My Experience On the Anabolic Diet

[quote]dunbar wrote:
Hey everyone. Can anyone who does shakes for this diet list their recipes. I love making shakes but I’m finding that since I don’t need the protein from my casien/whey powder my shakes are coming out crappy and much less thick.

I’m using natty peanut butter, sugar free jello, a little heavy cream which doesn’t seem to be doing much…any thoughts on how to make it thicker?

Thanks

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Just pop in the protein. you may not need it and the AD may be PRO sparing but there is no harm in adding a bit of protein if you ‘feel’ like a shake. Also try adding ice and making shales post training when solid food might not be so easy to get down and keep down.

Man it has been a while since I’ve been on this thread. Good to see some kind souls helping out their fellow man.

-chris

Hi, toogood:

I used the midweek spike - Wednesday, my rest day between two day splits - for strength purposes, not bulking, and it worked well, giving me a boost when I needed it. I kept the carbs to about 300g on Wednesday and tried to hit 700g again on Saturday. Give it a try, but I would suggest starting conservatively on the mid week spike and not going whole hog (or wheat) until you find the balance point.

To the poster about too much broccoli, my answer is simple: if you start to shit green then you have eaten too much. It takes a lot, though.

After a three week vacation, Im getting back into the AD. Currently on day 4 of the break in, feeling great.

Last time I did the break in, I was not eating enough cals. That has been corrected this time, eating between 3500-4000 a day (6’1", 195).

Typical day eating (desk job helps):

7am: 5 eggs, 1oz swiss, coffee w/ heavy cream

8:30-9:30am lift heavy

10am: 5 eggs, 2 oz swiss
1pm: 8oz burger, 1oz chedda, Tbsp flax
4pm: same
7pm: same
10pm: handful of nuts then bed
If my cals are low, I just stuff some more mixed nuts here or there!

Funny thing is, I eat the same food, everyday, same times during the day…and I LOVE it!!

Keep working hard!!

-Aspengc8

A little over 2 months on the AD so far for me, here are the results:

-gain of 1kg but probably due to starting creatine last month (I’m not trying to lose weight)
-better muscle definition and vascularity, especially thighs and shoulders
-decreasing love handles and fatty areas
-increased energy levels
-increases in all leg lifts
-slight decrease in stomach and butt measurements
-slight increase in chest and waist
-bullshit tanita scale and calipers show me slightly lower bf% than when I started
-More importantly, the Mirror tells me I’m at a lower bf%
-MOST importantly, The Wife actually said my love handles were smaller today :slight_smile:

I have stayed between 16-18x per day, maybe going slightly over on Saturdays. My carb ups are from Saturday morning to Sunday lunch. For the first month I carefully weighed and measured everything and logged calories and contents, so I’ve got a very good idea of what’s what. For the last month I have just eaten the proper foods. During the week my carbs all come from eggs, nuts, broccoli, spinach, cauliflower, green sald, cheese and whey protein.

I broke my hand in August and had little use it until the pin removal surgery 3 weeks ago. I was able to do front and back squats and light lunges and single leg stuff though. My workouts have been all about legs and core and that’s probably why I’ve got a slight increase of 1 cm on my waist. I can’t explain the increase on my chest except that all those squats have increased muscles EVERYWHERE on my body, even on the forearm of the broken hand!

I was a little nervous about having enough energy for 3-4 hour tennis battles, but yesterday I played 3 hours of marathon rallies and finished feeling like I still had more to give. (This morning I can barely walk though…) During workouts or 2 hours of tennis I consume 50g of whey and 5g of creatine. I don’t take any carbs post wo.

I really enjoy the AD. I love to eat and I have never eaten so much in my life and felt so good as I am on the AD. My goal is to gain lean mass and lose fat without really losing any weight. So far, the AD has helped me do this.

I highly reccommend anyone on the fence give the AD a try.

It was the 6 week to 2 month point where my energy leveled off too. I’m in my 4th month now and it’s not even an issue at all. I keep saying it over and over, but this plan is not for the impatient. It will pay off in spades, but must be given a few months to fully take over.

Lemme also throw out another reminder about water. It’s not very sexy and gets overlooked, but sure you’re getting plenty of it. Your kidneys will thank you.

Well I started up again 12 days ago and today is my first carb load, I’ve made it so that I can have another carb load on thanksgiving. Boy am I afraid of carbs. Their like my worst enemy or something. I had to actually talk myself into putting a piece of fruit in my mouth, lol.

All I can say after two hours of loading is… I hate carbs… I hate them so so very much. My energy is perfect and i look great while on the no carb weekdays… but once this carb load comes along It makes me soooo lethargic and not feeling good at all. I know alot of you other AD’ers experience this too.

But I’ve got a question for you guys… what do you say to people when your out to eat with them and you have to follow the rules of the AD? It’s kinda an awkward situation for me, because I will try to order just the meat so that I don’t have to even look at the carbs, but sometimes I can’t do that. And then when I try to substitute the fries for a caesar salad or something, I get called a health freak, even though the person who I’m usually eating with is someone who has way better genetics and can afford to eat junk without worrying.

Any of you guys have some good comebacks or anything? I’ve just tried explaining the diet I’m on, making up some lame excuse, or something along those lines, but they all still make me feel awkward.

What have you all done in those situations?

[quote]Bizmark wrote:
Any of you guys have some good comebacks or anything? I’ve just tried explaining the diet I’m on, making up some lame excuse, or something along those lines, but they all still make me feel awkward.

What have you all done in those situations?[/quote]

Well… in life, you only have to answer to yourself. My friends give me soooo much shit for not eating the way they do. Then again, they also know that I’m as strong and sometimes stronger than they are (despite giving up some significant poundage to some of them).

Honestly, I just do my best to not let what other people say about my being “backwards” get to me. It’s just not worth it. Fact of the matter is, what works for you is what you should do. You have no need for a comeback.

Explain the diet and why you’re doing it with confidence. And be confident it’ll have the effect you so desire: as you believe, so you are/will become. Finally, carbs suck. They are a damn minefield. Freakin’ insulin… then again, God bless insulin.

[quote]ovalpline wrote:
Bizmark wrote:
Finally, carbs suck. They are a damn minefield. Freakin’ insulin… then again, God bless insulin.

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I have to totatly agree with you on that one, i have just come back from holiday and my friends that i went with were making fun of the way i eat etc but at the end of the day i was the one with bags full of energy while they were having the early nights.

Ad All The Way !!!

Every time I read this thread I feel the need to get back on the AD.

Did it before and during last summer, afterwards switched to a more regular diet and gained fat all over the place, swelling like a damn balloon. I’ve already switched back to a more low-carb thing (sure works better for me), but it’s not the AD yet.

I’ll be ready soon though, to give it a new roll…

Day 4 and loving it!

Hey all,

Great thread! - even though I’ve only been through about 1/3 of it.

My experience with this way of eating goes back at least 10 years, off and on. My background is mostly powerlifting for 15 or so years, and most recently enjoying the crossfit method of destroying myself supplemented with the O- and powerlifts.

The short of my eating problem is contained in a sensitive gut from my teenage years leading me to investigate a way to eat that would prevent me from traveling too far from a comode. Years later someone introduced me to Dr. D’s original AD printed in that spiral notebook fashion. The diet solved my gut problems, due to not being able to mix PRO’s and CHO’s, and, having a tendancy to be overfat, taught me an effective way to deal with that as well.

I am far from being a disciplined eater and do not claim to have formal nutritional schooling, but I do know the effect ths diet has on me in all sorts of variations. My version of the diet traditionally has been no carb-up phase. I simply rarely have a meal consisting of carbs when I feel like it - sometimes lasting for hours ; )

Good luck to all who are beginning or still learning about the diet. The carbohydrate is where evil dwells - just be observant as to what is going on with your own body and don’t look for excuses to explain why something did not happened as planned. Alcohol will bring a fat-burning halt to this diet! As will hidden sugar and carbs. Stay hydrated, get your greens in, take a moderate amount of trace minerals and lift hard, fast and heavy.

Enjoy.

[quote]gitrpumped wrote:
Day 4 and loving it![/quote]

Get ready for your crash buddy LOL! I only say that because nearly everybody has one and though mine was short it did suck. I just don’t want that enthusiasm to be dampened once you get over the honeymoon.

I just started seasoning my steaks and burgers and remembered how tantalizing salt makes meat taste. What’s everyone’s opinion on salt? Is it something I use without recourse? Dr. D mentions that salt is OK. Anybody have an opinion on this matter?

Any of you guys have some good comebacks or anything? I’ve just tried explaining the diet I’m on, making up some lame excuse, or something along those lines, but they all still make me feel awkward.

What have you all done in those situations?

If I’m dining out and my companions give me weird looks when I ask for no crutons on my salad or subbing broccoli for the baked potato I just say I’m on Atkins/South Beach/Sugar Busters. They just smile and nod. It saves a lot of discussion and explaination to people who really wouldn’t get it or care. (Kinda like people who want you to write them a routine when you know damn good and well they aren’t going to stick to it)

[quote]ovalpline wrote:
I just started seasoning my steaks and burgers and remembered how tantalizing salt makes meat taste. What’s everyone’s opinion on salt? Is it something I use without recourse? Dr. D mentions that salt is OK. Anybody have an opinion on this matter?[/quote]

You would have to make excess sodium your mission in life to get too much on this diet.

We’ve been talking about this here: http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1336371

[quote]BuddaBill wrote:
If I’m dining out and my companions give me weird looks when I ask for no crutons on my salad or subbing broccoli for the baked potato I just say I’m on Atkins/South Beach/Sugar Busters. They just smile and nod. It saves a lot of discussion and explaination to people who really wouldn’t get it or care. (Kinda like people who want you to write them a routine when you know damn good and well they aren’t going to stick to it)[/quote]

I almost never eat out and actually can’t remember when I did with someone other than my wife and daughter, but something like this is what I’ would do.

When we have functions at work I always have my own food and just say thanks, but I’m diabetic and have to eat my own.

It just about never pays going into more detail than that. The people who know me well know what I’m doing and don’t ask anymore.

I will say that no amount of pressure would persuade me to compromise. If anybody really doesn’t like it that’s too bad.

[quote]LVZzed wrote:

Every time I read this thread I feel the need to get back on the AD.

Did it before and during last summer, afterwards switched to a more regular diet and gained fat all over the place, swelling like a damn balloon. I’ve already switched back to a more low-carb thing (sure works better for me), but it’s not the AD yet.

I’ll be ready soon though, to give it a new roll…[/quote]

Indeed… just reading and commenting with others has me on a streak. I’m usually not a regimented eater but I do go through bouts of super discipline and this thread has got me rev’ed up - enough to even put the bottle down! Let’s see where this goes…

You would have to make excess sodium your mission in life to get too much on this diet.

I agree with Tiribulus on the salt issue with one exception: some younger guys who are focused more on muscle and strength at any cost may tend to get nourishment out of a can. I.e. I knew someone who survived mainly on canned and other processed goods and he needed to back off. The one caveat being that if you’re doing the low-carb thing without, or with less often carb feedings, your body will naturally wash out the minerals it does not need if your water intake is normal - that is, you quench your thirst.

BuddaBill wrote:
If I’m dining out and my companions give me weird looks when I ask for no crutons on my salad or subbing broccoli for the baked potato I just say I’m on Atkins/South Beach/Sugar Busters. They just smile and nod. It saves a lot of discussion and explaination to people who really wouldn’t get it or care. (Kinda like people who want you to write them a routine when you know damn good and well they aren’t going to stick to it)

I almost never eat out and actually can’t remember when I did with someone other than my wife and daughter, but something like this is what I’ would do.

When we have functions at work I always have my own food and just say thanks, but I’m diabetic and have to eat my own.

It just about never pays going into more detail than that. The people who know me well know what I’m doing and don’t ask anymore.

I will say that no amount of pressure would persuade me to compromise. If anybody really doesn’t like it that’s too bad.[/quote]

I got used to ordering the meal as offered and picking out only what I want. Eating out will always cost you more anyway, unless you’re at a steakhouse.

Just eat what you want - people will get used to you. Besides, the buns from all the cheeseburgers make great feed for the birds in the park.

OK guys, i need some advice from people who have done this diet, i need to know if it fits my needs, ive done the search, read the article about it, went over this forum, but i would like to hear from the people who actually have lived it.

Im 5"10, around 190, low enough body fat %, low enough where i can see 4 abs, I train heavy, mostly in the lower rep ranges, focusing on the big 3, with powerlifting as a goal in the near future, but i also train to look good nekkid.

My strength is decent for a 20 year old. Benching close to 300, squatting at 400, and deadlifting close to 400. i want to continue to up my weight, with a large majority of it being LBM. Does it sound like im a good candidate for the anabolic diet ? any advice or suggestions are appreciated. --WS4

[quote]WS4adumbastard wrote:
OK guys, i need some advice from people who have done this diet, i need to know if it fits my needs, ive done the search, read the article about it, went over this forum, but i would like to hear from the people who actually have lived it.

Im 5"10, around 190, low enough body fat %, low enough where i can see 4 abs, I train heavy, mostly in the lower rep ranges, focusing on the big 3, with powerlifting as a goal in the near future, but i also train to look good nekkid.

My strength is decent for a 20 year old. Benching close to 300, squatting at 400, and deadlifting close to 400. i want to continue to up my weight, with a large majority of it being LBM. Does it sound like im a good candidate for the anabolic diet ? any advice or suggestions are appreciated. --WS4[/quote]

simply put…YES…but if your looking to put on muscle while looking good “nekkid” you should be prepared to make small sacrafices with the latter due to surlus calories…

Having said that i’ve been doing this diet for over a month now and although i’m eating more now than ever before, a bf test yesterday showed my bodyfat has dropped from 8% to somewhere around 6%… Have also lost weight but not strenght. You should be able to strip that small gain in body fat off quick when the time comes anyway. This diet is perfect for looking great all year round…good luck

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
gitrpumped wrote:
Day 4 and loving it!

Get ready for your crash buddy LOL! I only say that because nearly everybody has one and though mine was short it did suck. I just don’t want that enthusiasm to be dampened once you get over the honeymoon.[/quote]

I had that mini crash on day 3, I’m guessing from what I’ve been reading there’s worse ahead, but I’ll make it…Thanks for all the help