) ensure you are not going over your carb quota (b) provide yourself enough caloric energy to workout and recover… your body will let you know if you are doing this right.

You now know everything. Godspeed.

[quote]TheTank123 wrote:
Anyone have any opinions on California Avocadoes? High in fat and fiber, pretty good in protien. Seems like a home made guacamole with a high fiber tortilla would make a pretty good “cleaning” snack.[/quote]

Other than the fact that they are damn good? Yeah, I definitely endorse them on the AD. I eat 3 large avocados everyday. Different sources give me different information about the CHO count per large avocado (some say zero, others say between 3 and 5), but as long as you are only getting your carbs from veggies and avocado (technically a fruit), I wouldn’t worry about it. However, I would kick the high fiber tortilla and disregard the protein content of the avocado (incomplete protein in addition to only being a paltry few grams).

[quote]OMC wrote:
bkmacky9288 wrote:
i have a problem…i finally got to adding more weight to my deadlift…the thing is i can lift the weight pretty easy with my back its that the bar stretches out y hand skin so bad that its comes to the point where i cant make a fist cuz of the numbing pain…i tried gloves but they limit my grip strength…any ideas compadres?

cuz i could definitly add more weight but tthen id only get probably at most 5 sets in.

try firmly rolling your hand down the bar from finger tip up to mid palm.that way you limit the amount of trapped flesh under the bar. otherwise maybe rap 2 faceclothes around the bar for padding. the buildup of functional calluses should be enough though in the long run.

Of course theres always trusty old fashioned, mantastic, animalistic like aggression. The type that makes metro’s quiver with fear and huddle into packs for protection. Also the type that doesn’t allow you drop that iron even if you wanted to.

If your not gettin funny looks from men and inquisitive looks from women in the gym you know your doing it wrong…happy deadlifting.[/quote]

im glad you said that cuz thats exactly what i do…i say no pain no gain to myself and grunt through it really fast and end up goin through1-2 more reps

[quote]ovalpline wrote:
TheTank123 wrote:
Anyone have any opinions on California Avocadoes? High in fat and fiber, pretty good in protien. Seems like a home made guacamole with a high fiber tortilla would make a pretty good “cleaning” snack.

Other than the fact that they are damn good? Yeah, I definitely endorse them on the AD. I eat 3 large avocados everyday. Different sources give me different information about the CHO count per large avocado (some say zero, others say between 3 and 5), but as long as you are only getting your carbs from veggies and avocado (technically a fruit), I wouldn’t worry about it. However, I would kick the high fiber tortilla and disregard the protein content of the avocado (incomplete protein in addition to only being a paltry few grams).[/quote]

i know your against whole wheat for carbups (so now i kicked em out ex: my wholewheat pasta)but how bout this wholewheat tortilla i eat everyday on weekdays 31 carbs 21fiber= 10 counted carbs is that all good ya think?

Hey guys. Got another q for you. Is it business at usual when it comes to drinking? I mean, NO GOOD. I usually go out drinking once a month, if that, and before I do, I have a big casien drink, a multi, trib tabs. And make sure I get a protein drink from a service station every 3 hours(hehe).Also keep the water intake high. Whilst on this diet, whats the deal with booze on the weekends during the carb up. Is it just as bad to get boozed on this diet?? (Hope this aint too stupid a q)

Thanks