My Experience On the Anabolic Diet

Nutrition
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[quote]sarah1 wrote:
Bizmark wrote:
Wow just wow. Im going to go ahead and let loose everything im thinking about this one…

Sarah1, atfirst the AD does lower your immune system, but only for a short time. It happened to me too, TWICE. And that sucks you caught a virus. But you said:

sarah1 wrote:
It is incredibly disheartening, but right now I’m thankful to be alive.

Are you fucking serious? What could you have possibly gotten to where you were going to die. And personally, I think you blacked out because you were working yourself up with worrying to the point that your body couldn’t take it anymore.

Um, no I did not pass out from worry thank you. My body was going through ripping pains and nausea, I had severe diarrhea, and was very dehydrated.

I still do not know what I had/have, but yes, I was very close to being dead that day. Doctors did come to my house and did something and gave me some shot that made me hurt a lot. It was supposed to help my stomach.

They also gave my mystery poweders to help the diarrhea, but mostly they just gave me lectures on how americans use too much medicine and I should just let my body fight it off.

I hate being told I’m not really sick though and that I’m making it up in my head. Sorry but it pisses me off. Do you think I enjoy sitting in bed feeling like crap for 2 weeks?

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Understood. BUt your still making it up in your head!!! It doesn’t exist!!! its a figment of your imagination!!! j/k

Get well soon.

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on the cool tips section of thesite there was this ‘money maker’ or whatever. you pick yor moneymakin exercise (ex bench squat deadlift) followed by a less taxing exercise like curls for for 6 sessions…

now i thought about it and was like that doesnt seem too long so i incorporated 2 moneymakers along with the lesser exercises…and my workouts r 40-45min. long and today 35 (i left out two lesser exercises because my back is still sore from my yesterdays workout…and i didnt get too much sleep…

which is extremely important too me)…does anyone feel that 12 sets of heavy duty exercises with another 12 sets of curls tri extensions and shoulder presses is too little or just right? btw th money exercises are up to weight where i can only get 2-3 reps in each set…

my money makers are bench and deadslift…and i do that 2 days and i do 2 days of 1 money exercise with 30 minutes cardio is this all good ya think? im just starting it

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If anyone needs the BB version of the e-book pm me and I’ll fire it across to you.

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Next weekend is my third carb-up…

Yesterday yet again I skipped a work-out because I was tired/had a lack of energy. Now, I was doing a de-loading week when I kicked into the AD, and the subsequent weeks I took it pretty easy on training because of the weakness/drowsiness. Also, I cut back on the cardio these last few weeks.

Now, I often feel bloated, and I have the feeling I’m gaining some fat…this is my third-or-so try on the AD and I’m just still not sure I’m doing it right.
Or … is this condition ormal and should I keep ‘parring for the course’, as told recently? It will really take a couple of months to get me ‘dialed in’ completely huh? Or am I just doing something wrong?

Tonight, I’m GOING to work out, weak-ish or not …

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[quote]sarah1 wrote:
Bizmark wrote:
Wow just wow. Im going to go ahead and let loose everything im thinking about this one…

Sarah1, atfirst the AD does lower your immune system, but only for a short time. It happened to me too, TWICE. And that sucks you caught a virus. But you said:

sarah1 wrote:
It is incredibly disheartening, but right now I’m thankful to be alive.

Are you fucking serious? What could you have possibly gotten to where you were going to die. And personally, I think you blacked out because you were working yourself up with worrying to the point that your body couldn’t take it anymore.

Um, no I did not pass out from worry thank you. My body was going through ripping pains and nausea, I had severe diarrhea, and was very dehydrated.

I still do not know what I had/have, but yes, I was very close to being dead that day. Doctors did come to my house and did something and gave me some shot that made me hurt a lot. It was supposed to help my stomach.

They also gave my mystery poweders to help the diarrhea, but mostly they just gave me lectures on how americans use too much medicine and I should just let my body fight it off.

I hate being told I’m not really sick though and that I’m making it up in my head. Sorry but it pisses me off. Do you think I enjoy sitting in bed feeling like crap for 2 weeks?

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sarah1,
for what it’s worth, i blacked out too about 4 weeks into the AD. I blacked out at the gym in the middle of cardio. fell off the equipment and was so i’m told abit disoriented for 20 mins. a trip to the emergency and tons of test proved nothing was wrong with me. dehydration proved to be the culprit.
so, that being said, i didn’t really let it worry me that much. so i fell down and went boom. i didn’t blame the diet. i blamed me for being stupid while my body was still in the transition mode and not taking in enough fluids.
i still get teased so unmercifully about my black out in the gym.
i just laugh about. i stayed on the diet. i spent about a week a bit freaked out until all the tests came back telling me i was just fine.
so get better and try again if you want to.

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Just wondering what you guys think about chewing gum…I know its all carbs but do they count if you don’t actually swallow the gum. I like to keep my breath nice and fresh after eating a lot of meat so I chew a bit then spit it out. Is this okay?

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[quote]mark1506 wrote:
Just wondering what you guys think about chewing gum…I know its all carbs but do they count if you don’t actually swallow the gum. I like to keep my breath nice and fresh after eating a lot of meat so I chew a bit then spit it out. Is this okay?[/quote]

Don’t get nuts man…gum is ok, just dont eat the whole pack.

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Sara1, I’d like to formally apologize to u for what i said. It was uncalled for and rude and I feel bad about it. Im still adapting to this diet myself and ive been getting really angry at little things that normally dont make me angry, and then i dream of killing ppl… which doesnt help. I know none of that is an excuse for being so rude…

But yeah, I’m sorry for what I said. I took what you said out of context, thinking you were dramatasizing it when you really are extremely sick. Again I’m sorry. Please accept my apology and rest up so that you can consider giving the AD another shot, it really is a fun way of eating.

Oh and if your having digestion troubles papaya might help. Get well soon!

-Biz

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[quote]jeepemilie wrote:
sarah1 wrote:
Bizmark wrote:
Wow just wow. Im going to go ahead and let loose everything im thinking about this one…

Sarah1, atfirst the AD does lower your immune system, but only for a short time. It happened to me too, TWICE. And that sucks you caught a virus. But you said:

sarah1 wrote:
It is incredibly disheartening, but right now I’m thankful to be alive.

Are you fucking serious? What could you have possibly gotten to where you were going to die. And personally, I think you blacked out because you were working yourself up with worrying to the point that your body couldn’t take it anymore.

Um, no I did not pass out from worry thank you. My body was going through ripping pains and nausea, I had severe diarrhea, and was very dehydrated.

I still do not know what I had/have, but yes, I was very close to being dead that day. Doctors did come to my house and did something and gave me some shot that made me hurt a lot. It was supposed to help my stomach.

They also gave my mystery poweders to help the diarrhea, but mostly they just gave me lectures on how americans use too much medicine and I should just let my body fight it off.

I hate being told I’m not really sick though and that I’m making it up in my head. Sorry but it pisses me off. Do you think I enjoy sitting in bed feeling like crap for 2 weeks?

sarah1,
for what it’s worth, i blacked out too about 4 weeks into the AD. I blacked out at the gym in the middle of cardio. fell off the equipment and was so i’m told abit disoriented for 20 mins. a trip to the emergency and tons of test proved nothing was wrong with me. dehydration proved to be the culprit.
so, that being said, i didn’t really let it worry me that much. so i fell down and went boom. i didn’t blame the diet. i blamed me for being stupid while my body was still in the transition mode and not taking in enough fluids.
i still get teased so unmercifully about my black out in the gym.
i just laugh about. i stayed on the diet. i spent about a week a bit freaked out until all the tests came back telling me i was just fine.
so get better and try again if you want to. [/quote]

Just a question to both of you:

Did you get your check-ups and tests taken (as recommended) before you each went on the AD?

AD

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[quote]LVZzed wrote:
Next weekend is my third carb-up…

Yesterday yet again I skipped a work-out because I was tired/had a lack of energy. Now, I was doing a de-loading week when I kicked into the AD, and the subsequent weeks I took it pretty easy on training because of the weakness/drowsiness. Also, I cut back on the cardio these last few weeks.

Now, I often feel bloated, and I have the feeling I’m gaining some fat…this is my third-or-so try on the AD and I’m just still not sure I’m doing it right.
Or … is this condition ormal and should I keep ‘parring for the course’, as told recently? It will really take a couple of months to get me ‘dialed in’ completely huh? Or am I just doing something wrong?

Tonight, I’m GOING to work out, weak-ish or not …
[/quote]

I’m not an expert or anything, but if you’re eating according to the AD protocol and not working out hard, you probably ARE getting fatter.

Do it strictly according to the book for the first few months THEN change it (tailor it to your needs).

If you’re still feeling sluggish/weak, maybe your CHO is still too high (are you sure there are not hidden carbs in your diet?).

For what it’s worth, my energy is pretty mellow all day until I start working out, and once motivated (begun) my intensity level skyrockets. My energy is not a “bouncy and overactive” energy…but a mellow one that once revved up can stay quite high.

AD

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[quote]mark1506 wrote:
Just wondering what you guys think about chewing gum…I know its all carbs but do they count if you don’t actually swallow the gum. I like to keep my breath nice and fresh after eating a lot of meat so I chew a bit then spit it out. Is this okay?[/quote]

Aww…come on!!! You don’t like to have the smell of old flesh on your breath??

WUSS!!!

Just kidding man…I like to chew sage leaves or even some other natural herbs. Sage really helps…get the dry leaf and put it in your mouth. don’t chew it but rather let it soak up saliva…swallow the saliva. Eventually, when the dry leaf gets softer, you can chew it and eventually swallow the leaf.

Works well…if you can find fresh sage.

AD

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Good links over here
http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1465276

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I am glad I found this thread.

I read through most of it, and ordered the Anabolic Solution For Bootybuilders.

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[quote]AlphaDragon wrote:
I’m not an expert or anything, but if you’re eating according to the AD protocol and not working out hard, you probably ARE getting fatter.
Do it strictly according to the book for the first few months THEN change it (tailor it to your needs).
If you’re still feeling sluggish/weak, maybe your CHO is still too high (are you sure there are not hidden carbs in your diet?).
For what it’s worth, my energy is pretty mellow all day until I start working out, and once motivated (begun) my intensity level skyrockets. My energy is not a “bouncy and overactive” energy…but a mellow one that once revved up can stay quite high.
AD[/quote]
strangely enough, it got better the last few days of the week. Had better workouts on thursday and friday.
But yeah, I guess I need to make some time to do a bit more cardio like I used to.
And get back to where I was with my intensity/loads, because I was heading in a good direction :slight_smile:

I’m prettry sure there are no hidden carbs in my diet on weekdays…mainly consists of steak, feta cheese, cheese, eggs, bacon, canned tuna in sunflower oil, and some veggies. This coming week I’ll add some more variation, I need to find the pages in this thread/thread with the AD Recipes.

Now carbing up!

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[quote]AlphaDragon wrote:

Just a question to both of you:

Did you get your check-ups and tests taken (as recommended) before you each went on the AD?

AD[/quote]

Yes, I had a complete health screening in August or September and post “black out” I most definitely had a complete health screening including MRI EEG CT scan. So all is well in the general health for me. That’s why I didn’t worry overly much.

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[quote]jeepemilie wrote:
AlphaDragon wrote:

Just a question to both of you:

Did you get your check-ups and tests taken (as recommended) before you each went on the AD?

AD

Yes, I had a complete health screening in August or September and post “black out” I most definitely had a complete health screening including MRI EEG CT scan. So all is well in the general health for me. That’s why I didn’t worry overly much.

[/quote]

iuse to get dizzy and my vision would narrow and start to turn black but id never lull off…that usually happens now only in the first couple hours of my carb ups…all my blood rushing around from the carbs is what i think is happenin cuz i got brain scans and heart and blood tests and im all good so its just something that i deal with now no biggie

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[quote]LVZzed wrote:
<<< Or … is this condition ormal and should I keep ‘parring for the course’, as told recently? It will really take a couple of months to get me ‘dialed in’ completely huh? Or am I just doing something wrong?

Tonight, I’m GOING to work out, weak-ish or not …
[/quote]

Assuming your keeping the weekday carbs low enough and the weekday fat high enough, yes, it will take a couple months for you to FULLY adapt. If either your carbs are too high or your fat too low or both you’ll never get adapted properly.

Everybody’s a unique individual, but I was in my eighth week before I could predict how my training energy would be day to day. Now I’m about to go into my seventh month and I have no issues at all. Even on Fri. and Sat.

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I’ve got a question for you guys about the carbloads. I noticed that not on the day of the carbload itself, but about 2 days after, I hold alot of water, and look really puffy. On the day of the carbload I’m fine, its just a few days after that I feel the puffyness. Do any of you have any ideas about getting rid for this?

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The following question applies to me this weekend but I have been wondering about it for a while. I don’t drink heavily, consuming 2-3 drinks on the weekends (usually just one night a week). I am going up to New York City for my birthday this weekend and my friends are planning on renting out a bar.

I will be drinking this weekend and it got me thinking. If you are going to drink alcohol, take my example of one night of way too much of it, would it be better for it to coincide with a carb up or be as far away from it as possible? Does it even matter?

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This has been a GREAT thread. It truly represents the best of T-Nation and it’s threads like these (all too few!) that keep me around the forums.

I’ve done other low-carb diets, and even did BodyOpus. I hated them. Always felt groggy and noticed a cognitive drop – which caused me to lose about 3% points on tests in college. So I’ve been zone/isocaloric ever since.

Based on what you freaking evangelicals have written, I’m giving the AD a try. I started on Sunday.

I lift twice a week (two full-body routines), train BJJ twice a week, and run hills/hike once a week.

My goal is to drop 15 lbs.

Let’s see if this diet lives up to the hype!