I must say I couldn’t agree more about the family quote. This is by far the best thread I’ve ever seen and I’ve had PMs from folks like DH offering help throughout.
A really good diet planning tool is fitday.com. It has most of the basics with the ability to add custom foods. Check it out at (it’s free):
Finally, on the results question. I’ve noticed improvements in my physique but it’s hard to determine what’s water and what’s fat. After getting past the first couple of weeks I’ve also seen improvements in energy levels, alertness and sleep. All fantastic by-products of this lifestyle.
A small tip for difficult situations (like the one Derek had in the hospital) or for those who spend too much time on the road:
NUTS. All kinds of them. They’re relatively cheap, they don’t spoil, they don’t need fridge, they’re delicious and they have an excellent fat profile. No forks, no greasy hands, no plates or tupperware. Just made for fast outdoor meals.
[quote]g.anagno wrote:
A small tip for difficult situations (like the one Derek had in the hospital) or for those who spend too much time on the road:
NUTS. All kinds of them. They’re relatively cheap, they don’t spoil, they don’t need fridge, they’re delicious and they have an excellent fat profile. No forks, no greasy hands, no plates or tupperware. Just made for fast outdoor meals.
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Exactly right. Although the Hospital cafe’ had bags of nuts in the vending machines, one could bag up some walnuts and almonds and bring them along. On that note, Ocean State Job Lot (Discount store in the New England area) has walnuts VERY cheap. An $8.00 bag from the grocery store can be had for $3.00 at OSJL every week.
I’m relatively new to all this… I don’t know what shape the majority of you are in, so I thought I’d pose this question from the “Fat Bastard” perspective. I’m about 340 lbs. I need to drop about 100 lbs. I’m finding it very hard to take in 5000+ calories, like fitday says. If I eat below maintenance calories, will I still be able to drop fat and weight until I get to my goal?
[quote]TarHeelMan wrote:
I’m relatively new to all this… I don’t know what shape the majority of you are in, so I thought I’d pose this question from the “Fat Bastard” perspective. I’m about 340 lbs. I need to drop about 100 lbs. I’m finding it very hard to take in 5000+ calories, like fitday says. If I eat below maintenance calories, will I still be able to drop fat and weight until I get to my goal? [/quote]
Hey TH!
Welcome aboard!!
Have you seen a doctor recently?
I mean are you in pretty good health generally speaking?
I don’t think I’d be ‘out on a limb’ to say that’s probably the first thing some of the veterans of this diet are going to suggest.
But as far as your maintenance level…you don’t really WANT to maintain…right? You want to lose. So I wouldn’t be too all fired up about eating more than you’re comfortable with just to hit some magical number.
If you feel full…you’re full, and that’s a good thing!
Just curious how many people went 12 days before their first carb up and how many people went 5 days before their first carb up. I’m not trying to make this a “p1ssing” match between people(excuse my language), but just wondering who went for 5 and who went for 12?
For those that went 5, did you still see good results. I will end up going for 13 days, but my gf just started the AD today and its hitting her pretty hard only have one day. Her diet was pretty inconsistant before with mostly carbs and low-medium protein, so I’m guessing that is why.
Dr. Mauro, in his book, said that people that went for 5 days had good results, but he says to try and make it 12 days.
I’ve done only the 5 day. I’m actually on day one of 12 right now due to my new baby coming and it is the FIRST time for me doing the 12/2. I’ll post results to see how I fare.
ima do a 11 day/36 hour carb up. the reason for the 11 days is b/c i want to carb up on saturday and sunday, instead of sunday/monday. i dont think one day will hurt me at all.
also, im going to drop cals down 500 b/c i havent seen ANY changes in body comp. the past 6 days. iv been doing 15 minutes of HIIT on a bike after working out, so ill drop my calories from ~4000 a day to ~ 3500 a day, and see how that goes.
also, i could feel my body wearing out earlier in the gym tonight, meaning my body is going to crash soon! i cant wait! i was done after only 3 sets of atg squats with 225,275, and 315 tonight, usually i can get up to 365 no problem. plus im sweating more. i remember when i was on the velocity diet i was tired more and sweated a lot more due to lack of/low carbs. this is exciting!
[quote]Ballin4Christ32 wrote:
ima do a 11 day/36 hour carb up. the reason for the 11 days is b/c i want to carb up on saturday and sunday, instead of sunday/monday. i dont think one day will hurt me at all.
also, im going to drop cals down 500 b/c i havent seen ANY changes in body comp. the past 6 days. iv been doing 15 minutes of HIIT on a bike after working out, so ill drop my calories from ~4000 a day to ~ 3500 a day, and see how that goes. [/quote]
Don’t play with calories during the break in phase. Your goal right now is adaptation and not body comp changes.
All you new guys have to realize this is a lifestyle and only through this perspective you can have results.
The more cals you get in your 12 day intro phase, the easier the transition will be. I wouldn’t value much any body comp change during the first month (i don’t say there won’t be any). Your body needs time to adapt to this new way of eating.
If you need results within six days you’d better follow something like the Velocity Diet and think again about the AD after your body gives up from feeding only with protein powder and flax seed oil.
G.anagno is right. Follow the diet as strictly as you possibly can for the first few months. As was mentioned quite a few times in this thread already, you need to go through the 12-day induction phase to shift your body from CHO burning to fat burning. And remember, you won’t be fully fat adapted for at least a couple of months on the diet.
Jumping into a 5/2 day eating cycle will most likely leave you jumping in and out of ketosis which is not the objective. The carb-ups serve a unique purpose as well . . . it’s not just a reward mechanism.
I highly suggest sticking to the full 12-day induction to ensure you prime your body to make the transition. It’s not the most fun two weeks you’ll ever have but it gets much better afterwards. Also, body composition and performance are not the goal in the immediate term. You’ll see results soon enough.
Also, keep the fat cals up which will help with the energy levels.
[quote]TarHeelMan wrote:
I’m relatively new to all this… I don’t know what shape the majority of you are in, so I thought I’d pose this question from the “Fat Bastard” perspective. I’m about 340 lbs. I need to drop about 100 lbs. I’m finding it very hard to take in 5000+ calories, like fitday says. If I eat below maintenance calories, will I still be able to drop fat and weight until I get to my goal? [/quote]
What you may want to consider doing is calculate your calorie requirements based on your lean mass rather than your current weight and then adjust the calories based on where you’re at now and your energy levels. That’s basically what I did and it’s been working great for me.
I started in August at nearly 330 and have stripped off 63lbs so far and have rebuilt quite a bit of the muscle I’d lost since my football days.
does anyone see a problem taking HOT-ROX extreme during the first week of this diet?
also, i understand the concept behind the body crashing, but what does this actually feel like? im on day four and i seem slightly lethargic and my endurance is going down during workouts. how long until this reverses?
[quote]toughcasey wrote:
does anyone see a problem taking HOT-ROX extreme during the first week of this diet?
also, i understand the concept behind the body crashing, but what does this actually feel like? im on day four and i seem slightly lethargic and my endurance is going down during workouts. how long until this reverses? [/quote]
When I crashed I sat in a chair for four hours without moving,then dragged myself to bed and slept for 12 hours.The next morning I was fine.
[quote]Wolverin wrote:
When I crashed I sat in a chair for four hours without moving,then dragged myself to bed and slept for 12 hours.The next morning I was fine.
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wow i cant wait for this haha…i have already started losing fat though, i have one of those body monitor scales, not accurate but consistent for sure, and its dropped significantly in the past 4 days. gonna be interesting to see if i can make it on this diet.
[quote]toughcasey wrote:
does anyone see a problem taking HOT-ROX extreme during the first week of this diet?
also, i understand the concept behind the body crashing, but what does this actually feel like? im on day four and i seem slightly lethargic and my endurance is going down during workouts. how long until this reverses? [/quote]
Personally, I like to hold off on supplements like HOT-ROX until a few months in, when things slow down. However, if you don’t have much to lose, I don’t see any problem taking it during the first week.
