[quote]mafzal4 wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
So you’ve got proof from some tome written in Saudi Arabia in 1978 that Aisha was at least 14, huh? All those other ahadith about the age of Aisha are lies, then, even though they are considered sahih by Muslims?
You should read this:
http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10197
It’s truly pathetic to watch Westerners side against their own civilization against people who want to destroy it.
So somebody’s wrong here. Either it’s Tabari, Ibn Kathir, Bukhari, Muslim, Dawud, or these Islamic propagandists you’ve quoted. I know who I believe.
No. It’s calling reading all the damn articles that have been posted, reading them thoroughly, because they ALL state she was nine at the time of marriage. That last post was talking about AFTER marriage, the period when the Islamic time began truly (around 610 AD - I believe the Islamc time began = when the Quran was fully revealed - but I’m not 100% sure), she was 14 when THAT happened. Get your facts straight please.
And yeah, you are one ignorant asshole. People who want to destroy it? Who are those people may I ask? Terrorists? Sure. Muslims? Get the fuck out. No, not Muslims. At least not as a whole. Misguided muslims - sure, but that goes for ANY religion. Terrorists, if they claim themselves to be Muslim, are truly delusional.
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On the Islamic Awareness link YOU posted, they said Aisha was 9 when Mohammed deflowered her. It’s right here:
[quote]Due to the apparent ignorance of many Muslims, possibly due to reading “modernist” apologetic literature like that mentioned above, a look at what the authentic sources of Islam say about the age at which cAishah married the Prophet(P) is in order. This way, before we move on to an analysis of the facts, we will first establish what the authentic Islamic facts are.
At this point, it should be mentioned that it is absolutely pointless from an Islamic standpoint to say that the age of cAishah is “not found in the Qur’ân”, since the textual sources of Islam are made up of both the Qur’ân and the Sunnah - and the Qur’ân tells us that. For those wanting (or needing) to learn more about the status of the Sunnah in Islam, please read An Introduction to the Sunnah, by Suhaib Hasan.
Now in regards to what the authentic Islamic sources actually say, it may come as a disappointment to some “modern” and “cultured” Muslims that there are four ahâdîth in Sahîh al-Bukhârî and three ahâdîth in Sahîh Muslim clearly state that cAishah was “nine years old” as the time that her marriage was consummated with the Prophet(P). These ahâdîth, with only slight variation, read as follows:
cAishah, may God be pleased with her, narrated that the Prophet(P) was betrothed (zawaj) to her when she was six years old and he consummated (nikah) his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years. (Sahîh al-Bukhârî, Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64)
Of the four ahâdîth in Sahîh al-Bukhari, two were narrated from cAishah (7:64 and 7:65), one from Abû Hishâm (5:236) and one via 'Ursa (7:88). All three of the ahâdîth in Sahîh Muslim have cAishah as a narrator. Additionally, all of the ahâdîth in both books agree that the marriage betrothal contract took place when cAishah was “six years old”, but was not consummated until she was “nine years old”. Additionally, a hadîth with the same text (matn) is reported in Sunan Abû Dâwûd. Needless to say, this evidence is - Islamically speaking - overwhelmingly strong and Muslims who deny it do so only by sacrificing their intellectual honesty, pure faith or both.
The rest of the article contains nothing but ad hominem, tu-quoque, and the “historical context” defense, none of which refute the fact that she was nine when he consummated the marriage.
I got this from YOUR article.