Someone told me that on the carb up days you should limit protein intake… is this true?
Hi all, I’ve been reading a few pages of this thread for hours now. I am really excited to try this Anabolic Diet.
My concern is that I am very skinny . 140lbs, 5"7 and I am 20 yrs old.
I was wondering if this diet would do wonders for me ? I’ve been on a program which requires 30-40% carbs intake to gain weight and muscles mass. According to the books, without Carbs I won’t gain a pound !
Please help me, I am really excited about this and want to look good for the chicks :D. I have a great motivation and I have the fundamentals of weight training, as far as reading from onlne blogs and books.
Thanks to all !
[quote]AlphaDragon wrote:
Yup…only in my calves. That’s it. Nowhere else. Really. ;)[/quote]
me too hehe, only in the calves.
[quote]SkinnyShady wrote:
Hi all, I’ve been reading a few pages of this thread for hours now. I am really excited to try this Anabolic Diet.
My concern is that I am very skinny . 140lbs, 5"7 and I am 20 yrs old.
I was wondering if this diet would do wonders for me ? I’ve been on a program which requires 30-40% carbs intake to gain weight and muscles mass. According to the books, without Carbs I won’t gain a pound !
Please help me, I am really excited about this and want to look good for the chicks :D. I have a great motivation and I have the fundamentals of weight training, as far as reading from onlne blogs and books.
Thanks to all ![/quote]
Your right…carbs can be important to grow. That is why this diet has carb ups…as well as to influence hormones in a positive way. If this diet is adhered to properly you should definetely make gains. It is a lifestyle change however. Bear in mind that you don’t need to put on that much weight to look good so stick it out. I’m 6’0 69kg 6% bf and have often been described as skinny when wearing a top but once its off I’ve never had anything but compliments from women…
It’s proportions that count in that area. and a low bf doesn’t hurt either, and is very achievable on this diet also. Read from the start of this thread and you will probably have a full understanding of what is involved. Good luck. Hope it all goes well.
OMC
[quote]dissipate wrote:
AlphaDragon wrote:
Yup…only in my calves. That’s it. Nowhere else. Really. 
me too hehe, only in the calves.
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…and only in the right one.
[quote]OMC wrote:
Your right…carbs can be important to grow. That is why this diet has carb ups…as well as to influence hormones in a positive way. If this diet is adhered to properly you should definetely make gains. It is a lifestyle change however. Bear in mind that you don’t need to put on that much weight to look good so stick it out. I’m 6’0 69kg 6% bf and have often been described as skinny when wearing a top but once its off I’ve never had anything but compliments from women…
It’s proportions that count in that area. and a low bf doesn’t hurt either, and is very achievable on this diet also. Read from the start of this thread and you will probably have a full understanding of what is involved. Good luck. Hope it all goes well.
OMC
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THanks for the reply - so this dieting style can work for a skinny guy ? I want to gain lean mass. I am just afraid that if I cut down the carbs from monday - friday I will loose weight and look more skinny ! which is what I don’t want.
If this is good for skinny guys looking to gain muscle then I will most defenitely start by next week.
THanks for the reply - so this dieting style can work for a skinny guy ? I want to gain lean mass. I am just afraid that if I cut down the carbs from monday - friday I will loose weight and look more skinny ! which is what I don’t want.
If this is good for skinny guys looking to gain muscle then I will most defenitely start by next week.
[quote]AlphaDragon wrote:
dissipate wrote:
AlphaDragon wrote:
Yup…only in my calves. That’s it. Nowhere else. Really.
me too hehe, only in the calves.
…and only in the right one. [/quote]
I’m not sure about this (puzzled look) only the right calve. Low potassium is usually the culprit for cramps as you know. Maybe try eating a couple stalks of celery a day during the week or something? I can’t figure out why so localized though. Does it happen when you’re working them or just sitting around too?
[quote]snowman19 wrote:
Someone told me that on the carb up days you should limit protein intake… is this true?[/quote]
I can’t seem to find much info on why this is, but it is the recommendation. I don’t go as low as the book says, but do scale back from the weekdays and everything appears to be fine.
[quote]SkinnyShady wrote:
THanks for the reply - so this dieting style can work for a skinny guy ? I want to gain lean mass. I am just afraid that if I cut down the carbs from monday - friday I will loose weight and look more skinny ! which is what I don’t want.
If this is good for skinny guys looking to gain muscle then I will most defenitely start by next week.[/quote]
You will most assuredly NOT get skinnier on this diet if you follow the principles. Just be prepared to invest some time because after the initial adaptation it will still take several weeks for everything to normalize. Especially energy consistency. It reprograms the way your body lives at a very foundational level. The payoff is well worth it, but it will not happen by Christmas.
[quote]SkinnyShady wrote:
THanks for the reply - so this dieting style can work for a skinny guy ? I want to gain lean mass. I am just afraid that if I cut down the carbs from monday - friday I will loose weight and look more skinny ! which is what I don’t want.
If this is good for skinny guys looking to gain muscle then I will most defenitely start by next week.[/quote]
Yes as trib said it should work for you. I started the diet a couple of months ago now and given a hectic week of booze and carbs, I’m repeating the induction phase (starting from today). Not sure if its necessary but seeing that I never finished it fully originally…I don’t see it as a bad idea (I had been eating low carb for two weeks before I decided to start).
When I started the diet I was eating more than I ever have. I still dropped around 2 kilo’s but this was a mixture of water, glycogen and fat. Trib also pointed out that you won’t get the full benefits till after christmas (assuming you make it through the holiday season, just be careful to schedule your carb days to suit). My advice to you would be to FORGET about gaining size !!gasp!!..instead focus on getting adapted fully , work on getting sufficent macro’s and water. Once your weight has stablised and you have the diet under control then you can work on developing your 20" pipes by eating small villages of carbs.
So SLIM with all that in mind I’d like to give you an insight into your future with a question.
HAVE YOU GOT YOUR TICKETS???
TICKETS TO THE GUN SHOW (couldn’t resist)
[quote]AlphaDragon wrote:
dissipate wrote:
AlphaDragon wrote:
Yup…only in my calves. That’s it. Nowhere else. Really.
me too hehe, only in the calves.
…and only in the right one. [/quote]
At one time I kept getting calf cramps, and only when I was asleep. I finally figured out it was because I was kicking the bed spread down until it was piled up on my feet and pushing them into a funny position. I took it off the bed and haven’t had a problem since.
Wassup guys, I am typing this day 1 on my Anabolic Diet. Last night I went out and bought a couple pounds of fish, roast beef, salami, and ground beef.
My diet so far is as follows:
Gym
Post-Gym- Protein Shake
Morning- 3 fried eggs, 1 sausage
Mid Meal- 3oz of roast beef and salami
Lunch- Hamburger sized groundbeef, <1 apple (to take care of carbs)
I plan on doing after this:
Mid Meal- Protein shake
Dinner- Salmon
Post-Dinner- Protein shake?
How is this so far? Am I on the right track? Any suggestions? I am getting a fiber supplement today. When would I want to squeeze that in? After breakfast? My goal on this diet is to cutup, and maintain as much muscle as possible.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
AlphaDragon wrote:
dissipate wrote:
AlphaDragon wrote:
Yup…only in my calves. That’s it. Nowhere else. Really.
me too hehe, only in the calves.
…and only in the right one.
I’m not sure about this (puzzled look) only the right calve. Low potassium is usually the culprit for cramps as you know. Maybe try eating a couple stalks of celery a day during the week or something? I can’t figure out why so localized though. Does it happen when you’re working them or just sitting around too?[/quote]
Only once in my life (that I can recall) did it cramp up during a workout. All other times that I recall, it happened about an hour before I was to wake up.
[quote]Beowulf67 wrote:
AlphaDragon wrote:
dissipate wrote:
AlphaDragon wrote:
Yup…only in my calves. That’s it. Nowhere else. Really.
me too hehe, only in the calves.
…and only in the right one.
At one time I kept getting calf cramps, and only when I was asleep. I finally figured out it was because I was kicking the bed spread down until it was piled up on my feet and pushing them into a funny position. I took it off the bed and haven’t had a problem since. [/quote]
Thanks for the input. I don’t use one, although I’m beginning to think that maybe I unconsciously flex them (maybe keep them flexed) until they cramp. Again, this is a maybe.
Wassup guys, I am ending day 1 – as I look at my log I am very diasappointed 
TOTALS:
Calories: 2157
Protein: 151.62g (58%)
Fat: 90.67g (34.5%)
Carbohydrates: 20.7g (8%)
Any suggestions on foods that are better for fat than protein? Although I want to cut, I am supposed to be getting 3000 calories for the first 3-4 weeks, right? Any suggestions?
For anyone interested…
I mentioned in another thread that I was doing the V-Diet currently. Some had some questions as to why, etc.
Firstly, I wanted to drow a few lbs quickly, but more importantly, I went after the challenge and the behavior changes. I fell back into an old AD trap…I let my carb-ups become insane 2 day feasts and while I didnt gain a ton of fat, i just started feeling crappy.
But, all that is done now.
I’m noticing that there are some similarities between the VD and the AD.
Both very low carb, both require much disipline during the week, both utilize healthy fats, and both give you a break once a week.
Now, the VD break is much shorter…one meal, no junk, just healthy food. But, damn it does tasted good after all shakes. My first meal was excellent…steak, lots of veggies, some chili. But, unlike when I would backslide on my carb ups, after the meal, it was no big deal for me to go back to shakes, so perhaps the behavior changes are takin place already.
I stated in the other thread that when the VD is done I’ll transition back into the AD but with cleaner, shorter carb ups. No matter what anyone tells me, I don’t need more than a few carb meals on saturday…any more and i feel like crap.
I’m also lookin into afterburn, cause coach dan john said its good.
But, on the VD I feel like I did when I did the pure AD…strong, fast, and really flippin healthy.
One last thing…I said the VD has been pretty easy for me…lifing is great, losing fat, etc…
but, theres two things that make this interesting to me. They are the same, but they are both good and bad. I changed careers this past year. I became a chef and opened a restruant. Yup, I do the VD while being around, cooking, and smelling really awesome food for several hours a day. haha think of that next time someone complains that they had a craving.
But, this is also good because I get food at prices that are insane. Chicken breasts at 98c/lb anyone? haha I already got a lot of my post VD food. 40lb box chicken breast…25lb box frozen broccoi rabe…box of t-bones, bucket of feta cheese, imported EV olive oil, turkey breasts…it’s nice because I can get pretty much any veg. or protein that I want at any time for a really nice price.
Ok, my ramblings are done. Any questions? Ask away.
Good to have you back IC and best of luck with the restaurant.