Quick little thing i’m laughing at right now. There’s a show on TV about all the “radical celebrity diets” showing the only way to get as “skinny and beautiful” as all these celebs have. They’re saying the only way to get to a low bodyfat is obviously by crash dieting and lowfat eating while overexercising to the extreme. I’m laughing at this because i’m taking in over 3000 cals per day and yet just measured my bodyfat at 8%. The show is called “Celebrity diet secrets” and it’s making me want to shoot myself thinking about all the poor humans who are watching/believing this shit. Pick up some steak!
Also, hand picked blueberries are amazing. Went out a few times in the past few weeks and picked over 150 cups of them. Freezer is now stocked for many carbloads to come.
EDIT: I should also mention that when i started the AD style eating, i was around 10% bodyfat and 8 pounds lighter. No complaints here, it’s not bad for 3 or 4 months!
thinking of doing the ad again. my question is i had a problem with energy at and during workout time. also had a problem with personal bests. what did i do wrong? im rereading the book and he talks of fat for energy and all this strength gains,none of which i had on my two ad expereices. i did lose body fat yes but had zero energy in the 8 weeks and zero strength gains either attempt.one thing im certain of is its not the diet that failed it something i did and i just dont what so i come here for help from all you experts.thanks in adavance
[quote]mikemazz wrote:
thinking of doing the ad again. my question is i had a problem with energy at and during workout time. also had a problem with personal bests. what did i do wrong? im rereading the book and he talks of fat for energy and all this strength gains,none of which i had on my two ad expereices. i did lose body fat yes but had zero energy in the 8 weeks and zero strength gains either attempt.one thing im certain of is its not the diet that failed it something i did and i just dont what so i come here for help from all you experts.thanks in adavance
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It might be better for you to ease into the diet while making the transition to burning fat as energy instead of doing the AD induction phase… I think the high calories on the induction phase coupled with the body not being familiar with using fat as a ready source of energy is the killer for guys like you and I… Regardless, many feel like shit beyond the 1st week of the induction phase but it really doesn’t have to be this way and it probably isn’t what you would call healthy.
Dr. Barry Groves, author of Eat Fat, Get Thin, recommends not doing an induction phase exactly for this reason. He says to start off with 60 grams of carbs to avoid these symptoms and that this amount is definitely low enough to allow your body to start using stored fat as energy. Over time you can start lowering carbs if you want to do something like the AD without feeling like crap because your body is already using fat! The Ratios are like this… carbs 10-15%, protein 15-25%, fat 60-70%. Oh, he and his wife have been doing this diet for over 40 years and maintained their ideal weight the whole time.
Barry Groves is by no means a strength/athletics specialist but I think using his principles are a great idea especially for those that are having problems.
[quote]mikemazz wrote:
thinking of doing the ad again. my question is i had a problem with energy at and during workout time. also had a problem with personal bests. what did i do wrong? im rereading the book and he talks of fat for energy and all this strength gains,none of which i had on my two ad expereices. i did lose body fat yes but had zero energy in the 8 weeks and zero strength gains either attempt.one thing im certain of is its not the diet that failed it something i did and i just dont what so i come here for help from all you experts.thanks in adavance
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hmmmmm…Are you certain you were getting all the fats you needed?
That would be my first guess, anyway.
One thing that I’ve found to be invaluable is fitday.com (I sound like a paid spokesperson anymore)…but seriously, it’s the only way to really keep track and to really KNOW what you’re taking in.
Of course the best starting point is Dr DiPas’ 60/35/5 (F/P/C)recommendation (w/ carbs @30g or less).
Then we need to be sure we’re gettiing our EFA’s & DHA’sand aa good balance of Poly and Mono’s…
Fish caps (Flameout), Flax oil, olive oil and heavy cream are great for this.
My energy only lags if I scrimp on fats, and it doesn’t take much!
Even a slight drop …down to say 50%cals from fats…And I feel it right away.
Now go get some steak and get back on the AD bandwagon!!
hey guys thanks for the advice.my first guess was that i wasnt a-eating enough, and b-maybe need for fats.
now guys have any of you put on muscle mass and lost bf during this diet? that is one thing i never expd either. i did lose body fat quickly but didnt seem to put on muscle at all and again that could be a factor of not eating enough.
i know that when i do the traditional bulking cycle like im on now i tend to get chubby in the mid section and put on some muscle and get some decent streghth gains.
[quote]mikemazz wrote:
hey guys thanks for the advice.my first guess was that i wasnt a-eating enough, and b-maybe need for fats.
now guys have any of you put on muscle mass and lost bf during this diet? that is one thing i never expd either. i did lose body fat quickly but didnt seem to put on muscle at all and again that could be a factor of not eating enough.
i know that when i do the traditional bulking cycle like im on now i tend to get chubby in the mid section and put on some muscle and get some decent streghth gains.[/quote]
After I figured out exactly how to ‘fine tune’ things, yes…I’m able to put on muscle and stay lean -and even get leaner. I too tend to put put on fat easily. However, the AD allows me size and strength gains without the added fat which always used to accompany those gains.
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tell me what you did to fine tune things. i want the stregth,muscle gains and body fat drop and i belive i can accomplsih this only on the ad,the other way of eating doesnt do it for me.i get fat and gross but stronger and more muscle and then like the book said i cut and lose it all.its a horrid cycle.lol
I think because the Anabolic Diet lets you be “dirtier,” people forget/ignore what we know to be optimal for physiological health (i.e. not necessarily body comp). During the high fat week, you can basically binge on fats - if you overeat fat you’re likely going to excrete them as ketones (and hence avoid turning them into body fat cells.) Note you can still produce ketones and use them as an energy source while not in ketosis, so don’t start using ketosix to judge your success.
On the weekends all those carbs are going toward muscle glycogen supercompensation so you can eat your waffles and teriyaki. With this kind of freedom “clean” eating tends to take a back seat.
But, here’s what I’ve noticed - energy wise, eat your veggies! Remember, 30g of “active” carbohydrate. If you’re eating metric tons of cruciferous veggies you can get close to 50 - 60g of total carbohydrate and still be under the 30g limit.
Secondly, fish oils! I double up my fish oil intake to “balance” out my fats - more saturates, more monos, you need more polys (see Berardi’s Precision Nutrition).
Lastly - proper workout nutrition. Whether you’re using a BCAA/creatine combo, whey isolate, or something else, you should be dropping some aminos into your bloodstream prior to and after your workout.
I’ve been doing a little research on how much of each type of fat to be eating and found this on Loren Cordain’s website at http://www.thepaleodiet.com/faqs/#Fats:
“Now let’s get back to the fat content of our ancestral hunter-gatherer diet. They frequently ate more fats than we do, but they were almost invariably healthy fats. Using computerized dietary analyses of the wild plant and animal foods, our research team has shown that the usual fat breakdown in hunter-gatherer diets was 55-65% monounsaturated fat, 20-25% polyunsaturated fat (with an omega-6:omega-3 ratio of 2:1), 10-15% saturated fat (with about half being the neutral stearic acid). This balance of fats is exactly what you will be getting when you follow our dietary recommendations.”
Anyone think those numbers are bad or generally agree?
I follow Berardi’s 33/33/33 split between all of them. Not obsessively - I just stick to eggs, lean meats, olive oil, nuts, avocadoes, and supplement with flax and fish oil. It all works out in the end.
Currently, I’m having some trouble. I’m trying to decide if I need to go back to a mixed diet, with P+C meals post workout, or stick with the Anabolic diet.
I’m not sure that I’m working the Carb up correctly as I’m still just kind of going for it when the time comes and eating a bit more of “unclean” foods than I probably should, considering I’m wanting to lean out. I usually have 1-2 servings of oatmeal with berries, and from there I usually have an apple, pizza, some sort of ice cream and I’ve been on a waffle kick the last two weekends. The waffles come fully equipped with strawberries or blueberries, whipped cream, and syrup.
I’ve been cutting caloric intake during the week and using the Carb up primarily as a calorie spike, along with glycogen restoration etc. I might need to adjust the types of meats I’m eating and move to eating steak 1-2 a week with chicken and fish making up the bulk with egg whites and cheeses making up the breakfast portion of things. I do eat nuts, spinach, and broccoli in fair quantities as well as olive oil by the tbsp with my protein shakes. Can anyone make a suggestion as to what I could change? I’ve had a few ideas, but I’m not 100% sure which way to go.
[quote]itisfinished wrote:
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You should probably clean up that carb up. What I do is have one “dirty” meal on each day of my carb up, the rest of the time eating apples, sweet potatoes, brown rice, etc.
Also, you said you’re eating at a caloric deficit during the week. Did you do the induction phase with plenty of fats initially? Without that, you may not have fat-adapted, meaning eating low-cal all week and then pounding back the pizza on the weekends will have a seriously unpleasant effect.
Hey everybody, I have been reading through this article a little bit and I got the “Anabolic Diet” e-book off ebay. I decided to give it a try and this is my 5th day into it. See I had already been doing a diet that was extremely close to this one. But I was getting 50g of carbs each day rather than the 20g im getting now. I was doing this diet every other day and then eating mostly carbs on the “other” day.
I noticed that after a while when I went for 2 straight days on only about 50g of carbs each day it would feel like I was coming down with the flu. Then when I stopped that and ate carbs it went away. Now that I have been on less than 30g a day of carbs for 5days I had my major crash yesterday. The flu symptoms hit big time, and I even came out of it with a cold. But today I wake up, the symptoms are gone and my nose is just a lil stuffed up still.
So I’m guessing that I went through the metabolic shift. Did anyone else get symptoms like that at sometime during the startup period?
Another carb-up weekend down. Still enjoying it. Took in less this weekend and my weight didnt shoot up as high and I still have a hell of a good workout this morning. Could feel the bloat leaving with all the sweat.
As far as results go, I’m still gaining in strength bit a little every week and can feel the difference in muscle mass. Not sure about fat mass yet, but I’m sure its changing.
I went through the induction about 8-10 weeks ago, and I enjoyed the full spectrum of fats in abundance. I actually didn’t have any problem with the induction because I was able to eat whole food meals and take in protein shakes only when I had no other choice. Whole foods really make things easier for me, since I don’t have to worry about having that hungry feeling in an hour or two afterwards.
AS far as the carb up goes I’ve been thinking I’ve needed to clean up a bit more. I’ve got a good bit of High GI foods and I usually have one or more feeding with that same meal, like waffles. This next weekend I’m going to limit myself to 1 “crap” meal, probably with pizza from Gourmet Nutrition just to see if changing the carb up a big helps. This weekend I didn’t really get sharp in the first 24 hours like I usually do, and that’s why I am a bit concerned. I’ll probably drop some of the fat intake as well, and try to keep it as much a carb/protein only carb up as I can.
OK. Count me in. Well count US in. Me and my GF have officially begun the AD as of today.
You guys are contagious! I admit that I’m a bit “fearful”. I always have been a carb eating machine, and I mean ALWAYS. Even as a youngster I ate tons of carbs and I wasnt drawn to bacon, eggs, meat, cheese and the like. My GF on the other hand, drools just thinking about it!
Usually in all my past low carb tries, I’ve had problems maintaining energy and concentration etc, but low carb for me was equal to low calories too.
Not this time around.
Chalers Poliquin who recommands a 4-5 low carb days to 1 carb up says that 25% dont react well to low carb diets so we’ll see. I’m more confident than not since this is a carb cylcing diet and not a truly low carb one - and I’m full of all the tips and tricks you guys provided. Thanx!
Alot of guys seem to have the PWO question. Here’s what I do:
5-10 grams of bcaa’s
5-10 grams of creatine
10-15 grams of Biotest whey
an “energy” product I like. It’s effervescent, has a ton if potassium in it and it’s cheap. Only a couple grams of carbs.
1/4-1/2 tsp of salt, depending on how hot it is and the size of the pool of sweat I left in the gym.
2 fish oil capsules
I do basically the same thing before, except I omit the creatine. About an hour after the above post beverage, I have another 10-15 grams of Biotest whey, a tablespoon of olive oil and another couple grams of fish oil.
For you non-cheapskates, most all of the above supplements are available here…
Yo guys, I took olive oil for the first time today, and it STUNG my throat and i almost puked. Is this normal? If so, do you guys just say fuck it and drink it? Or do you guys do something to prevent that from happening. I’m sorry that I sound like a girlie man, lol but I can’t fathom taking that shit liberally almost everday.
[quote]DTAlexONE wrote:
Yo guys, I took olive oil for the first time today, and it STUNG my throat and i almost puked. Is this normal? If so, do you guys just say fuck it and drink it? Or do you guys do something to prevent that from happening. I’m sorry that I sound like a girlie man, lol but I can’t fathom taking that shit liberally almost everday. [/quote]
Mine seems to have a bit of a bite as well. I’ll take a spoonful or two most mornings with my shake. I’ll also cook my eggs with a spoonful+ and usually have a few more spoonfuls on my spinach and broccoli salads. So, out of about 800-1000 calories worth of the stuff, that one or two spoonfuls is all that every has a bite.
I find it easier to have a few sips of my shake first or to chug a bit of water right after–though the bite never lasts long. Plus, it could be your brand. Mine is the Sam’s extra virgin olive oil. It could be better because I know there are definite differences in quality for EVOO.
Also, just stinging? No other issues, right? Just wondering, in case you’re allergic. A lot of people seem to have some sort of food allergy.
