also sarah in my opinion 1 day carb up is plenty, considering
you have a small body, you’re not the 240 8% bodybuilder
you’re trying to lose fat
definately watch and see, but 2 straight days of carbs might be too much given you situation. especially if you dont want to count everything and just relax and eat on your carb day. I know sometimes once i start carbs it is hard to stop so 2 days during fat loss would be too much
[quote]sarah1 wrote:
Thank you so much for your posts. I know I worry too much about details…I seem to always have to find something to worry about. And Tribulus you are right on - I just want utter precision that realistically won’t happen. I am so absolutely PAINFULLY aware of the minutest changes in my body, and they freak me out…I try to step back and take perspective but no matter how hard I try I just end up in this whirl of worry, trying to control everything EXACTLY so as to do everything “perfectly” which of course is impossible.
You guys on this thread got the worst of it becuase I got injured. When I can just go and WORKOUT it helps SO much. It is my main form of stress relief. Yet now I simply can’t and it makes me want to cry every time I go to the gym and have to be so careful. So now my main stress relief has turned into a stressor, and I’m COMPLETELY bogged down. Hence the turning to diet, seeing if I can control everything exactly though the AD. Yet I’m beginning to see the AD requires a lot of fluctuations, which are probably going to stress me a lot.
Yet I find I get so many ideas about good things to try that I never end up sticking to just one so I don’t know how they work. I have actually seen increases in upper body strength in my last two workouts which is I suppose the one bright spot here. So it makes me feel like this time I need to actually stick with one thing…one program and one diet and see what happens before I move on to the next. It’s not a be all end all, right? If the diet doesn’t work well for me my body won’t be screwed up forever and I will just go back exactly the way I was before, right? So I can (try) to sit back and just try it for a while without worrying…[/quote]
Sarah, I am serious about that book I recommended, and I understand that you do worry… but it WILL change your life for the better by reading Psycho-Cybernetics 2000 and doing the methods they outline. After doing that for myself it seemed that nothing was impossible… just consider it.
i promise you all im not drunk when i say this but,…your all great. we have a nice little stubborn short tempered melodramatic spazz family
I’m considering changing routines soon…moving to a more of a “postural correction” program (I.E. Neanderthal no More).
I’m considering dropping from 20xbodyweight bulk to 18x…for no other reason than I’m not sure on what to do.
Any input on if I should change total cal intake or keep the same?
AD
Hi guys,
I’m new to the AD and am currently at Day #5. I’ve got a question, and didn’t really see it directly answered through the first 40 pages so I’ll just ask it. I apologize if it’s already been addressed.
With the 30 grams of carbs we’re allowed in a day, would it make sense to take 12 grams of dextrose Post workout? I ask this because I read on another board (different site) where some were advocating this.
Now, isn’t the reason BBs take Dex post workout to replace lost glycogen; and isn’t one of the points to the AD to exhaust all your glycogen levels? Can someone clear this up for me please? Thanks alot…
Alpha this is not an answer to your question but I’m doing the NNR workout as we speak and I enjoy it immensely. I’m also on the AD fyi.
[quote]sarah1 wrote:
Yet I find I get so many ideas about good things to try that I never end up sticking to just one so I don’t know how they work. I have actually seen increases in upper body strength in my last two workouts which is I suppose the one bright spot here. So it makes me feel like this time I need to actually stick with one thing…one program and one diet and see what happens before I move on to the next. It’s not a be all end all, right? If the diet doesn’t work well for me my body won’t be screwed up forever and I will just go back exactly the way I was before, right? So I can (try) to sit back and just try it for a while without worrying…[/quote]
The last paragraph sounds like you are on target a bit more now.
Enjoy this diet. OMG, I sure do. Eat all the things you’ve been avoiding before (if you’re like me) for ex. cheese, bacon, butter, whole eggs, and whipping cream. I think i said before, i carb up for 36 hours, dont count calories and consume mostly carbs of what ever nature hits my fancy. i have no sweet tooth so i dont chocolate binge or anything.
Again, I’m still new here. Also, I understand your mind set. I started mid december. I’ve gained 3 lbs now. Most importantly, i look BETTER, feel BETTER and i’m STRONGER by far.
Disconnect the female “all weight-gain is bad” side of your brain just for awhile and measure your progress on a larger scale than day to day.
The AD diet book has some good food suggestions. Do you have the e-book?
hmmm… I must say sarah that I can understand your worry right now. I’m quite sure my GF has the same thing going on. She needs something to worry about at most times. Not that she doesn’t have any valid worries mind you.
So for now just ignore most of the minutiae. just eat the Rx’d amount of cals as low carb for 5 and high for 2. And stay comfortable. You don’t HAVE to eat till you puke on CHO ups.
I’ve suggested before a fruit only CHO up with maybe one non-fruit meal. I find it’s a great way to find out what CHO makes you bloated (I have this problem too) and what you are good with. So feel free to play with your CHO up if you are a compulsive tinkerer. Bare in mind that the all fruit CHO up has some funny gastro-intestinal results, but all CHO ups have this.
I just avoid kick boxing on CHO ups. When ever I kick it’s like brrrrap. so if i start a kick pyramid on the pads it’s like a trumpet band is invading the gym, and they have never bathed. good times.
So the key is enjoyment. keep the carbs low and then high. Don’t worry about the two vegetables spinach and broccoli.
Relax.
Have fun.
Buy and read the very short book called:
“The tao of pooh” by Benjamin Hoff
It takes an hour to read and is the best book for relaxing your consciousness ever.
-chris
[quote]realpeanutbutter wrote:
I’ve suggested before a fruit only CHO up with maybe one non-fruit meal… [/quote]
I tried that last week chris… and I accidently caused damage to my toung by eating to much pineapple, lol.
What happened was I bought this tropical fruit basket from publix and decided to eat the entire thing for breakfast, well I was pretty full after just the top layer of it (which consisted of strawberries and grapes), and then I got to the pineapple, which I absolutely love and can eat for hours…
But how was I supposed to know that my tastebuds would burn like hell for atleast 24 hours after a pineapple bombardment? lol
Also, what I wasn’t expecting was that I felt absolutely no pump eating only fruit all day.
Today I replaced the fruit with a buncha oatmeal, cereal, and celltech rdy to drinks… and oh man, uber pump, im almost tempted to go workout just so I can see how big my arms can get.
Have you or anyone else gotten a pump from certain types of fruit before?
okay…what do you do when you’re in a foreign country, on the AD, and you have the flu…I’m so nauseus! 
And feverish and lethargic…pushed through workouts the last two days, today took off, and I honestly don’t think I can drag myself to the gym tomorrow…i’m surrently finishing day 3 of my low carb week…managed to stay with no carbs but damn I’m naseus. Not eating too much…fats don’t go over so well when you’re nauseus…
[quote]sarah1 wrote:
okay…what do you do when you’re in a foreign country, on the AD, and you have the flu…I’m so nauseus! And feverish and lethargic…pushed through workouts the last two days, today took off, and I honestly don’t think I can drag myself to the gym tomorrow…i’m surrently finishing day 3 of my low carb week…managed to stay with no carbs but damn I’m naseus. Not eating too much…fats don’t go over so well when you’re nauseus…[/quote]
when your in a foreign country yo look around and stay on the AD…when your so sick that you cant eat take a week or however much time it takes till you feel better…i find that trying to eat(not till ya puke) makes you feel better…just rest and eat …then when you can train and train hard
[quote]Bizmark wrote:
realpeanutbutter wrote:
I’ve suggested before a fruit only CHO up with maybe one non-fruit meal…
I tried that last week chris… and I accidently caused damage to my toung by eating to much pineapple, lol.
What happened was I bought this tropical fruit basket from publix and decided to eat the entire thing for breakfast, well I was pretty full after just the top layer of it (which consisted of strawberries and grapes), and then I got to the pineapple, which I absolutely love and can eat for hours…
But how was I supposed to know that my tastebuds would burn like hell for atleast 24 hours after a pineapple bombardment? lol
Also, what I wasn’t expecting was that I felt absolutely no pump eating only fruit all day.
Today I replaced the fruit with a buncha oatmeal, cereal, and celltech rdy to drinks… and oh man, uber pump, im almost tempted to go workout just so I can see how big my arms can get.
Have you or anyone else gotten a pump from certain types of fruit before?[/quote]
Yeah the all fruit has little of the pump effect but a lot less of the bloating uncomfortable feeling too.
It sorta is what it is really. If you can’t handle the CHO ups gastro-intestinally then this is a good way to keep it real for the first day and then try out other shit on D2. 2 days of oats and brown rice can really cause some discomfort.
It’s one alternative. An all mashed potato CHO up is easy on the guts too. Just leave out the cream in the mashers and vlend chili powder and burnt (i mean burnt) onions in with them and you shouldn’t have that “african child distended tummy” feeling.
For the best pump on Cho ups I do 2 workouts, one high vol squats and one high volume ring dips. And I eat corn pops while training (2-3 bowls over the course of 20 sets) and oatmeal and berries when not training. And a dose of surge after each training session.
This is what you do when you live in Canada and It’s snowing like a greasy kids hair and you have only homework to do besides CHO up. I looked stupid big. then it went away the nest day obv.
-chris
[quote]realpeanutbutter wrote:
Bizmark wrote:
realpeanutbutter wrote:
I’ve suggested before a fruit only CHO up with maybe one non-fruit meal…
I tried that last week chris… and I accidently caused damage to my toung by eating to much pineapple, lol.
What happened was I bought this tropical fruit basket from publix and decided to eat the entire thing for breakfast, well I was pretty full after just the top layer of it (which consisted of strawberries and grapes), and then I got to the pineapple, which I absolutely love and can eat for hours…
But how was I supposed to know that my tastebuds would burn like hell for atleast 24 hours after a pineapple bombardment? lol
Also, what I wasn’t expecting was that I felt absolutely no pump eating only fruit all day.
Today I replaced the fruit with a buncha oatmeal, cereal, and celltech rdy to drinks… and oh man, uber pump, im almost tempted to go workout just so I can see how big my arms can get.
Have you or anyone else gotten a pump from certain types of fruit before?
Yeah the all fruit has little of the pump effect but a lot less of the bloating uncomfortable feeling too.
It sorta is what it is really. If you can’t handle the CHO ups gastro-intestinally then this is a good way to keep it real for the first day and then try out other shit on D2. 2 days of oats and brown rice can really cause some discomfort.
It’s one alternative. An all mashed potato CHO up is easy on the guts too. Just leave out the cream in the mashers and vlend chili powder and burnt (i mean burnt) onions in with them and you shouldn’t have that “african child distended tummy” feeling.
For the best pump on Cho ups I do 2 workouts, one high vol squats and one high volume ring dips. And I eat corn pops while training (2-3 bowls over the course of 20 sets) and oatmeal and berries when not training. And a dose of surge after each training session.
This is what you do when you live in Canada and It’s snowing like a greasy kids hair and you have only homework to do besides CHO up. I looked stupid big. then it went away the nest day obv.
-chris[/quote]
eh i wish i was as crazy as you canadians with your pops eating workouts(pops are the shit by the way…good tastes)
I’m eating cashews…
…cashews are good.
If you want to,you can.
What I do is take about 40 grams of glutamine and 40 grams of protein powder that have 5 grams of BCAA’s. The glutamine will act as carbohydrates.
[quote]imcleish wrote:
Hi guys,
I’m new to the AD and am currently at Day #5. I’ve got a question, and didn’t really see it directly answered through the first 40 pages so I’ll just ask it. I apologize if it’s already been addressed.
With the 30 grams of carbs we’re allowed in a day, would it make sense to take 12 grams of dextrose Post workout? I ask this because I read on another board (different site) where some were advocating this.
Now, isn’t the reason BBs take Dex post workout to replace lost glycogen; and isn’t one of the points to the AD to exhaust all your glycogen levels? Can someone clear this up for me please? Thanks alot…[/quote]
really? I always take 5 grams glutamine & 10 grams BCAA immediately before and after I lift. I’ll just stick with that then. Thanks!
[quote]bkmacky9288 wrote:
realpeanutbutter wrote:
Bizmark wrote:
realpeanutbutter wrote:
I’ve suggested before a fruit only CHO up with maybe one non-fruit meal…
I tried that last week chris… and I accidently caused damage to my toung by eating to much pineapple, lol.
What happened was I bought this tropical fruit basket from publix and decided to eat the entire thing for breakfast, well I was pretty full after just the top layer of it (which consisted of strawberries and grapes), and then I got to the pineapple, which I absolutely love and can eat for hours…
But how was I supposed to know that my tastebuds would burn like hell for atleast 24 hours after a pineapple bombardment? lol
Also, what I wasn’t expecting was that I felt absolutely no pump eating only fruit all day.
Today I replaced the fruit with a buncha oatmeal, cereal, and celltech rdy to drinks… and oh man, uber pump, im almost tempted to go workout just so I can see how big my arms can get.
Have you or anyone else gotten a pump from certain types of fruit before?
Yeah the all fruit has little of the pump effect but a lot less of the bloating uncomfortable feeling too.
It sorta is what it is really. If you can’t handle the CHO ups gastro-intestinally then this is a good way to keep it real for the first day and then try out other shit on D2. 2 days of oats and brown rice can really cause some discomfort.
It’s one alternative. An all mashed potato CHO up is easy on the guts too. Just leave out the cream in the mashers and vlend chili powder and burnt (i mean burnt) onions in with them and you shouldn’t have that “african child distended tummy” feeling.
For the best pump on Cho ups I do 2 workouts, one high vol squats and one high volume ring dips. And I eat corn pops while training (2-3 bowls over the course of 20 sets) and oatmeal and berries when not training. And a dose of Surge after each training session.
This is what you do when you live in Canada and It’s snowing like a greasy kids hair and you have only homework to do besides CHO up. I looked stupid big. then it went away the nest day obv.
-chris
eh i wish i was as crazy as you canadians with your pops eating workouts(pops are the shit by the way…good tastes)[/quote]
you’re damn right. gotta have my pops. Try that shit at your local gym. Bring it in in your bag and see if they tel you that no food is allowed. then tell them you’re a diabetic and you need it. tee hee hee.
-chris
[quote]realpeanutbutter wrote:
bkmacky9288 wrote:
realpeanutbutter wrote:
Bizmark wrote:
realpeanutbutter wrote:
I’ve suggested before a fruit only CHO up with maybe one non-fruit meal…
I tried that last week chris… and I accidently caused damage to my toung by eating to much pineapple, lol.
What happened was I bought this tropical fruit basket from publix and decided to eat the entire thing for breakfast, well I was pretty full after just the top layer of it (which consisted of strawberries and grapes), and then I got to the pineapple, which I absolutely love and can eat for hours…
But how was I supposed to know that my tastebuds would burn like hell for atleast 24 hours after a pineapple bombardment? lol
Also, what I wasn’t expecting was that I felt absolutely no pump eating only fruit all day.
Today I replaced the fruit with a buncha oatmeal, cereal, and celltech rdy to drinks… and oh man, uber pump, im almost tempted to go workout just so I can see how big my arms can get.
Have you or anyone else gotten a pump from certain types of fruit before?
Yeah the all fruit has little of the pump effect but a lot less of the bloating uncomfortable feeling too.
It sorta is what it is really. If you can’t handle the CHO ups gastro-intestinally then this is a good way to keep it real for the first day and then try out other shit on D2. 2 days of oats and brown rice can really cause some discomfort.
It’s one alternative. An all mashed potato CHO up is easy on the guts too. Just leave out the cream in the mashers and vlend chili powder and burnt (i mean burnt) onions in with them and you shouldn’t have that “african child distended tummy” feeling.
For the best pump on Cho ups I do 2 workouts, one high vol squats and one high volume ring dips. And I eat corn pops while training (2-3 bowls over the course of 20 sets) and oatmeal and berries when not training. And a dose of Surge after each training session.
This is what you do when you live in Canada and It’s snowing like a greasy kids hair and you have only homework to do besides CHO up. I looked stupid big. then it went away the nest day obv.
-chris
eh i wish i was as crazy as you canadians with your pops eating workouts(pops are the shit by the way…good tastes)
you’re damn right. gotta have my pops. Try that shit at your local gym. Bring it in in your bag and see if they tel you that no food is allowed. then tell them you’re a diabetic and you need it. tee hee hee.
-chris[/quote]
almost sounds like youve used thatline before. Fortunatly/unfortunatly for e i have a decent gym at home. ill try out the pops once im done cutting to a lower BF%
hey every 1 i got a ebook called gems from vine gironda its a intresting read as u know he also advocated a high fat diet if any 1 wants it pls pm ur emails i will send u tht book
[quote]sarah1 wrote:
okay…what do you do when you’re in a foreign country, on the AD, and you have the flu…I’m so nauseus! And feverish and lethargic…pushed through workouts the last two days, today took off, and I honestly don’t think I can drag myself to the gym tomorrow…i’m surrently finishing day 3 of my low carb week…managed to stay with no carbs but damn I’m naseus. Not eating too much…fats don’t go over so well when you’re nauseus…[/quote]
Same thing happened to me last summer with my first attempt at this diet. I felt horrible… and nothing really fixes it. You gotta just push through it and eventually its better. I didn’t push through it tho… I gave up. lol
But I’m not a good example, and now I’m doing it and I feel fine all day while working out way harder than I was over the summer, so it does just take a while to start feeling better.