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[quote]sikunt wrote:

Over protective parents that shield their kids from sex make it hard on them as adults. They have to figure out all the “stuff” on their own.

I know a girl whose parents were very over protective, particularly her father. She was raised to see sex as something bad and dirty, and to avoid it. She doesn?t enjoy sex, in fact she hates it, because it always leaves her feeling dirty, guilty and like she has somehow gone behind her fathers back.

Now this has fucked her up emotionally, because as anybody who has had a relationship knows sex is a very important part of it. Every one of her past boyfriends has cheated on her, not necessarily cause they?ve been bad guys, but because their sexual needs as men had been neglected.

And she seems to have somehow connected sex with her father which is just?wrong. Im not saying that she should go out and slut it up, but she has been so repressed that sex with her partner is something wrong to her and not the act of love and trust that it should represent.

Her parents trying to ?protect? her from nasty titties and pee-pees as a child, has made it extremely hard for her to have a normal serious relationship as an adult. Who has done the real damage? The media flashing boobs on tv? Or her parents being so uptight and protective that her mind is warped?
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I wonder if those who ran to discuss this issue as if their kids should be protected from all nudity will respond to this?

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
sikunt wrote:

Over protective parents that shield their kids from sex make it hard on them as adults. They have to figure out all the “stuff” on their own.

I know a girl whose parents were very over protective, particularly her father. She was raised to see sex as something bad and dirty, and to avoid it. She doesn?t enjoy sex, in fact she hates it, because it always leaves her feeling dirty, guilty and like she has somehow gone behind her fathers back.

Now this has fucked her up emotionally, because as anybody who has had a relationship knows sex is a very important part of it. Every one of her past boyfriends has cheated on her, not necessarily cause they?ve been bad guys, but because their sexual needs as men had been neglected.

And she seems to have somehow connected sex with her father which is just?wrong. Im not saying that she should go out and slut it up, but she has been so repressed that sex with her partner is something wrong to her and not the act of love and trust that it should represent.

Her parents trying to ?protect? her from nasty titties and pee-pees as a child, has made it extremely hard for her to have a normal serious relationship as an adult. Who has done the real damage? The media flashing boobs on tv? Or her parents being so uptight and protective that her mind is warped?

I wonder if those who ran to discuss this issue as if their kids should be protected from all nudity will respond to this?[/quote]

Respond to a sample of 1? Ok. I know a girl whose parents let her watch all the titty movies on Skinomax when she was young, now she’s a whore. What’s the point?

To be clear, I don’t condone censorship and I know it is my job to protect my kids. I just jumped into this thread earlier because it is silly for people without kids to act like they know ANYTHING about what it like to raise them.

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[quote]doogie wrote:
Respond to a sample of 1? Ok. I know a girl whose parents let her watch all the titty movies on Skinomax when she was young, now she’s a whore. What’s the point?

To be clear, I don’t condone censorship and I know it is my job to protect my kids. I just jumped into this thread earlier because it is silly for people without kids to act like they know ANYTHING about what it like to raise them.[/quote]

So, you jump from teaching a kid a HEALTHY concept of sex to watching straight porn? The issue has never had anything to do with letting a kid watch porno. From the first post, it was about the simple concept of nudity. Why do you all keep jumping to PORN instead of keeping the topic on NUDITY?

Could it be because you have no point without doing that?

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
doogie wrote:
Respond to a sample of 1? Ok. I know a girl whose parents let her watch all the titty movies on Skinomax when she was young, now she’s a whore. What’s the point?

To be clear, I don’t condone censorship and I know it is my job to protect my kids. I just jumped into this thread earlier because it is silly for people without kids to act like they know ANYTHING about what it like to raise them.

So, you jump from teaching a kid a HEALTHY concept of sex to watching straight porn? The issue has never had anything to do with letting a kid watch porno. From the first post, it was about the simple concept of nudity. Why do you all keep jumping to PORN instead of keeping the topic on NUDITY?

Could it be because you have no point without doing that?[/quote]

Again, I don’t have a Zeb-like view of sex. The guy up aboves ONE example is totally meaningless. The only reason I got in on this thread was because it’s silly for people without kids to act like they have a clue what it takes to raise one.

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[quote]doogie wrote:
Professor X wrote:
doogie wrote:
Respond to a sample of 1? Ok. I know a girl whose parents let her watch all the titty movies on Skinomax when she was young, now she’s a whore. What’s the point?

To be clear, I don’t condone censorship and I know it is my job to protect my kids. I just jumped into this thread earlier because it is silly for people without kids to act like they know ANYTHING about what it like to raise them.

So, you jump from teaching a kid a HEALTHY concept of sex to watching straight porn? The issue has never had anything to do with letting a kid watch porno. From the first post, it was about the simple concept of nudity. Why do you all keep jumping to PORN instead of keeping the topic on NUDITY?

Could it be because you have no point without doing that?

Again, I don’t have a Zeb-like view of sex. The guy up aboves ONE example is totally meaningless. The only reason I got in on this thread was because it’s silly for people without kids to act like they have a clue what it takes to raise one.
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Why is it silly? If I can look at people as they grow up and see the changes that could have been made while they were young that would have prevented certain social issues or at least helped the person cope better, ity is silly to comment on this? That makes no sense. Are you saying it is impossible for me to make these observations?

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

Why is it silly? If I can look at people as they grow up and see the changes that could have been made while they were young that would have prevented certain social issues or at least helped the person cope better, ity is silly to comment on this? That makes no sense. Are you saying it is impossible for me to make these observations?[/quote]

Yes. Unless you were in the house with the family to see the entire picture, then yes. You can guess that things would be different “if only”, but that doesn’t mean you have a clue. Even observing the family 24 hours a day might not be enough, because you don’t have any idea what the responsibility/authority that the parent feels entails.

It’s like me giving you advice on being a minority in America. I can theorize how you could improve your lot in life, but I would be talking out of my ass.

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[quote]doogie wrote:
Professor X wrote:

Why is it silly? If I can look at people as they grow up and see the changes that could have been made while they were young that would have prevented certain social issues or at least helped the person cope better, ity is silly to comment on this? That makes no sense. Are you saying it is impossible for me to make these observations?

Yes. Unless you were in the house with the family to see the entire picture, then yes. You can guess that things would be different “if only”, but that doesn’t mean you have a clue. Even observing the family 24 hours a day might not be enough, because you don’t have any idea what the responsibility/authority that the parent feels entails.

It’s like me giving you advice on being a minority in America. I can theorize how you could improve your lot in life, but I would be talking out of my ass.
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Well then, no one, according to you, can make any claims of telling anyone what corrections they should make in their own lives, right? Why then do so many partake in this activity when it comes to politics, movies like Hostel, and public speeches in New Orleans? You have no clue if nudity alone is a negative in most households even if you monitored most households (according to you), so why have so many claimed it should be removed?

You spoke on the concept of Kwanzaa quite freely. How is it you considered yourself able to do so when you just stated here you have no clue about the lives of others? Why do you take part in such acts of hypocrisy at every turn but then hold up a stop sign on this issue? That sure is strange.

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I never said you’d be better off not celebrating it. I said it was stupid holiday started by a racist, communist, criminal.

The better analogy would be if I told you you’d be better off acting more white, because I’ve observed Black people and have seen that acting “too black” holds them back. I’d be talking out of my ass, since I have NO clue what it is like to be Black in America (even though I have “observed” many Black friends). Talking about how others should raise their kids (when you don’t have any) is just as dumb.

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[quote]doogie wrote:
I never said you’d be better off not celebrating it. I said it was stupid holiday started by a racist, communist, criminal.

The better analogy would be if I told you you’d be better off acting more white, because I’ve observed Black people and have seen that acting “too black” holds them back. I’d be talking out of my ass, since I have NO clue what it is like to be Black in America (even though I have “observed” many Black friends). Talking about how others should raise their kids (when you don’t have any) is just as dumb.[/quote]

No, you speaking at all on something you have no social clue about is what should be dumb if no one without kids can speak on the issue of raising kids. You contradict yourself daily if you now claim that personal experience is required to comment on issues.

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[quote]sikunt wrote:

Over protective parents that shield their kids from sex make it hard on them as adults. They have to figure out all the “stuff” on their own.

I know a girl whose parents were very over protective, particularly her father. She was raised to see sex as something bad and dirty, and to avoid it. She doesn?t enjoy sex, in fact she hates it, because it always leaves her feeling dirty, guilty and like she has somehow gone behind her fathers back.
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That is sad to hear. I would guess that there is more to the story though. Usually people that have been sexually molested as children respond this way.

Again, I would guess there is more to the story. And, I would suggest that she get some help.

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Are you talking about a naked statue in a museum or portn? A naked body is one thing. A chick getting donkey punched or two chicks a la Jennifer Connelly (Requiem for a Dream) is something completely different. However entertaining it may be for many adults, not something I’d want my 5-year old to see

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[quote]ALDurr wrote:
terribleivan wrote:
No sarcasm. The Black Panther wasn’t it? I thought it was a good choice.

Yes it is the Black Panther. He was one of my favorites because he was strong, proud leader that truly cared for his people.[/quote]

T’Challa, son of T’Chaka. Hero, King, Avenger.

You know he’s marrying Storm, right?

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[quote]harris447 wrote:
ALDurr wrote:
terribleivan wrote:
No sarcasm. The Black Panther wasn’t it? I thought it was a good choice.

Yes it is the Black Panther. He was one of my favorites because he was strong, proud leader that truly cared for his people.

T’Challa, son of T’Chaka. Hero, King, Avenger.

You know he’s marrying Storm, right?
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Yes. I am beginning to like that character more and more. If it ever makes it to being converted into movie form, they could really do something with it.

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[quote]terribleivan wrote:
malonetd wrote:
terribleivan wrote:
malonetd wrote:

Oh, and on last thing, terribleivan, if I ever saw you “severely beat a child with a belt” I would beat the living shit out you. I don’t know how that slipped by everybody. I only hope that you were exaggerating when you said that.

Malonetd - I am glad you care for children and would do that. I feel the same way. For the sake of reason and sanity, I’m going to elaborate on my view for disciple of a child.

I get no joy out of punishing my son. I do it because he needs correction so that he can grow and live a strong, disciplined, and fruitfull life. Will I spank his bottom with a belt - Yes. Will I spank his bottom hard - No. Why, you ask. It’s simple.

My son is young enough that the power put in the spanking is not as important as the association between the belt and bad behavior. So, when my boy is bad, I make sure he watches me as I go get my belt and I pull him over my lap. Then I give him one very light tap.

I try to make the process take about 1 minute or so, so my young son can anticpate the discipline. In his mind, the anticipation of the punishment is so built up that I don’t need to inflict harm. All I am doing is reinforcing that his behavior was bad.

To elaborate further, the swat I give him is so light that when he and I wrestle around when we are playing, he suffers more physical harm that he would from the belt swat.

After I swat him, I hug him, and I tell him I love him. I ask him why he got spanked, and he always tells me…he always knows. I ask him if he will stop doing whatever it was that got him in trouble, and he tells me yes.

Like I said, I get no joy out of punishing my son, but I do it because I love him and I care. I don’t do it out of anger. And, I think that the method that I use for discipline will help him grow into a strong man.

What you just described is a far cry from a “severe beating with a belt.”

I know…I embelish a touch at times. But, I would hope that you and other would approve of my style and adopt a similar style.[/quote]

Yeah, beating children sounds great. When can I start being just like you?

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There were always rumors aboutt Wesley Snipes playing him. (I suppose that, for a while, he was the go-to black super-hero guy.) Not too much now.

It could be a great movie, though. T’Challa’s got all these different facets of his life to work with, plus cool locations, plus in the comics he had these 6’ tall supermodel bodyguards.

Casting wise, I’d go with Don Cheadle. (Okay, I know he’s not right for it; I’m just a huge Don Cheadle fan.) How about the guy who played Adabese from Oz, who’s on Lost now? He’s acually African, too. Maybe Djimon Honsou?

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As far as avatars go, no one should have to change theirs because of children whose parents might allow them to look at T-Nation.

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[quote]harris447 wrote:
ALDurr wrote:
terribleivan wrote:
No sarcasm. The Black Panther wasn’t it? I thought it was a good choice.

Yes it is the Black Panther. He was one of my favorites because he was strong, proud leader that truly cared for his people.

T’Challa, son of T’Chaka. Hero, King, Avenger.

You know he’s marrying Storm, right?
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Yes, I caught up on it during my lunch hour in the bookstore.

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[quote]harris447 wrote:

There were always rumors aboutt Wesley Snipes playing him. (I suppose that, for a while, he was the go-to black super-hero guy.) Not too much now.

It could be a great movie, though. T’Challa’s got all these different facets of his life to work with, plus cool locations, plus in the comics he had these 6’ tall supermodel bodyguards.

Casting wise, I’d go with Don Cheadle. (Okay, I know he’s not right for it; I’m just a huge Don Cheadle fan.) How about the guy who played Adabese from Oz, who’s on Lost now? He’s acually African, too. Maybe Djimon Honsou?
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I think casting-wise, I would go with Micheal Jai White. He looks more like T’Challa in the comics, has the right build and is very athletic in his own right (trained martial artist). The guy who played Adabese and Djimon Honsou would be good in the movie, but not as T’Challa. Don Cheadle, nope. I am a huge Don Cheadle fan as well (I always felt the he was underrated for years), but I don’t think this would be the right role for him.

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[quote]jsbrook wrote:
As far as avatars go, no one should have to change theirs because of children whose parents might allow them to look at T-Nation. [/quote]

That pretty much sums it up. Same as swearing, if I don’t want my kid to see it, I got to close it before he does. Too bad, I’m a sloth…

|/ 3Toes

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[quote]ALDurr wrote:
harris447 wrote:

There were always rumors aboutt Wesley Snipes playing him. (I suppose that, for a while, he was the go-to black super-hero guy.) Not too much now.

It could be a great movie, though. T’Challa’s got all these different facets of his life to work with, plus cool locations, plus in the comics he had these 6’ tall supermodel bodyguards.

Casting wise, I’d go with Don Cheadle. (Okay, I know he’s not right for it; I’m just a huge Don Cheadle fan.) How about the guy who played Adabese from Oz, who’s on Lost now? He’s acually African, too. Maybe Djimon Honsou?

I think casting-wise, I would go with Micheal Jai White. He looks more like T’Challa in the comics, has the right build and is very athletic in his own right (trained martial artist). The guy who played Adabese and Djimon Honsou would be good in the movie, but not as T’Challa. Don Cheadle, nope. I am a huge Don Cheadle fan as well (I always felt the he was underrated for years), but I don’t think this would be the right role for him.[/quote]

Ooh, I didn’t even think of that guy. In terms of looks, physique, etc: definitely. I just think the guy might lack the acting chops.

Of course, we’re just beating around the bush. Only one man could play Black Panther: DENZEL!!!