lets put upsome favorite meals…My favorite AD meal is my everyday breakfast omelet-bacon, eggs, spinach, spices, and a load of cheese
favorite Carbup meal- shredded wheat with oatmeal and a bag of mixed berries w cinnamon and some sugar…maybe honey if im feeling extra depleted ;p
[quote]bkmacky9288 wrote:
lets put upsome favorite meals…My favorite AD meal is my everyday breakfast omelet-bacon, eggs, spinach, spices, and a load of cheese
favorite Carbup meal- shredded wheat with oatmeal and a bag of mixed berries w cinnamon and some sugar…maybe honey if im feeling extra depleted ;p[/quote]
mine is 1)beef kebabs with beef bone marrow and brain .
2) full leg of lamb grilled with spices on it ofcourse i need 3 freinds with me to eat tht lol.
3)grilled white salmon we do get tht in india and som e nice spinach made indian stlye with lot of spices in it
nothing special about carbs ups i eat what crave the most .
For those of you who are cutting and doing cardio,which cardio program have you found to work best at burning fat and keeping muscle while doing the anabolic diet?
I usually do cardio in the morning after consuming a whey protein shake,for about 30-40 min,low intensity.
I’m looking to incorporate a good cardio schedule into my cutting program.
[quote]raviraj wrote:
hey every 1 i got a ebook called gems from vine gironda its a intresting read as u know he also advocated a high fat diet if any 1 wants it pls pm ur emails i will send u tht book [/quote]
Guys, if you didn’t message him with your e-mail to get this ebook you really NEED to. You’ll understand why when it gets the the Q&A part. Im looking forward to discussing this stuff with u guys.
[quote]Bizmark wrote:
raviraj wrote:
hey every 1 i got a ebook called gems from vine gironda its a intresting read as u know he also advocated a high fat diet if any 1 wants it pls pm ur emails i will send u tht book
Guys, if you didn’t message him with your e-mail to get this ebook you really NEED to. You’ll understand why when it gets the the Q&A part. Im looking forward to discussing this stuff with u guys.[/quote]
I would PM but my internet browser always crashes when I try to read or receive PMs. Computers definitely get quirky as they age…
Still, I definitely would like to check out that e-book. Any idea as to where I can find it? T-Nation has a policy of not allowing its members to post their e-mail addresses (understandable, but not helpful in this instance).
I basically have nothing to do until this Friday, when I disapper for 3 weeks in Patagonia. And I mean disappear.
As an aside, the people in Chile eat waaay too much bread… and it shows. By no means are they as fat as Americans (man, that sucks to say), but it just seems that simple shifts to their diets would transform the population in to beauties like their Argentinian counterparts. Not coincidentally, the Argentinians have a very high beef and cheese intake…
And, of course, I always love reading Gironda’s take on exercise selection, including his own creations. His lateral shoulder swing exercise, which I read about in CT’s ode to Gironda article, is a personal staple.
[quote]AlphaDragon wrote:
I’m considering changing routines soon…moving to a more of a “postural correction” program (I.E. Neanderthal no More).
I’m considering dropping from 20xbodyweight bulk to 18x…for no other reason than I’m not sure on what to do.
Any input on if I should change total cal intake or keep the same?
AD[/quote]
I would hash out my usual “eat when you’re hungry” crap, but I think there’s an important corollary. Intensity of exercise should also help determine how many calories you should consume. Although, I might add, this will probably be reflected in your hunger… and I have officially gone in a circle.
Truthfully, I don’t know the mechanisms by which Neanderthal No More corrects posture and imbalances. My guess is that it realigns the spine, tendons, ligaments, and whatnot… but I imagine that it also requires a bit of muscle growth to do this.
I have been officially no help to you, but I am very interested in hearing about your progress on the program. My own posture could certainly use some work.
[quote]ovalpline wrote:
Bizmark wrote:
raviraj wrote:
hey every 1 i got a ebook called gems from vine gironda its a intresting read as u know he also advocated a high fat diet if any 1 wants it pls pm ur emails i will send u tht book
Guys, if you didn’t message him with your e-mail to get this ebook you really NEED to. You’ll understand why when it gets the the Q&A part. Im looking forward to discussing this stuff with u guys.
I would PM but my internet browser always crashes when I try to read or receive PMs. Computers definitely get quirky as they age…
Still, I definitely would like to check out that e-book. Any idea as to where I can find it? T-Nation has a policy of not allowing its members to post their e-mail addresses (understandable, but not helpful in this instance).
I basically have nothing to do until this Friday, when I disapper for 3 weeks in Patagonia. And I mean disappear.
As an aside, the people in Chile eat waaay too much bread… and it shows. By no means are they as fat as Americans (man, that sucks to say), but it just seems that simple shifts to their diets would transform the population in to beauties like their Argentinian counterparts. Not coincidentally, the Argentinians have a very high beef and cheese intake…
And, of course, I always love reading Gironda’s take on exercise selection, including his own creations. His lateral shoulder swing exercise, which I read about in CT’s ode to Gironda article, is a personal staple.[/quote]
My favorite thing to do is put this phrase into google: gram box at g mail dot comm. string it all together with no spaces, replace some of the words with the appropriate symbols, drop an m and what do you get?
Solve the riddle ovalpine and a fabulous prize written by vince gironda awaits you! 
ovalpline mt email is ---- if u can send me the email i can send u the ebook.l also sasha whenever u feel like readind the ebook drop me ur email in pm i will send the book its a great read many question and answers . by the way vince never allowed any 1 to do cardio he hated it and his logic was jogging and running create a hormonal loss in the body .
now we cant argue with him because we all know how ripped he was and also how ripped he made his students .his secret was meat and eggs , butter, cream and olive oil.and fast workouts with minimal rest between sets.
hi guys
just signed up here
thinkin about starting AD
also noticed people with the Vince gironda ebook
i have this ebook on my computer here at work
if u want it just send me a PM
cheers guys
[quote]ovalpline wrote:
AlphaDragon wrote:
I’m considering changing routines soon…moving to a more of a “postural correction” program (I.E. Neanderthal no More).
I’m considering dropping from 20xbodyweight bulk to 18x…for no other reason than I’m not sure on what to do.
Any input on if I should change total cal intake or keep the same?
AD
I would hash out my usual “eat when you’re hungry” crap, but I think there’s an important corollary. Intensity of exercise should also help determine how many calories you should consume. Although, I might add, this will probably be reflected in your hunger… and I have officially gone in a circle.
Truthfully, I don’t know the mechanisms by which Neanderthal No More corrects posture and imbalances. My guess is that it realigns the spine, tendons, ligaments, and whatnot… but I imagine that it also requires a bit of muscle growth to do this.
I have been officially no help to you, but I am very interested in hearing about your progress on the program. My own posture could certainly use some work.[/quote]
LOL.
Tell ya what? When I get to it (in about 10 days or so), I’ll fill you in on things (the gyms here close for a week for a week-long holiday starting in 2 days from now).
Supposedly, it uses pretty intense weight training…so maybe lowering cals isn’t the best thing in this case…experimentation, here I come!!
AD
Hi guys,
Apologies if this question has been asked beofre but I don’t have the time to go through all the pages on this thread.
I have been doing this diet for since Jan 1 and made good progress the only problem in the last few weeks is I seem to have some sort of nervous energy in me that makes it very difficult to fall asleep. Any suggestions? Anyone else had sleeping problems?
This is day 3 of my AD.
Haven’t felt any dodginess yet at all!..
In the book it says that 5 days should be enough to switch, so im guessing day 4/5 will be the roughest?
I’m doing 12days for the first bit before my first carb load.
Really surprised that i’m not run down without carbs…
[quote]Hello _kitty wrote:
Hi guys,
Apologies if this question has been asked beofre but I don’t have the time to go through all the pages on this thread.
I have been doing this diet for since Jan 1 and made good progress the only problem in the last few weeks is I seem to have some sort of nervous energy in me that makes it very difficult to fall asleep. Any suggestions? Anyone else had sleeping problems?[/quote]
Do you drink a lot of coffee or other caffinated beverages? If so, that could be it because the AD makes me more succeptable to caffeine.
AD
So I have to take about 10 days off of training…most businesses are closed because of a week (+) holiday.
I was figuring with the lull, a 36 hour carb up would not be too prudent so am considering going to just a 24 hour one.
Any thoughts (besides, “Try it and see?” =P )
hi everyone, my parents for some time have been expressing their concern about the amount of fat i’ve been eating. my family, some relatives and friends have scoffed at my dietary lifestyle.
mom made me go for a blood test 2 weeks ago and the results have just arrived.
Cholesterol (Total): 207 (normal values 140-200)
Cholesterol (HDL): 85 (normal values 46-65)
LDL Cholesterol: 116 (normal values <130)
Cholesterol Index: 2.4 (normal values <4.5)
Triglycerides: 28 (normal values <= 150)
now my parents can’t complain about the amount of fat i eat because i seem to be perfectly healthy 
i hope the blood test results will encourage them to exercise and start eating healthy themselves, especially since my father is in bad health and mom suffers from high bad cholesterol. hope these results will encourage you too to keep to the AD and believe in it.
another interesting thing is: i was experimenting with carbs last week and eating lots more vegetables and some fruit during the week. my performance seemed to decrease and i felt more lethargic. for the past 4 days this week, i’ve been eating very little veggies and most of my carbs have been coming from nuts and cheese, but my performance, endurance and strength has gone back up again.
Hey all,
I’m on my third week of another try of doing the AD. I’m paying for my own supplies at home now - trying to gauge what I spend on food/month, because I’m moving out someday soon.
Anyway, this last week I’ve been feeling pretty weak, nauseaus, and my workout last monday wasn’t really … great. I’ll be working out this evening too, but I’m still damn sore from monday, and it’s the bad kind of sore, actually. Could it be that I’m not eating enough?
A typical day of food would be
Breakfast:
A can of tuna in olive oil/sunflower oil, some olive oil, 50-100 grams of cheese
In between: some almonds or mixed nuts
Noon: 4 eggs + 100gr bacon
Afternoon: can of tuna in oil or 100gr of cheese
After work/dinner: mostly steak with some salad, broccoli, and feta cheese (sometimes I eat this sort of stuff at noon, too )
PWO: Shake w/ Whey and a few tablespoons of olive oil
Before bed: Full-fat cottage cheese, 300gr, sometimes low-fat cottage cheese w/ flax seeds, sometimes some cheese.
I also think I need to have some more varied food, also. I keep my carb ups quite short since I have a tendency to spill over, I aim for somewhere in the 24hr period.
Does anyone see any obvious flaws in this plan? Is it just not enough?
Btw, I am 190cm/6ft3in and about 100kg/220pounds. Fat% is 15-ish. I’m going to try to shed some fat for the summer first, I’ve never been lower than 15-ish ( and used to be fatter ), and once summer is over, I’ll pack on some mass
Grtz
Elviz
[quote]AlphaDragon wrote:
Hello _kitty wrote:
Hi guys,
Apologies if this question has been asked beofre but I don’t have the time to go through all the pages on this thread.
I have been doing this diet for since Jan 1 and made good progress the only problem in the last few weeks is I seem to have some sort of nervous energy in me that makes it very difficult to fall asleep. Any suggestions? Anyone else had sleeping problems?
Do you drink a lot of coffee or other caffinated beverages? If so, that could be it because the AD makes me more succeptable to caffeine.
AD[/quote]
Alpha Dragon,
No, def not too much caffeine. Maybe one coffee if that. Mostly water and decaf green tea.
I remember I also felt this weird energy rush when I did Atkins couple of years ago.
Guys,
Just wanted to share with you this wonderful product I bought yesterday. It’s cod livers in cod liver oil. It’s a Russian thing (I remembered it from my childhood when we used to spread it on bread like pate)and sold in Russian shops. Maybe you have a small community where you live. We have two of these shops in London.
It’s pure Omega 3. Few tablespoons and you’re not hungry. Maybe it’s not everyone’s thing but I love the taste, it’s very mild and not too fishy.
Hi guys,
Quick question: Did any of you guys feel really sore when you were in the first 2 weeks of this diet? I’m on Day 10, and my legs, back, everything, is pretty sore. I actually took this week as a back off week because my energy was so bad and my body’s still sore. I’m falling asleep at 9:00 everynight too. Anyway, I’m gonna stick it out. Just wondering if anyone else experienced the soreness before their first carb up.
thanks…
[quote]imcleish wrote:
Hi guys,
Quick question: Did any of you guys feel really sore when you were in the first 2 weeks of this diet? I’m on Day 10, and my legs, back, everything, is pretty sore. I actually took this week as a back off week because my energy was so bad and my body’s still sore. I’m falling asleep at 9:00 everynight too. Anyway, I’m gonna stick it out. Just wondering if anyone else experienced the soreness before their first carb up.
thanks… [/quote]
Par for the course. It will take several more weeks for everything to “level off”. Especially the energy part. I’m in my sixth month and have a hard time imagining what a lack of energy would feel like any more with the exception of an occasional sleepy spell on the first day of a carb load. I don’t remember any more soreness than usual, but everybody’s different.
Have no fear.