[quote]thegymismyshrink wrote:
Eat more and train much harder. My mistress has bigger traps and lats.[/quote]
I’m going to have to steal this one.
While I dont think this will resonate well with most of the active posters, I know exactly what you THINK you mean. I have seen a LOT of well intentioned indian kids (not saying youre one of these but you did say your a white_indian hybrid IIRC) at American gyms with the same exact structure and similar builds and lifts to you despite years of doing things “right-ish”.
The common points:
Training hard for the mot part but winging it for the most part with nutrition, i.e. getting in a protein shake here and there with “some” meat at every meal.
Obsession with looking “lean and athletic” instead of “big and bodybuilderlike”.
They struggled to gain size/strength and then to get lean.
The fact is - the WORSE your frame and structure and fat storage patterns are (as is clearly your case) the MORE your motivation and dedication to lifting nutrition and supplementation will have to resemble that of a competitive bodybuilder for you to even come close to looking “lean and athletic”.
Someone with decent genetics would have a lot more leeway and can look muscular with a routine of calisthenics and soccer and regular guy nutrition.
[quote]Judas wrote:
I have shit genetics.
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you said
[My arms about about 15.5 inches around flexed ] at your height that skinny
[Does anyone have any fat loss diet links they could help me with? diets they have tried and that I didn’t mention that I could look into and give a go?]
your problem cutting before you have something to cut to
You look like you lift. People are being fucktards for whatever reason. Perhaps you should have made more progress by now is what they are getting at.
i see people who work manual labor jobs
i see people that play street level basketball
they dont lift
they dont try to look like they lift
when you look better than they do
i will say you look like you lift
Thought i would add my 2 cents…
There can be a million things going on when your body just doesn’t want to burn through fat, also the whole “losing muscle mass” thing is something to look at as well.
Have you ever had your bloods checked? i personally work with many people in this situation and it commonly comes down to something like Adrenal Fatigue… some people will say its a load of balls but i have seen addressing the issue work countless times before.
What i think could be happening is that your body is producing too much cordisol which is putting your body under stress and making it harder to lose body fat, elevated cordisol levels also result in muscle break down because the cordisol hormone is catabolic.
I could be wrong, i would always say sort your training and nutrition out first but if you have exhausted all them options maybe this is something to look at?
Cheers
[quote]jeremielemauvais wrote:
While I dont think this will resonate well with most of the active posters, I know exactly what you THINK you mean. I have seen a LOT of well intentioned indian kids (not saying youre one of these but you did say your a white_indian hybrid IIRC) at American gyms with the same exact structure and similar builds and lifts to you despite years of doing things “right-ish”.
The common points:
Training hard for the mot part but winging it for the most part with nutrition, i.e. getting in a protein shake here and there with “some” meat at every meal.
Obsession with looking “lean and athletic” instead of “big and bodybuilderlike”.
They struggled to gain size/strength and then to get lean.
The fact is - the WORSE your frame and structure and fat storage patterns are (as is clearly your case) the MORE your motivation and dedication to lifting nutrition and supplementation will have to resemble that of a competitive bodybuilder for you to even come close to looking “lean and athletic”.
Someone with decent genetics would have a lot more leeway and can look muscular with a routine of calisthenics and soccer and regular guy nutrition.
[quote]Judas wrote:
I have shit genetics.
[/quote]
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Good post. You hit the nail on the head with this one! Wish I was full white Indian genes are fucked. Least im big as fuck for a Indian…
[quote]Jordz wrote:
Thought i would add my 2 cents…
There can be a million things going on when your body just doesn’t want to burn through fat, also the whole “losing muscle mass” thing is something to look at as well.
Have you ever had your bloods checked? i personally work with many people in this situation and it commonly comes down to something like Adrenal Fatigue… some people will say its a load of balls but i have seen addressing the issue work countless times before.
What i think could be happening is that your body is producing too much cordisol which is putting your body under stress and making it harder to lose body fat, elevated cordisol levels also result in muscle break down because the cordisol hormone is catabolic.
I could be wrong, i would always say sort your training and nutrition out first but if you have exhausted all them options maybe this is something to look at?
Cheers[/quote]
Thanks for the input. What can be done about adrenal fatigue? I have had a pretty violent and stressful life. I have been diagnosed with PTSD. You might be on to something with this?
cheers
[quote]Judas wrote:
[quote]Jordz wrote:
Thought i would add my 2 cents…
There can be a million things going on when your body just doesn’t want to burn through fat, also the whole “losing muscle mass” thing is something to look at as well.
Have you ever had your bloods checked? i personally work with many people in this situation and it commonly comes down to something like Adrenal Fatigue… some people will say its a load of balls but i have seen addressing the issue work countless times before.
What i think could be happening is that your body is producing too much cordisol which is putting your body under stress and making it harder to lose body fat, elevated cordisol levels also result in muscle break down because the cordisol hormone is catabolic.
I could be wrong, i would always say sort your training and nutrition out first but if you have exhausted all them options maybe this is something to look at?
Cheers[/quote]
Thanks for the input. What can be done about adrenal fatigue? I have had a pretty violent and stressful life. I have been diagnosed with PTSD. You might be on to something with this?
cheers[/quote]
No Problem, always happy go give a little input.
Adrenal Fatigue is one of them things that takes a while to try get under control, definatally if you have PTSD this is something that could be causing problems…
The key is to try and control/reduce your stress in every aspect of your life… any stimulant like per-workout, coffee energy drinks, alcohol etc can make things a lot worse also just general daily stresses, etc
If you think this could be the problem i would go see someone that is a specialist in dealing with Adrenal Fatigue, its kind of a package thing, making sure your nutrition is good and balanced, your sleeping well, regularly exercising etc
It may be a long road ahead but if you can nail it down now then things will start to get better.
In my opinion there is only so much “train harder”, “eat better” that your body can handle and if you have truly exhausted them options then go look into this.
[quote]Jordz wrote:
[quote]Judas wrote:
[quote]Jordz wrote:
Thought i would add my 2 cents…
There can be a million things going on when your body just doesn’t want to burn through fat, also the whole “losing muscle mass” thing is something to look at as well.
Have you ever had your bloods checked? i personally work with many people in this situation and it commonly comes down to something like Adrenal Fatigue… some people will say its a load of balls but i have seen addressing the issue work countless times before.
What i think could be happening is that your body is producing too much cordisol which is putting your body under stress and making it harder to lose body fat, elevated cordisol levels also result in muscle break down because the cordisol hormone is catabolic.
I could be wrong, i would always say sort your training and nutrition out first but if you have exhausted all them options maybe this is something to look at?
Cheers[/quote]
Thanks for the input. What can be done about adrenal fatigue? I have had a pretty violent and stressful life. I have been diagnosed with PTSD. You might be on to something with this?
cheers[/quote]
No Problem, always happy go give a little input.
Adrenal Fatigue is one of them things that takes a while to try get under control, definatally if you have PTSD this is something that could be causing problems…
The key is to try and control/reduce your stress in every aspect of your life… any stimulant like per-workout, coffee energy drinks, alcohol etc can make things a lot worse also just general daily stresses, etc
If you think this could be the problem i would go see someone that is a specialist in dealing with Adrenal Fatigue, its kind of a package thing, making sure your nutrition is good and balanced, your sleeping well, regularly exercising etc
It may be a long road ahead but if you can nail it down now then things will start to get better.
In my opinion there is only so much “train harder”, “eat better” that your body can handle and if you have truly exhausted them options then go look into this.[/quote]
Thanks
Ill start researching into it today.