My Experience On the Anabolic Diet

Nutrition
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ok ill go first.

i was on the anabolic diet for eight weeks.had great results with it.body fat dropped,weight stayed the same.so one can assume it did what it was supposed to do.

put muscle on and lower body fat. i did struggle with some lack of energy after work (5pm) which is wehn i workout.perhaps i was nt eating enough during the day. then my mother came back from florida and tempted me with mac and cheese on a non carb day and i buckled and said the hell with this diet and used the tiredness as an excuse.and i went with a mod carb mod fat clean eating of sorts eating plan.

well the body fat went up 3 %in a week and weight stayed the same.so one can assume that i started losing some muscle after getting of the ad. so needless to say im back on the ad and am in day 8 of the reinduction phase.i feel good again,never overly full and nasty feeling after eating. and i will eat more fat during the day and pre workout to see if that perks up the workouts.thats my tale.

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i made a mistake in my blurb,i acutally lost 8 percent body fat while on the ad not three that i mentioned in the above post.moderator feel free to change it in my inital post,if not this add on will do.thanks

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[quote]TommyGunn wrote:
The chart’s data probably comes from the Holt study, which compared the insulin responses for several common foods - 38 of them. They compared all the foods to white bread, which had a score of 100. Cheese had a score of 45.[/quote]

I think I saw the same chart. From what the chart says, beans have a score of over 100.

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[quote]brunottfn wrote:
how about someone start a F.A.Q thread for us newbies and maybe the vets could jump on and give us some help so this thread does not get jammed up with the same questions over and over.[/quote]

brunottfn,

I think that is a great idea and I would be happy to contribute and help out anyone who’s just starting out on the AD.

I’ll have a dig through the pages of the thread and see what I can pull up. It’s going to take a bit of time but in the mean time feel free to shoot over some questions you may have about the AD. It would be prefered if you’ve already at least read the e-book by Dr. D.

Looks like I have some work to do . . .

Sasha

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thats great sasha …u are a great guy …i have mentioned ur name in all my post because u reaaly have helped me and many …and if u help iam sure …u will do it in a perfect way …as u are a very methodical guy though thats my impression about you …

so i throw u 1 question ok
can u pls help me …by telling how can 1 use glutamine and creatine monohydrate on this diet and will it be a success …and what must be the dosage on weekdays and also on weekends ?

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cool thanks much ,i have the book and read it almost has some similarites to body opus.i will look foward to youre info thanks again

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[quote]raviraj wrote:
thats great sasha …
so i throw u 1 question ok
can u pls help me …by telling how can 1 use glutamine and creatine monohydrate on this diet and will it be a success …and what must be the dosage on weekdays and also on weekends ?[/quote]

Raviraj,

There are many ways to include creatine and glutamine in your diet and you’ll proabably get more argument than agreement regarding their efficacy. However I’m sure you’ll recognize the author below. He (CT) has had good success himself, and with clients he trains, using the following “recipe(s).”
All you can do is see if it works for you.

peace,
-paul

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
mdragon wrote:
Thib

Where can your BCAA complex be found?

I don’t use a “complex” as in a ready-made product. You have to buy the ingredients individually and mix them up yourself.

I use several versions…

The basic one is:

BCAA 10g
Glutamine 10g
Creatine 5g
Glycerol/Glycerine 3 tablespoon

5x per day

The “cheap” one is:

BCAA 5g
Glutamine 5g
Creatine 5g
Glycerol/Glycerine 3 tablespoon

5x per day

The “advanced” one is:

Leucine 5g
BCAA 5g
Glutamine 10g
Taurine 5g
Creatine 5g
Glycerol/Glycerine 3 tablespoon

5x per day[/quote]

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Newbie question:

Official day one for a chick

Hey guys, I “practiced” this diet a week ago, per my trainer, and I like it. Today was day one and my trainer put me on 3200 cals per day, with 2700 cals on Saturday (cardio only) and Sunday is 2500 (rest). Today I only got in around 2500 cals because my protein and fat grams scared the shit out of me.

Fat: 59%…168 grams

Protein: 37%…228 grams

Carbs: 6%…36 grams

My ratios are a tad off, but not horrible I don’t think.

The grams are scaring me, though. Is this entirely too much??

I’m 5’5", 120-125 lbs with 12.5% bf. I do weights m-f, saturday cardio. Goals are to gain 10 lb muscle in 3 months and reduce bf 3-4%

Thanks

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[quote]raviraj wrote:
thats great sasha …u are a great guy …i have mentioned ur name in all my post because u reaaly have helped me and many …and if u help iam sure …u will do it in a perfect way …as u are a very methodical guy though thats my impression about you …

so i throw u 1 question ok
can u pls help me …by telling how can 1 use glutamine and creatine monohydrate on this diet and will it be a success …and what must be the dosage on weekdays and also on weekends ?[/quote]

raviraj,

Thank you very much for the kind words and I’m always happy to help.

As to your questions about the use of glutamine and creatine . . . Let me tackle each independently;

In terms of creatine, I believe that pure monohydrate would work well with the AD. Seeing as we’re not spiking insulin, even PWO, we won’t be using delivery systems that utilise sugars.

With that in mind, I still think PWO is a good time for its use as in my experience, nutrient uptake tends to be a little better right after a workout. Before or with your protein shake is up to you as I’m not entirely sure about the theory that they may compete for absorption.

In terms of glutamine, this one, in my opinion, isn’t as good in terms of a cost/benefit breakdown. Glutamine is the most abundant amino acid in the body and while very useful in catabolic environments (I.e. very strict diets), it tends to be quite an expensive investment for what seems to be little returns.

As we’ve learned with the AD, this lifestyle is very good at sparing protein, even when dieting, so the inclusion of glutamine seems like an expensive way to get some extra aminos into the body. If you were to use it I would recommend using a couple of scoops right before bed to offset nighttime catabolism. It would be especially useful if you’re not consuming a pre-bedtime shake with whey, casein, and fats.

That’s the way I see it breaking down for those two supps. In my opinion, and this is all this post is, I would recommend creatine but shy away from glutamine in favour of a pre-bedtime shake.

Hope that helps.

Sasha

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[quote]rebekkerrb wrote:
Newbie question:

Official day one for a chick

Hey guys, I “practiced” this diet a week ago, per my trainer, and I like it. Today was day one and my trainer put me on 3200 cals per day, with 2700 cals on Saturday (cardio only) and Sunday is 2500 (rest). Today I only got in around 2500 cals because my protein and fat grams scared the shit out of me.

Fat: 59%…168 grams

Protein: 37%…228 grams

Carbs: 6%…36 grams

My ratios are a tad off, but not horrible I don’t think.

The grams are scaring me, though. Is this entirely too much??

I’m 5’5", 120-125 lbs with 12.5% bf. I do weights m-f, saturday cardio. Goals are to gain 10 lb muscle in 3 months and reduce bf 3-4%

Thanks[/quote]

If you start gaining weight and start smoothing out, then I would cut the calories a bit. But if you feel fine and you don’t look like you are gaining fat, then stick with the calories.

Just my .02 :slight_smile:

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[quote]SashaG wrote:

raviraj,

In terms of creatine, I believe that pure monohydrate would work well with the AD. Seeing as we’re not spiking insulin, even PWO, we won’t be using delivery systems that utilise sugars.

With that in mind, I still think PWO is a good time for its use as in my experience, nutrient uptake tends to be a little better right after a workout. Before or with your protein shake is up to you as I’m not entirely sure about the theory that they may compete for absorption.
[/quote]

do we have to have sugar to spike insulin or can cheese and beans work? Also, I read glutamine and creatine should be taken separately b/c they use the same receptors or something so you should take say, 10g glutamine pre and 10g creatine PWO…or should i not believe everything i read?

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4 weeks in and i am really craving ice cream. my mom bought some of this “low carb” ice cream and i want to get everyones opinion.

http://www.schwans.com/product/productDetails.aspx?tb=2&c1=1578&c2=1621&c3=1662&prd=51765

i had some last night and it tastes awesome!! how do the AD veterans feel about something like this…

thanks for any advice!

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[quote]toughcasey wrote:
4 weeks in and i am really craving ice cream. my mom bought some of this “low carb” ice cream and i want to get everyones opinion.

http://www.schwans.com/product/productDetails.aspx?tb=2&c1=1578&c2=1621&c3=1662&prd=51765

i had some last night and it tastes awesome!! how do the AD veterans feel about something like this…

thanks for any advice![/quote]

From what I see, a 1/2 cup of ice cream (which is barely anything) has 16g of carbs.

I, personally, would never eat this during the week. I’ve even cut out string cheese during the week because I felt like, for some reason, it was keeping me from losing weight. I eat lots of other fats (flax seed, organic peanut butter, fish oils), so I’m sure I’ll be okay.

Back on topic, I’d stay away from the ice cream.

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what do you guys do pre workout for energy?im dieing these days at about 4 pm which is about an hour and half preworkout.this was one of the snags i didnt overcome on my first time on the ad,and i d like to conquer this.
also no to the ice cream on low carb days.save it for the weekend.you can wait five days for that crap.!if i gotta wait five days for pizza you can wait for the ice cream!lol

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[quote]HouseOfAtlas wrote:
From what I see, a 1/2 cup of ice cream (which is barely anything) has 16g of carbs.

I, personally, would never eat this during the week. I’ve even cut out string cheese during the week because I felt like, for some reason, it was keeping me from losing weight. I eat lots of other fats (flax seed, organic peanut butter, fish oils), so I’m sure I’ll be okay.

Back on topic, I’d stay away from the ice cream.
[/quote]

well it has 6g fiber and 4g sugar alcohol which makes for 4 net carbs…is this formula applicable for the AD like it is for atkins and other low carb diets?

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Hey everyone,

I’m on day 9 and I was wondering when I will have successfully made the shift. I haven’t crashed yet and only had a minor headache on day 7 or 8. I was just curious as to how I will know if it is safe to carb up on days 13-14. I led a fairly high carb diet previous to this. Carb intake thus far has been well under 30g a day. Any advice would be much appreciated.

Overrev

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[quote]toughcasey wrote:
HouseOfAtlas wrote:
From what I see, a 1/2 cup of ice cream (which is barely anything) has 16g of carbs.

I, personally, would never eat this during the week. I’ve even cut out string cheese during the week because I felt like, for some reason, it was keeping me from losing weight. I eat lots of other fats (flax seed, organic peanut butter, fish oils), so I’m sure I’ll be okay.

Back on topic, I’d stay away from the ice cream.

well it has 6g fiber and 4g sugar alcohol which makes for 4 net carbs…is this formula applicable for the AD like it is for atkins and other low carb diets?
[/quote]

I don’t know how that “sugar” alcohol thing works. I would just stay away from it. Like mikemazz said, just wait! LOL!

Also, don’t forget about hidden carbs in your food.

If you take protein powder during the day, those carbs add up pretty quick. To get 250g+ of protein, it seems like someone would have to have some type of protein powder. My protein powder has 3 grams of carbs/scoop and I have about 5-6 scoops a day total (one per meal). Plus, the carbs from my natural peanut butter the ones from eggs and I’m right at 30g about.

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ive been slamming isopure protein shakes.zero carbs.taste good too

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[quote]mikemazz wrote:
ive been slamming isopure protein shakes.zero carbs.taste good too[/quote]

I almost forgot about that brand. Isn’t that whey isolate? I guess the fat that we take in would slow it down a bit, though.

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how anyone could hate this diet all the foods i was taught not eat i can now eat !!more eggs please more steak!!!sorry guys i just had to say this great.please keep up the good advice thanks again