Hard-ons…I’m not kidding. During my first carb load I had several hard-ons during the day. I felt like I was in 5th grade. Anyone else have this? Not sure if this will continue, have only had 1 carb load. Thanks
[quote]curtisj76 wrote:
Hard-ons…I’m not kidding. During my first carb load I had several hard-ons during the day. I felt like I was in 5th grade. Anyone else have this? Not sure if this will continue, have only had 1 carb load. Thanks[/quote]
well this lifestyle change is a nice utopia for your hormones so…i noticed im a lot more how you say…perverted with my way of thinking…luckily i have some wits or else id be slapped left and right for twiddling my fingers where there not expected
Question guys,
Im on week 3, i was eating proper meat&cheese in between breakfast/lunch/dinner, but since im working i thought that nuts would be easier for my snack meals. Saves me cooking loads of food, and looks better to my boss not running off to the kitchen every couple hours.
Does anyone see problems with eating just nuts for 2 of my meals every day? good amount of protein and loads of fat, so i think it should be good, but i read somewere once that nuts arent a complete protein so wondering if maybe it wud be best to have a shake or something?
Thanks!!!
[quote]TheTank123 wrote:
The following question applies to me this weekend but I have been wondering about it for a while. I don’t drink heavily, consuming 2-3 drinks on the weekends (usually just one night a week). I am going up to New York City for my birthday this weekend and my friends are planning on renting out a bar.
I will be drinking this weekend and it got me thinking. If you are going to drink alcohol, take my example of one night of way too much of it, would it be better for it to coincide with a carb up or be as far away from it as possible? Does it even matter?[/quote]
If it were me, to be safe, I’d coincide your binge with a carb up.
I have no science, but my common sense (which is often wrong these days…lol) tells me this is best.
AD
[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
This has been a GREAT thread. It truly represents the best of T-Nation and it’s threads like these (all too few!) that keep me around the forums.
I’ve done other low-carb diets, and even did BodyOpus. I hated them. Always felt groggy and noticed a cognitive drop – which caused me to lose about 3% points on tests in college. So I’ve been zone/isocaloric ever since.
Based on what you freaking evangelicals have written, I’m giving the AD a try. I started on Sunday.
I lift twice a week (two full-body routines), train BJJ twice a week, and run hills/hike once a week.
My goal is to drop 15 lbs.
Let’s see if this diet lives up to the hype![/quote]
It indeed lives up to everything we say, so long as you follow the protocol exactly for the first few months.
Keep us informed of progress and if you have questions, I’m sure you’ve figured out that you can post them here.
AD
[quote]BrotherO wrote:
Question guys,
Im on week 3, i was eating proper meat&cheese in between breakfast/lunch/dinner, but since im working i thought that nuts would be easier for my snack meals. Saves me cooking loads of food, and looks better to my boss not running off to the kitchen every couple hours.
Does anyone see problems with eating just nuts for 2 of my meals every day? good amount of protein and loads of fat, so i think it should be good, but i read somewere once that nuts arent a complete protein so wondering if maybe it wud be best to have a shake or something?
Thanks!!![/quote]
Personally, I always take a protein shake with my nuts (lol…that sounds weird, huh, if taken out of context?). I’m not sure of the “complete protein” thing, but I personally like to do both.
The shake washes down the nuts well.
Although I normally do nuts/cheese/shake combo. Good times!
But beware…many nuts have a high CHO, I think…even after fiber deduction.
[quote]AlphaDragon wrote:
BrotherO wrote:
Question guys,
Im on week 3, i was eating proper meat&cheese in between breakfast/lunch/dinner, but since im working i thought that nuts would be easier for my snack meals. Saves me cooking loads of food, and looks better to my boss not running off to the kitchen every couple hours.
Does anyone see problems with eating just nuts for 2 of my meals every day? good amount of protein and loads of fat, so i think it should be good, but i read somewere once that nuts arent a complete protein so wondering if maybe it wud be best to have a shake or something?
Thanks!!!
Personally, I always take a protein shake with my nuts (lol…that sounds weird, huh, if taken out of context?). I’m not sure of the “complete protein” thing, but I personally like to do both.
The shake washes down the nuts well.
Although I normally do nuts/cheese/shake combo. Good times!
But beware…many nuts have a high CHO, I think…even after fiber deduction.
[/quote]
CHO = carbs??. you guys and your crazy abbreviations.
I’m getting 200g nuts a day which should be under 20g carbs…which is fine, i just dont eat any other carbs.
cheese/nut/protein shake…thats fucking gross man…altho…maybe i cant speak…i was a firm believer in the tuna/oats shake for a while
One more question. I’ve read about 140 pages and don’t remember seeing this answered, so if it was, I apologize. Should you drink a protien shake before bed? Every other diet (T-Dawg, Berardi’s diets etc.) suggest a shake before bed to prevent catabolism at night. However, because of the metabolic shift of the AD, this should be prevented, correct? Therefore, it would make more sense to NOT have a shake before bed because your body SHOULD be burning fat as energy while you are asleep, not breaking down muscle. Is this thinking flawed?
[quote]AlphaDragon wrote:
CaliforniaLaw wrote:
This has been a GREAT thread. It truly represents the best of T-Nation and it’s threads like these (all too few!) that keep me around the forums.
I’ve done other low-carb diets, and even did BodyOpus. I hated them. Always felt groggy and noticed a cognitive drop – which caused me to lose about 3% points on tests in college. So I’ve been zone/isocaloric ever since.
Based on what you freaking evangelicals have written, I’m giving the AD a try. I started on Sunday.
I lift twice a week (two full-body routines), train BJJ twice a week, and run hills/hike once a week.
My goal is to drop 15 lbs.
Let’s see if this diet lives up to the hype!
It indeed lives up to everything we say, so long as you follow the protocol exactly for the first few months.
Keep us informed of progress and if you have questions, I’m sure you’ve figured out that you can post them here.
AD[/quote]
Yessir, can’t emphasize that enough.
Hello guys!
I have a problem with snacks at 9:00 am and 15:00 pm I don’t know what to eat without shocking my colleagues at work (I mean without taking out of my bag a piece of steak or cheese) this is kind of problematic with this diet even if for the lunch at restaurant I can still follow the AD protocol ba taking a steak with some veggies…so if anyone has a solution…I would appreciate (maybe some high protein high FAT low carb bars would be Fucking crazy!!!)
Thanks!
[quote]Stingblood wrote:
Hello guys!
I have a problem with snacks at 9:00 am and 15:00 pm I don’t know what to eat without shocking my colleagues at work (I mean without taking out of my bag a piece of steak or cheese) this is kind of problematic with this diet even if for the lunch at restaurant I can still follow the AD protocol ba taking a steak with some veggies…so if anyone has a solution…I would appreciate (maybe some high protein high FAT low carb bars would be Fucking crazy!!!)
Thanks![/quote]
I have a snack of 2 oz. summer sausage and 3 oz cheese a couple times a day. as long as you put them in foil or a ziplock, they won’t spoil in an afternoon.
[quote]AlphaDragon wrote:
It indeed lives up to everything we say, so long as you follow the protocol exactly for the first few months.
AD[/quote]
Now you guys have me nervous. I’ve only read the first 100 pages, but it doesn’t seem that complicated. No more than 30 grams of carbs or 2x bodyweight protein for the first 12 days of the diet. Eat from 15-18 x. BW for total caloric intake.
After that, do a carb-up beginning Sat. a.m. and ending early Sun. p.m. Carb-up should contain mostly pure carbs like potatoes, pancakes, etc., but some “cheaty” fat-carbs cominbations are allowed. Limit those cheaty foods to 25% or less of total caloric intake.
From there, eat no more than 30 grams of carbs per day M-F. Carb-up on Sat-Sun. Lather, rinse, repeat.
Am I missing something? Seems pretty simple. (Not saying it’s easy to follow: just saying the protocol seems simple.)
[quote]Stingblood wrote:
Hello guys!
I have a problem with snacks at 9:00 am and 15:00 pm I don’t know what to eat without shocking my colleagues at work (I mean without taking out of my bag a piece of steak or cheese) this is kind of problematic with this diet even if for the lunch at restaurant I can still follow the AD protocol ba taking a steak with some veggies…so if anyone has a solution…I would appreciate (maybe some high protein high FAT low carb bars would be Fucking crazy!!!)
Thanks![/quote]
LOL. I relate. The looks, the questions… I get them all. I used to be self-conscious about it, but now I just think it’s funny. You’ll make that shift.
Just tell them the hunter-gatherer inside of you roars loudly and you prefer the tastes of the foods you have chosen, the foods you chose are more satisfying, etc. Explaining the purpose of the diet is information overload and likely not what they’re interested in anyway. But, if they are genuinely interested, by all means, share your thinking.
For the record, my current school and travel foods are canned jack mackerel/yellow jack (in Chile I buy these in cans that are roughly 2.5x the size of the typical tuna can for 80 cents each… split them in to two portions and I have an excellent protein source and omega-3s for two meals) with avocado (2 kilos for a freakin’ dollar… amazing).
ill try and hit a few points from posts ive read.
California Law… i think you got the principles down, everything sounds good
gum…eh personally I’d skip it. you still get the carbs from chewing even if you dont swallow, but like ill caz said, dont eat the whole pack.
nuts only snack… ya there is the complete protein issue. also not really alot of protein and a lot of fat,youd have to eat a huge meal to get like 30 g of protein, for ex almonds have like 815 cals per cup with 70 g fat and 30 g Pro so I usually balcance that out with a shake or chicken breast.
before bed…still have the shake or I like mixing protein powder and cottage cheese, some type of slow protein… youre still burning fat in the night eating protein and fat before bed wont stop that, but you wanna give yourself the materials to grow and protein so you can be in positive nitrogen balance in the night.
[quote]ovalpline wrote:
Stingblood wrote:
Hello guys!
I have a problem with snacks at 9:00 am and 15:00 pm I don’t know what to eat without shocking my colleagues at work (I mean without taking out of my bag a piece of steak or cheese) this is kind of problematic with this diet even if for the lunch at restaurant I can still follow the AD protocol ba taking a steak with some veggies…so if anyone has a solution…I would appreciate (maybe some high protein high FAT low carb bars would be Fucking crazy!!!)
Thanks!
LOL. I relate. The looks, the questions… I get them all. I used to be self-conscious about it, but now I just think it’s funny. You’ll make that shift.
Just tell them the hunter-gatherer inside of you roars loudly and you prefer the tastes of the foods you have chosen, the foods you chose are more satisfying, etc. Explaining the purpose of the diet is information overload and likely not what they’re interested in anyway. But, if they are genuinely interested, by all means, share your thinking.
For the record, my current school and travel foods are canned jack mackerel/yellow jack (in Chile I buy these in cans that are roughly 2.5x the size of the typical tuna can for 80 cents each… split them in to two portions and I have an excellent protein source and omega-3s for two meals) with avocado (2 kilos for a freakin’ dollar… amazing).[/quote]
2 kilos for a dollar? man…
fuk you OP. I’m here in the cold ass north letting people touch me inappropriately to get 1 pound for 4 dollars and you… you… ass.
Oh well I suppose you’re having trouble finding dead animals so in the end it breaks even. How are the prices for other shit down there? Highly economical or no? coffee? I know about the wine, cheap and brutally awesome. Have you been to the mountains yet?
-chris
[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
<<< Now you guys have me nervous. I’ve only read the first 100 pages, but it doesn’t seem that complicated. No more than 30 grams of carbs or 2x bodyweight protein for the first 12 days of the diet. Eat from 15-18 x. BW for total caloric intake.
After that, do a carb-up beginning Sat. a.m. and ending early Sun. p.m. Carb-up should contain mostly pure carbs like potatoes, pancakes, etc., but some “cheaty” fat-carbs cominbations are allowed. Limit those cheaty foods to 25% or less of total caloric intake.
From there, eat no more than 30 grams of carbs per day M-F. Carb-up on Sat-Sun. Lather, rinse, repeat.
Am I missing something? Seems pretty simple. (Not saying it’s easy to follow: just saying the protocol seems simple.)[/quote]
Nah, that’s pretty much it. It is forgiving. A lot of times guys get a bit flipped out over the ups and downs the first couple months and start to experiment before they give it a chance to settle in. I will say this is more like a lifestyle than a diet and it will take a couple months for most people to level off fully, but once that happens it’s smooth sailing. I can’t imagine ever going back.
To be frank if you’re looking for a temporary “tool” to drop some fat I’m not sure if it will work well that way. It’s all about the metabolic shift from a gluco to a lipocentric (are those words?) internal environment. The initial adaptation will happen in the first 10 days, but the average person will experience energy, mood and sleep etc. fluctuations until all the systems adjust to their new fuel source.
Actually, do about 16x bodyweight for the first 2 weeks (maintenence) for the transition then drop it 500 cals below that daily until your reach whatever works for you as an individual. After all, you are on it to lose weight.
I’ll be trimming to the recommended 10% soon (few months away) and I’m still researching the diet, but I think you’ll need to up the protein and lower the fat consumption (with CHO staying the same) as you get into the cutting phase of the AD.
But if someone else could confirm that, (vet), than that would be better.
And yes, the protocol is really easy, and we can eat a plethora of stuff that other eating plans don’t allow.
I was more referring to not altering the protocol until you’ve fully adapted to it…and that can take up to 5 months (but you know that as you’ve already read so much). then you can play with mid week spikes and all that stuff…
[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
AlphaDragon wrote:
It indeed lives up to everything we say, so long as you follow the protocol exactly for the first few months.
AD
Now you guys have me nervous. I’ve only read the first 100 pages, but it doesn’t seem that complicated. No more than 30 grams of carbs or 2x bodyweight protein for the first 12 days of the diet. Eat from 15-18 x. BW for total caloric intake.
After that, do a carb-up beginning Sat. a.m. and ending early Sun. p.m. Carb-up should contain mostly pure carbs like potatoes, pancakes, etc., but some “cheaty” fat-carbs cominbations are allowed. Limit those cheaty foods to 25% or less of total caloric intake.
From there, eat no more than 30 grams of carbs per day M-F. Carb-up on Sat-Sun. Lather, rinse, repeat.
Am I missing something? Seems pretty simple. (Not saying it’s easy to follow: just saying the protocol seems simple.)[/quote]
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
To be frank if you’re looking for a temporary “tool” to drop some fat I’m not sure if it will work well that way. It’s all about the metabolic shift from a gluco to a lipocentric (are those words?) internal environment. The initial adaptation will happen in the first 10 days, but the average person will experience energy, mood and sleep etc. fluctuations until all the systems adjust to their new fuel source. [/quote]
I’ve done other low-carb diets, and deep down have always known that my body doesn’t do well with carbs. (My fasting glucose and other markers are fine, but I feel better with less carbs.) They’ve always worked great for fat loss for me.
So while I’m using the AD to lose the last 15 pounds of fat, I am also trying it out as a “lifestyle diet.” (I usually eat isocalorically, so dropping all carbs isn’t much of a shock to me.)
Whats up guys started this diet on Monday and I must say its dammed tasty!
I just came off the V-Diet last week and I feel this would be a nice natural progressing to bulk up a bit without throwing on a ton of fat.
I am currently weighing 200lbs @ 10%bf
What I ate yesterday -
400g Burger meat (handful of spinach)
1 - Whey Shake (low carb)
350g Grill Steak - 3eggs (handful of spinach)
1 - Whey Shake (low carb)
3 Small steaks - 3 eggs (handful of spinach)
2 gammon steaks (250g) 3eggs (handful of spinach)
Any ideas of things to add take away, I’m curious on how you guys have found the calorie intake on this diet, I’m going to add in 2 tablespoons of flax into each shake to meet fiber and Omega Demands.
Any ideas as to any nice oils I could drizzle onto meals (currently using olive oil)
[quote]josh.shafer wrote:
Hello _kitty wrote:
Guys,
Just wanted to share with you this wonderful product I bought yesterday. It’s cod livers in cod liver oil. It’s a Russian thing (I remembered it from my childhood when we used to spread it on bread like pate)and sold in Russian shops. Maybe you have a small community where you live. We have two of these shops in London.
It’s pure Omega 3. Few tablespoons and you’re not hungry. Maybe it’s not everyone’s thing but I love the taste, it’s very mild and not too fishy.
Good point. I’ve been using cod liver oil since I started on the diet. It’s very potent in EPA/DHA and like $6 a bottle. I take 7 teaspoons a day to get my 6gs of EPA/DHA per day. Great for the joints, heart health, and supposedly metabolism.
[/quote]
I know it’s easy and I know it’s cheap but…
Beware the vitamin D content of the liver oil. I doubt you need as much Vit D as you are getting and in that case it tends to accumulate in your liver. this can cause all types of problems including liver cancer. A good replacement is omega 3 fish oil. Has none of the vit D and even better concentration of EPA/DHA.
-chris