Day ten and I’m yet to crash? I was on a super high carb diet prior to AD, so should I expect a crash? Maybe I am one of the lucky ones who was destined to be on the AD:) It could be all the quality fats I’m consuming. I am gonna carb up on Friday which is one day early, because I can not eat after noon on Sunday. Damn medical procedures 
So far this diet seems ideal for me. I think I might be a lifer.
Joe
[quote]mozhne wrote:
Charles Atlas wrote:
mdragon wrote:
Careful what you wish for!
I just might get it! It’s easy to be this eager three days in, I know. I am interested too though, from a student’s point of view, what will happen to my body during these next two weeks; what it will feel like etc. We’ll just have to wait and see I guess.
You might not have a rough transition but still be aware what is happening when it happens. 3-4 guys I have lifted with have gotten to the 12-13 day mark and just lost it. You couldn’t convince them that this was what they were looking for. Especially when they were being outbenched by 220 lb. housewives. Once you are past the rough spot, smooth sailing.
Not quite a dbol stack but as close as a man can get without the painful track marks. I think you will be very surprised/pleased with the surge/pump you get after the carb loads. Plus the ability to gain muscle and lose fat and gain strength without hunger, just can’t beat it.
Barry
[/quote]
Thanks Barry, I’ll watch out for it. I’m trying to check back in on this thread every day at least once, to keep the motivation up. This is something I plan to do through day 12. Still on cloud nice though, ate six pieces of bacon and four eggs for breakfast this morning. Breakfast of champions, right?
Well you had to go there already didn’t you? 
AFTER you’ve adapted, say 4-6 weeks, THEN you can try a little something I’ve done before. Some prefer it, some don’t.
OPTION 1:
Wednesday evening:
2 meals. LAST two meals of the day so that you can go to bed later and not consume any more food. Say 3pm and 6pm. Any food consumed after a large insulin spike can increaese all the negatives, so we’ll let you “land” while sleeping. Just get plenty of pro/fat the next morning because you will likely be VERY hungry.
Saturday evening:
2 meals. LAST two meals of the day so that you can go to bed later and not consume any more food. Any food consumed after a large insulin spike can increaese all the negatives.
It’s not as pretty as the AD and certainly not as fun, but it works well for your purposes, MD.
OPTION 2:
I’ve also done an evening meal on Wednesday (200-300g CHO) at around 6pm. Then bed at 10pm.
Then an all day Saturday load. 8am-7pm
Making sure I got about 400-600g CHO.
You’re fat loss won’t be as great, but you’ll still get a bit leaner, but it works fine for getting bigger and stronger.
You must wait until you are fully adapted or you’ll always feel like you’re in metabolic purgatory.
THIS works best with PL’s who have meets and athletes who have competitions. A micro-cycle AD.
As always there are three cardinal rules:
Make no alterations for the first 6 weeks or so. You must adapt fully or it’ll never work right.
You can intelligently try different carb rotations (within reason) but the mirror, calipers, and the poundages are the best feedback. Watch closely
Consume partial day CHO for the last meal(s) of the day. If you did the reverse you’d have elevated insulin for hours while at the same time consuming mucho fat. Not a good combination when micro cycling. Not such an issue on the regular AD
Best,
DH
[quote]mdragon wrote:
Ok experienced ADrs I’ve been toying with the idea of weather it might be beneficial to do a mini carb up during the week and along with the weekend carb up. That way I’ll do Thurs night through Saturday morning and Train Sunday then Train again on Tuesday and do a night time carb up on Wednesday and train again on Thursday. Would this be beneficial? Maybe I’m trying to get too much of a good thing here. I just know my goals are different as a strength trainee than those from a bodybuilder.
I don’t care about the “cuts” I care about absolute strength and athletic ability. I know that I have not even gotten to my first carb up yet but…always thinking of how to improve.[/quote]
Day three and still going strong. Eating beef and eggs like they are going out of style. 8 to go. I’m eating 4000kcals a day and getting them in quite easily. Olive oil helps tremendously in this area. I mix it with my shakes and put it on my salad. Lifting went well today. Back later.
I will be starting this diet next week. I was going to wait till after July 4th but I cant. Question I have is when it comes to beef what level of fat is ok. For years now I’ve been making my burgers with at leat 93% lean beef. Is it ok to go to the 80-85% range of this diet?
Worth noting that Gironda reccomended a carb up meal of “natural carbs” (presumably sweet potatoes, potatoes and a large salad, every three days and was a big fan of food combining - ie carbs and proteins weren’t mixed)
Additionally his favrouite leaning diet was eating twice a day - four eggs and 3/4 lb of steak, he called it “the strong mans meal” - but he was a lot lighter than most of you guys, so that suited his goals. His bulking diet was usually something like
breakfast - eggs and cream
lunch - hamburger patty and salad with cottage cheese
dinner - pound of meat
snack - cheese
He was big on digstive enzymes, anyone use those? I have started using apple cider vinegar.
As a side note, low carbs mean less acne for me too.
Has anyone read or followed the late Dan Duchaine’s “Bodyopus”? According to the book, Dr. D based his High Fat Diet, later to be called the Anabolic Diet, on Duchaine’s. How similar are the two?
It seems that Bodyopus required a much more disciplined carb-up. Also he outlined a training program that corresponded with the diet.
You would train half of the body on Monday and the other half on Tuesday starting with the body parts that needed the most work. This makes sense as you’ll reap the most benefits after the weekend carb-up.
Next he says, prior to your Friday workout, you should eat 25 to 50 grams of carbs to kick yourself out of ketosis.
Then he recommends a 2 hour long, whole body, glycogen depletion workout prior to the carb-up.
The preworkout carbs will switch you back from a fat-burning to a carbohydrate-burning metabolism so that during the upcoming workout you will deplete any remaining glycogen stores in your body. The purpose in doing so, according to Duchaine, is to really prime the body for the carb-up.
The 48 hour carb-up consists of eating every 2 hours (even through the night) beginning with liquid high GI carbs and moving to solid low GI carbs throughout the weekend. Around 6:00 PM Sunday night, he recommends having your last carb meal which should consist of another high GI carb source. Apparently, the high GI carb will cause a rapid rise in blood sugar levels followed by a hypoglycemic crash, supposedly allowing you to re-enter ketosis quicker.
Any thoughts? Does Dr. D recommend a particular training method to be followed with the AD? Any experienced ADers found a really good program to follow? Thanks in advance.
~Jim
Duchaine embellished much. Dr. D was using his diet in the 70’s for his PL training. He didn’t publish it in a popular way. Duchaine rewrote the Rebound diet as BodyOpus. Rebound was Zumpano’s idea. Duchaine was a bit of a thief and an opportunistic tag along. Gironda and Rheo Blair began the idea of a fat/protein diet with targeted hits of carbs for anabolic effect. DiPas reworked it into the AD, which had significant differences. BO didn’t work nearly as well and is a bear to follow because he gets nuts with his timing and sources. Dr. D has commented on Dan’s lack of formal education showing through in the Opus.
For example Duchiane focuses on ketones and ketostix. Dr. D says after a few weeks you are converted and “weaned” off of ketones and are burning fatty acids. The diet is not ketogenic at all, but Dan didn’t understand that. Most don’t. Most of the half-informed people on the site or in your everyday life will assume you are on a ketogenic diet such as Atkins. Then you’ll hear that ketosis is very bad long term (Lyle MacDonald) and they’ll never pay attention to the words out of Dr. D’s mouth. IT IS NOT A KETO DIET. DiPas calls it simply a cyclical diet. Ketosis is not a good thing and should be a transitory state before you take off the training wheels and really get going. In short, avoid BO. Or try it out and see it’s shortfalls firsthand.
Best,
DH
PS. My favorite other “argument” against the AD. “Your brain needs carbs!” Wrong. I’ll save that for another day on the thread. It’s time for protein powder, almonds, and some slim jims.
[quote]Warrior Spirit wrote:
Has anyone read or followed the late Dan Duchaine’s “Bodyopus”? According to the book, Dr. D based his High Fat Diet, later to be called the Anabolic Diet, on Duchaine’s. How similar are the two?
It seems that Bodyopus required a much more disciplined carb-up. Also he outlined a training program that corresponded with the diet.
You would train half of the body on Monday and the other half on Tuesday starting with the body parts that needed the most work. This makes sense as you’ll reap the most benefits after the weekend carb-up.
Next he says, prior to your Friday workout, you should eat 25 to 50 grams of carbs to kick yourself out of ketosis.
Then he recommends a 2 hour long, whole body, glycogen depletion workout prior to the carb-up.
The preworkout carbs will switch you back from a fat-burning to a carbohydrate-burning metabolism so that during the upcoming workout you will deplete any remaining glycogen stores in your body. The purpose in doing so, according to Duchaine, is to really prime the body for the carb-up.
The 48 hour carb-up consists of eating every 2 hours (even through the night) beginning with liquid high GI carbs and moving to solid low GI carbs throughout the weekend. Around 6:00 PM Sunday night, he recommends having your last carb meal which should consist of another high GI carb source. Apparently, the high GI carb will cause a rapid rise in blood sugar levels followed by a hypoglycemic crash, supposedly allowing you to re-enter ketosis quicker.
Any thoughts? Does Dr. D recommend a particular training method to be followed with the AD? Any experienced ADers found a really good program to follow? Thanks in advance.
~Jim[/quote]
From “Eat Like a Man” by Chris Shugart.
Although it’s been around longer than BodyOpus, you may not know much about Dr. Mauro DiPasquale’s Anabolic diet. The general public is really clueless. This is primarily because DiPasquale didn’t design it for them. You see, the good doctor is one of us. He’s not only a gifted physician, he’s a former world champion powerlifter who’s set records in five different weight classes. He’s held top positions in several bodybuilding, powerlifting and athletic organizations and still squats over 600 pounds. He’s written several books on steroids and their uses in sports, but he’s written the book on using food to mimic the anabolic effects of steroids. This came about partially because the World Bodybuilding Federation (now disbanded) wanted their athletes to get clean yet maintain their muscle mass and low bodyfat percentages. Dr. DiPasquale refined the Anabolic diet to help them do this. Could the effects of anabolic steroids be reproduced through the manipulation of diet? The answer, DiPasquale decided, was yes.
Most bodybuilders know Dr. Mauro DiPasquale as the man who developed the “Anabolic Diet.” When this high-protein, high-fat, low-carbohydrate concept was released, it was a radical departure from the conventional belief systems and, consequently, it was ridiculed by a host of detractors. Since then, Dr. DiPasquale’s principles have proven themselves to indeed be correct, and those very principles have inspired countless imitations. What many bodybuilders may not know is that Mauro is also a world class championship powerlifter. He was the world champion in 1976 and again at the World Games in 1981. In his native land of Canada, he has dominated the competition for over 20 years, winning the overall championship eight times, the Pan American championship twice, and the North American Powerlifting championship twice. He is also the only Canadian to total ten times his bodyweight in two separate weight classes!
Dr. DiPasquale’s formal education includes a medical degree in nutrition and sports medicine with honors in biological science. He majored in molecular biochemistry and has authored several prestigious books. Among his written works are the groundbreaking publications “Beyond Anabolic Steroids” and “Anabolic Steroid Side Effects, Fact, Fiction and Treatment.” Also noteworthy is Dr. DiPasquale’s extensive experience pertaining to athletic injuries and sports related disabilities. And believe it or not, this just scratches the surface of the man’s credentials.
Needless to say, when it comes to expert qualifications, there aren’t too many people who are more credible than Mauro DiPasquale. When Mauro speaks, people listen?which is exactly what’s been happening on his latest world tour where he’s been conducting seminars on the subject of training, dieting, supplementation and all things related to bodybuilding and powerlifting. People are willing to pay top dollar for Mauro’s adept advice, as evidenced by the sold-out attendance wherever he appears. I was fortunate to steal some time from the busy doctor and get some insights into a variety of bodybuilding related topics. Here, presented to Testosterone readers, free of charge, is the man who may very well be the foremost authority on nutrition for improved athletic performance.
Mauro DiPasquale is about to speak. It’s time to listen.
I am on day 9 and I am doing well, my question is about extending the wait until my first carb up such as 15 or 16 days at under 30g Carbs. I am recovering from knee surgery and I am partial weight bearing for another 3 weeks. This being the situation I am limited in the movements that I can do in the gym. I still train around 4 times a week but only 2-4 lifts ie 2 push and 2 pull in antagonistic planes. I am limiting my exercises so that I don’t overtrain and my time is limited since I need rides to the gym (surgery on R knee). I am basically doing 4 sets of 6 or the reverse per exercise.
Due to this I am afraid that I am not full depleating my body of glycogen like I would if I could do deads, squats and so on. I felt like I had a minor crash around day 5 and 6 but I am pretty good now. I also have only lost a little weight. Let me know what you think I appreciate any guidance.
And the big crescendo:
Now you’re beginning your education as a bodybuilder. DiPasquale style, boys.
NM: You’d think that it would make sense to have protein available while under stress, but a lot of people look at protein just for repair when resting. The thinking is that only carbs and fat are used during exercise.
MD: That’s bullshit! The whole business about gluconeogenesis and ketosis is very mixed up. A lot of these so-called “experts” don’t really have their facts straight. They read a couple of studies, do a test or two, and draw a conclusion. I don’t know everything, but when I research something, I like to do as many studies as possible. In my book on proteins and amino acids, I had over 1,700 references. Even that only skims the surface, but at least it narrows down the variables. My new book should have over 2,100 references! This is the way to approach the effectiveness of a product or a diet plan?not to go off halfcocked. I’m working on several formulations that I believe will be effective for several sports-related applications. I may put out my own line of sports supplements called “Coaching Solutions” which will only be products that I believe in. I’m also thinking about putting out an “Anabolic Diet” supplement line. They may not work for everyone, but all I can say is that “this is the best that I can do?this is what I take.”
NM: That was the principle which Tim and TC used when putting together the Biotest line. Tell me, you were one of the first proponents of the high-fat/low-carb diet. What’s the main difference between the Anabolic Diet that you developed and the presently popular Ketogenic Diet?
MD: When I wrote the Anabolic Diet, I wasn’t trying to present an academic hypothesis. I wanted to write about something that would work. These days, there seems to be a lot of emphasis on ketosis, but it’s all pretty useless. Staying in a ketogenic state basically means that you haven’t adapted to the diet. If ketones are being excreted in the urine (which is how you determine ketosis) by using “keto-sticks,” then you’re not utilizing ketones for energy very efficiently. Someone who is optimally using fat for fuel should not have ketones in their urine.
NM: Whoa, let me back this up for a second. So what you’re saying is, if one were efficiently using ketones for energy and lipolysis on a carb depleted diet…it shouldn’t produce a state of ketosis?
MD: That’s correct. If you’ve adapted fully to the diet.
NM: So it’s not preferable to be in ketosis if the objective is fat loss?
MD: That’s right. This is where I differ from everybody else and why the Anabolic Diet is so effective where others are not. Ketosis is very catabolic! First of all, the Anabolic Diet keeps you at 30 grams of carbs a day, five days a week. That keeps you out of ketosis, but the body begins to adapt to using fat for fuel. On the weekend, you can eat as many carbs as you like. That’s the anabolic phase, but the body is still in a fatburning mode. Once there’s a spillover of carb calories to fat storage, after no more than 48 hours, you go back to 30 carbohydrate grams a day. Basically, this is meant to be a diet that can be followed easily. Who wants to wake up at night to eat or spend each hour of the day watching exactly how many calories you eat? What’s interesting is that I’ve found that triglyceride levels rise on the days when high carbs are ingested.
NM: That pretty much takes the theory of only saturated fats being the culprit to increasing triglyceride levels and bites it right in the ass, doesn’t it?
MD: Exactly! Interesting conclusion, isn’t it? It’s made me go back and do some rewrites in my book. It’s fascinating?but I won’t lie to you and tell you that I have an explanation for it. Maybe as you start to carb up, the body will stop burning fat and starts depending on all of those carbs coming in, so it makes sense that if your body is still in a fatburning mode at first, it’s still accumulating intramuscular triglycerides. Then, when you stop using them, they begin to increase. I don’t know. It’s just a theory. Another advantage of the Anabolic Diet is that you don’t have to worry about getting enough essential fatty acids. There’s no need to supplement. You’ll get plenty from the diet itself. I don’t make a distinction between saturated and unsaturated, essential or nonessential fats.
NM: What about saturated fats raising LDL?
MD: If you’re a bodybuilder trying to achieve a consistently low body fat, I don’t see much of a difference, and I’ve done the tests to prove it. But everyone should be tested for their enzymatic peculiarities. Another advantage of saturated fat is that it’s been shown to increase endogenous levels of testosterone. Red meat is an important part of the Anabolic Diet. Now, people have drawn conclusions between Dan Duchaine’s BodyOpus Diet and the Anabolic Diet. There are similarities, but the Anabolic Diet was written long before Dan’s book. I never read his Ultimate Dieting Handbook.
NM: That had a similar approach. Cut carbs until you enter ketosis and then gorge on Fruit Loops and sugar frosted Alpha-Bits. I believe it was a ten-day diet plan. It made sense, but whether or not Dan actually followed it himself is another story altogether.
MD: Don’t get me wrong, I think that Dan’s had a lot of great ideas. I know that he gets very particular in his applications. You also don’t have to participate in something to be good at it, or at least to know what you’re talking about. But I take less of an “ivory tower” approach. I’m more in the trenches. Everything that I’ve written about, I’ve had firsthand experience with. I’ve gotten down to 3% body fat. That was too light, but it allowed me to win a title in the 132-pound weight class. I’ve set records in five different weight classes.
I expected that first line DH. 
Hey man I’m an ideas guy… Ha!
I’ll wait 6 weeks for sure! Thank you for the advice and the help. I’m saving all the highlights of this thread in a word document! Dude you should write your own damn book. Something like a documentary/tips book on the AD. Talk to the good doctor and see if he would support it.
[quote]Disc Hoss wrote:
Well you had to go there already didn’t you?
AFTER you’ve adapted, say 4-6 weeks, THEN you can try a little something I’ve done before. Some prefer it, some don’t.
OPTION 1:
Wednesday evening:
2 meals. LAST two meals of the day so that you can go to bed later and not consume any more food. Say 3pm and 6pm. Any food consumed after a large insulin spike can increaese all the negatives, so we’ll let you “land” while sleeping. Just get plenty of pro/fat the next morning because you will likely be VERY hungry.
Saturday evening:
2 meals. LAST two meals of the day so that you can go to bed later and not consume any more food. Any food consumed after a large insulin spike can increaese all the negatives.
It’s not as pretty as the AD and certainly not as fun, but it works well for your purposes, MD.
OPTION 2:
I’ve also done an evening meal on Wednesday (200-300g CHO) at around 6pm. Then bed at 10pm.
Then an all day Saturday load. 8am-7pm
Making sure I got about 400-600g CHO.
You’re fat loss won’t be as great, but you’ll still get a bit leaner, but it works fine for getting bigger and stronger.
You must wait until you are fully adapted or you’ll always feel like you’re in metabolic purgatory.
THIS works best with PL’s who have meets and athletes who have competitions. A micro-cycle AD.
As always there are three cardinal rules:
Make no alterations for the first 6 weeks or so. You must adapt fully or it’ll never work right.
You can intelligently try different carb rotations (within reason) but the mirror, calipers, and the poundages are the best feedback. Watch closely
Consume partial day CHO for the last meal(s) of the day. If you did the reverse you’d have elevated insulin for hours while at the same time consuming mucho fat. Not a good combination when micro cycling. Not such an issue on the regular AD
Best,
DH
mdragon wrote:
Ok experienced ADrs I’ve been toying with the idea of weather it might be beneficial to do a mini carb up during the week and along with the weekend carb up. That way I’ll do Thurs night through Saturday morning and Train Sunday then Train again on Tuesday and do a night time carb up on Wednesday and train again on Thursday. Would this be beneficial? Maybe I’m trying to get too much of a good thing here. I just know my goals are different as a strength trainee than those from a bodybuilder.
I don’t care about the “cuts” I care about absolute strength and athletic ability. I know that I have not even gotten to my first carb up yet but…always thinking of how to improve.
[/quote]
I’m planning on giving this diet a shot in order to bulk up and gain more lean muscle mass.
i was just wondering whether it would be ok to have some veggies with the lunch and dinner meals.
Does this violate the AD rules?
Which are the best low-carb veggies you recommend for this diet, since I want to ingest the maximum greens possible without surpassing the 30g carb barrier.
Also, does Metamucil count as carbs? I think I might have problems with bowel regularity (I already have the tendency to get constipated on “normal” diets) on such a high protein + low fiber diet…
Thanx for your responses btw !
[quote]chirag wrote:
I’m planning on giving this diet a shot in order to bulk up and gain more lean muscle mass.
i was just wondering whether it would be ok to have some veggies with the lunch and dinner meals.[/quote]
–No, as long as you follow what I write below…
[quote]
Does this violate the AD rules?
Which are the best low-carb veggies you recommend for this diet, since I want to ingest the maximum greens possible without surpassing the 30g carb barrier.[/quote]
–Spinach, spinach, spinach! Lettuce, the greener the better, some broccoli, tomato, garlic, some onion, and cucumbers…I’d stay away from corn, potatos, and peas.
[quote]
Also, does Metamucil count as carbs? I think I might have problems with bowel regularity (I already have the tendency to get constipated on “normal” diets) on such a high protein + low fiber diet…[/quote]
–Forget Metamucil. Start using Flax seeds or Flaxseed meal. I’m sure you’ve read the benefits of flax oil on this site…the seedmeal gives you the benifits of the EFA’s but the added bonus of a good deal of fiber. Add a few tbs to your shakes and, trust me, you’ll have no problems with regularity.
[quote]
Thanx for your responses btw ![/quote]
[quote]chirag wrote:
I’m planning on giving this diet a shot in order to bulk up and gain more lean muscle mass.
i was just wondering whether it would be ok to have some veggies with the lunch and dinner meals.
Does this violate the AD rules?
Which are the best low-carb veggies you recommend for this diet, since I want to ingest the maximum greens possible without surpassing the 30g carb barrier.
Also, does Metamucil count as carbs? I think I might have problems with bowel regularity (I already have the tendency to get constipated on “normal” diets) on such a high protein + low fiber diet…
Thanx for your responses btw ![/quote]
Broccoli and Green beans are good but be careful as both have roughly 8 grams per cup. Lettuce is good and celery. The constipation is not what you would think on this diet. I eat cheese like it’s going out of style and don’t have problems.
Barry
[quote]wtagye wrote:
I am on day 9 and I am doing well, my question is about extending the wait until my first carb up such as 15 or 16 days at under 30g Carbs. I am recovering from knee surgery and I am partial weight bearing for another 3 weeks. This being the situation I am limited in the movements that I can do in the gym. I still train around 4 times a week but only 2-4 lifts ie 2 push and 2 pull in antagonistic planes. I am limiting my exercises so that I don’t overtrain and my time is limited since I need rides to the gym (surgery on R knee). I am basically doing 4 sets of 6 or the reverse per exercise.
Due to this I am afraid that I am not full depleating my body of glycogen like I would if I could do deads, squats and so on. I felt like I had a minor crash around day 5 and 6 but I am pretty good now. I also have only lost a little weight. Let me know what you think I appreciate any guidance.
[/quote]
Just follow the plan as laid out. I’m pretty sure the glycogen depletion is a chemical reaction your body has to the low carbs, exercise is not the main force behind the depletion. Stick with it. You won’t notice much after only 9 days. Read Hoss’s posts about what Dr.D says. It gives a real clear picture of what this is all about.
Barry
[quote]Disc Hoss wrote:
If ketones are being excreted in the urine (which is how you determine ketosis) by using “keto-sticks,” then you’re not utilizing ketones for energy very efficiently. Someone who is optimally using fat for fuel should not have ketones in their urine.
NM: Whoa, let me back this up for a second. So what you’re saying is, if one were efficiently using ketones for energy and lipolysis on a carb depleted diet…it shouldn’t produce a state of ketosis?
MD: That’s correct. If you’ve adapted fully to the diet.
[/quote]
Actually Duchaine says the same thing in BodyOpus … he said the ketostix will probably only show you are in ketosis for the first few days. After that, he said, you will be burning most or all of the ketones for fuel.
My point about BO was not to say its a better plan than AD. I was just wondering if any of the ideas were useful, like timing your training around your food intake, etc.
[quote]milkmeasurer wrote:
I will be starting this diet next week. I was going to wait till after July 4th but I cant. Question I have is when it comes to beef what level of fat is ok. For years now I’ve been making my burgers with at leat 93% lean beef. Is it ok to go to the 80-85% range of this diet?[/quote]
I’ve been eating the ground beef marked “Lean”, which in my neck of the woods means around 20% fat, (80-85% lean).This diet would be hard for me to afford if we had to eat only extra lean or extra extra lean beef. I have been assuming that this is alright, considering the good Dr. D recommends that we eat sausage, spam, bacon, etc. These meats have a good deal more fat by weight than 20%. That being said, I’ve also been eating at least 1/4C of good quality olive oil and at least 2g of EPA/DHA per day.
What say the AD vets on this topic? Should we even worry about the fat content of our beef?
[quote]Charles Atlas wrote:
milkmeasurer wrote:
I will be starting this diet next week. I was going to wait till after July 4th but I cant. Question I have is when it comes to beef what level of fat is ok. For years now I’ve been making my burgers with at leat 93% lean beef. Is it ok to go to the 80-85% range of this diet?
I’ve been eating the ground beef marked “Lean”, which in my neck of the woods means around 20% fat, (80-85% lean).This diet would be hard for me to afford if we had to eat only extra lean or extra extra lean beef. I have been assuming that this is alright, considering the good Dr. D recommends that we eat sausage, spam, bacon, etc. These meats have a good deal more fat by weight than 20%. That being said, I’ve also been eating at least 1/4C of good quality olive oil and at least 2g of EPA/DHA per day.
What say the AD vets on this topic? Should we even worry about the fat content of our beef?[/quote]
Yea don’t worry about the fat content. You basically have to throw everything you have heard about Low fat.