Do you guys think it’s possible to drink too much water/liquid in general? I think i’ve put down like at least 5 litres already today. I’d know more precisely, but i’m not sure how many Oz of liquid are in a cup. But this thermos i’ve been drinking out of since this morning is 20oz, and i’ve drank a few of em. Before workout, during workout, after workout… oof.[/quote]
[quote]Madman2 wrote:
suavij wrote:
Question for anybody:
Do you guys think it’s possible to drink too much water/liquid in general? I think i’ve put down like at least 5 litres already today. I’d know more precisely, but i’m not sure how many Oz of liquid are in a cup. But this thermos i’ve been drinking out of since this morning is 20oz, and i’ve drank a few of em. Before workout, during workout, after workout… oof.
If CHO loading is an unhappy experience for you then try the following tips.
Stay far away from MILK. Becasue you are drinking a tonless milk over the week your body decided to quit producing as much lactaze enzyme. this is because lactaze is an enzyme that your body will quit producing because we weren’t originally meant to drink milk, it was an evolution. Plus many of you likely hav milk allergies (not intolerance, yes allergies) that you don;t know about.
Try eating only one healthy CHO source the whole CHO up. Pick rice (white fluffy happy rice of wild or brown) and cook it all up and just eat that for CHO. This will be easy on your GI tract and it has great proteins.
take some “be alive” or other active digestive enzyme befor each meal. this may help prevent gas and flaming asshole conditions associated with CHO ups.
Make your CHO up shorter but more intense. This is wht i do. Two evening CHo ups on Wed and sun night. I really hook into it and over feed my ass off, really helping my leptin.
Put vasoline on your ass hole if you can’t avoid the diarea. or take a bunch of calcium.
[quote]realpeanutbutter wrote:
If CHO loading is an unhappy experience for you then try the following tips.
Stay far away from MILK. Becasue you are drinking a tonless milk over the week your body decided to quit producing as much lactaze enzyme. this is because lactaze is an enzyme that your body will quit producing because we weren’t originally meant to drink milk, it was an evolution. Plus many of you likely hav milk allergies (not intolerance, yes allergies) that you don;t know about.
Try eating only one healthy CHO source the whole CHO up. Pick rice (white fluffy happy rice of wild or brown) and cook it all up and just eat that for CHO. This will be easy on your GI tract and it has great proteins.
take some “be alive” or other active digestive enzyme befor each meal. this may help prevent gas and flaming asshole conditions associated with CHO ups.
Make your CHO up shorter but more intense. This is wht i do. Two evening CHo ups on Wed and sun night. I really hook into it and over feed my ass off, really helping my leptin.
Put vasoline on your ass hole if you can’t avoid the diarea. or take a bunch of calcium.
-chris[/quote]
I love milk on my carbups mainly just PWO though, because of the insulin spike and its my only source of protein on carbups. Were not supposed to have much protein on carbups so I reserve all protein for PWO w/ my skim milk and sugary cereal. You wouldn’t get too much protein from rice would you? btw, chris, your posts are always informative and scholarly…I think you’d sound like a doctor if you had a post that didn’t give reference to the “asshole”.
[quote]suavij wrote:
realpeanutbutter wrote:
Yeah isn’t it the case that you feel great on the no CHO days. and you’ve basically got it down with the posts on this thread. Are you monitoring your fat ratio? can be super important for MMA athletes with regards to inflammation.
-chris
I find that the non-loading days are the greatest. I actually don’t look forward ot the loading day(s). Maybe because I haven’t ironed out what CHO sources work best for me.
Question for anybody:
Do you guys think it’s possible to drink too much water/liquid in general? I think i’ve put down like at least 5 litres already today. I’d know more precisely, but i’m not sure how many Oz of liquid are in a cup. But this thermos i’ve been drinking out of since this morning is 20oz, and i’ve drank a few of em. Before workout, during workout, after workout… oof.[/quote]
suavij bro dont worry about water infact i drink somewhere around 6to7 liters of water everyday .on waking up thats the first thing i drink 1.5 liters of water .in india the ayurveda says that drink a lot of water but not with ,before and after meals maybe u can sip some but not more then a cup because too much water disturbs the digestive fire i tried and it did help in 1960 vince gironda also advocated the same
is it possible for me to crash and be on the anabolic diet for two days? i was on an average of 100g a day for 7 weeks with low fat about 30g a day and about 300g protein a day. its day two and i have a huge headache and feel tired and crappy. but for some reason since eating like this my libido is through the damn roof.
ive never taken viagra and now i believe ill never need it. im planning on taking 10 fish oil pills a day with my diet and two multis a day and bcaas pre and post workouts. since i was on about 2000 calories a day im only eating 3000-3300 calories for the first phase. it seems without the protein and no chicken i can barely eat 200g of protein. do i have to worry much about this?
[quote]trojanman wrote:
is it possible for me to crash and be on the anabolic diet for two days? i was on an average of 100g a day for 7 weeks with low fat about 30g a day and about 300g protein a day. its day two and i have a huge headache and feel tired and crappy. but for some reason since eating like this my libido is through the damn roof.
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When I’m not on the AD I stay around 150g of CHO a day. I usually crash on the second day when I “go back” to AD style eating.
[quote]gnew70 wrote:
I have been on this diet off and on for the past year with some great results, it is really the only diet I have ever used. Two weeks ago I was browsing through my anabolic e-book and notice that Pasquale said that if a person is really interested in bodyshaping it is bet too have a mid-week carb spike, so I did it and just reduced my weekend carbs and the following monday I looked great. Does anyone else have success with a midweek carb spike?[/quote]
I have tried the spike on and off to give a little variety on the diet.
Found it extremely useful especially on high volume training.
For me, that’s the way to go because no matter how i tweak them i always seem to get a little extra fat from 2-day carb-ups
i can only get about 200g-230g of protein a day on this diet. is this fine considering im getting the amount of fat i need while staying under 30g of CHO?
[quote]trojanman wrote:
i can only get about 200g-230g of protein a day on this diet. is this fine considering im getting the amount of fat i need while staying under 30g of CHO?[/quote]
I assume you mean that in order to remain under ‘X’ amount of calories -you can “only” consume the 200-230 grams. Is that correct?
I suppose it would depend on your body weight, bf% and your goals.
200-230 grams of protein would be sufficient for the majority of the population -I would think.
Unless, of course, you weigh in at a ripped 325lbs or something
You have to play with the macros and see how your body reacts.
As a general rule, Dr. Mauro says to decrease calories from fats while increasing cals from proteins if you’re attempting to lean out.
Do the opposite while attempting to gain.
Notice the carbs always (for the most part) stay the same. But of course there’s room for customization there too. Again…it depends on how you -your body, reacts.
If you’re just starting the AD…stick with the program (outlined in the book) until you’re fat-adapted.
Most AD’ers will tell you if you start fooling around too quickly you’ll bottom out and be disappointed in no time.
ya ive lost 12lbs. of fat on the velocity diet before i switched to the AD. i can always increase the chiken i ate to how much i ate on the VD. when i add chicken i get protein but not the energy im looking for. i can tell the difference between meat like skirt steak and london broil and sirloin steaks compared to chicken and tuna.
i stopped the AD because the fat loss stopped and 7 weeks was longer than needed.
i just bought some canola oil and i will be drinking that stuff right out of the bottle most times. compared to olive oil it has 8g of mono fats compared to olive oils 10g of mono fats. next time i will buy some olive oil but i am on a tight budget.
i figured at least i can get quality fat for a good price. can anyone suggest other oils that can be similar to olive?
"stephen’s cholest count came back from the doctors. it was 185, so for all the people who say this diet is bad for people with high choles counts, well, they are wrong. stephen is a perfect example. years and years ago his hit 345. he is on medicine for it now. his doctor said he was the one of the only patients who was healthy.
[quote]derek wrote:
Quick update from one of my client’s husband…
"stephen’s cholest count came back from the doctors. it was 185, so for all the people who say this diet is bad for people with high choles counts, well, they are wrong. stephen is a perfect example. years and years ago his hit 345. he is on medicine for it now. his doctor said he was the one of the only patients who was healthy.
see ya monday"
Nice huh?
derek[/quote]
Glad to hear it. Do you mean they tested, found it was 185, and then put him on meds? Or do you mean he was on AD+meds and it’s 185, and before with whatever diet he was eating, it had been measured as high as 345?
In any case, it must feel good to have a client doing so well, as long as he feels great, of course. :>
[quote]suavij wrote:
Glad to hear it. Do you mean they tested, found it was 185, and then put him on meds? Or do you mean he was on AD+meds and it’s 185, and before with whatever diet he was eating, it had been measured as high as 345?
In any case, it must feel good to have a client doing so well, as long as he feels great, of course. :>[/quote]
It had been found to be 345. They put him on meds and it came down SOME but not much and we know the side effects are always a factor. Now it’s 185 with the AD and I suppose the meds will be reduced or stopped. Which is the whole point of all this, right?
[quote]derek wrote:
suavij wrote:
Glad to hear it. Do you mean they tested, found it was 185, and then put him on meds? Or do you mean he was on AD+meds and it’s 185, and before with whatever diet he was eating, it had been measured as high as 345?
In any case, it must feel good to have a client doing so well, as long as he feels great, of course. :>
It had been found to be 345. They put him on meds and it came down SOME but not much and we know the side effects are always a factor. Now it’s 185 with the AD and I suppose the meds will be reduced or stopped. Which is the whole point of all this, right?
Day 12 and Im rolling along. Ive gained 2 pounds, but Im NOTICABLY trimmer in my mid section. I never realized how much my carb friendly diet left me “puffy” and water filled, especially around the mid section. Im about to break into 8% here BF wise(holding the shoe of course)
Thank god for low carb protein powder. I dunno how the guy back in the day did this diet without it. It has been a godsend. I ugre ALL of you to get your hands on some quality low carb shit, even if its whey from GNC. But buy here if you can afford, quality is much better IMO.
Lots of pro’s going on.
Definitely holding less water retention
Definitely more energy
Sleeping sounder
Cons so far
My only one - My workout recovery rate is slighly less. I know exactly why obviously, Im not inhaling some post workout carbs and such. There are a few ways around it. I could dump in 20 or so carbs POW with my whey, like a banana, and just be carefull the rest of the day.
I can definitely see how one can play with the carbs once they get more experienced. Im eating like a horse just to keep my weight up. I think Im pretty carb resistent(very insulin sensitive, thanks mom/dad for the great genetics). I could see myself easily going to 50 carbs a day and still maintain an anabolic state. But Im gonna be strict with this thing for the first 8 weeks before I play lab rat on myself.
My first carb up is tomorrow. Im craving oatmeal like Ive never…wait, I don’t think Ive ever craved outmeal until now.
[quote]derek wrote:
suavij wrote:
Glad to hear it. Do you mean they tested, found it was 185, and then put him on meds? Or do you mean he was on AD+meds and it’s 185, and before with whatever diet he was eating, it had been measured as high as 345?
In any case, it must feel good to have a client doing so well, as long as he feels great, of course. :>
It had been found to be 345. They put him on meds and it came down SOME but not much and we know the side effects are always a factor. Now it’s 185 with the AD and I suppose the meds will be reduced or stopped. Which is the whole point of all this, right?
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Yeah! I hope i didn’t come across as condescending or anything, I was just a little confused by the wording of the quotation. Definitely a marked improvement.
Myself… I was supposed to carb up for saturday/sunday… Was gonna start saturday morning but i woke up craving soft boiled eggs something huge… so i didn’t end up starting until sunday morning. Wasn’t sure how I felt about starting in the middle of the day. Might carry over until just after monday morning’s workout… not sure yet.
