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It’s a function of my body type; my short torso leads to uber strong erectors.

To fix it, I’ve coupled my chest up tips from the “Sexy Squat” article (chest up, hands in, elbows down) with some serious leg work to build my squat. It was working great until I tried downhill skiing :wink:

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MR

[quote]bg100 wrote:
Yesterday you mentioned that you also seem to shift weight on to the stronger erector muscles, is this a bad thing to do and are your trying to correct it, or does it go along with having a particular body type like you mentioned?

Cheers,

Ben[/quote]

Mike, I guess I’m wondering if you know of a way to bring a weak leg up to the same strength as the other leg? Obviosly more work should be done for the weak leg but how much and how is this determined? Is there some sort of way to test? Percentage of a certain lift or something?

Hi Mike…

I set a new PR in clean (or would it be for clean? or in/for cleans?I simply don’t know the right phrase here)today. I’ve been practicing to teach a new group fitness class, and one of the exercises (believe it or not) is clean and press. Mind you, it’s with extremely light weights and ridiculous reps, but nevertheless it’s helped with my quickness in getting under the bar through sheer repetition.

Anyhoo, for a 6 foot, long-armed average-legged trainee, who hasn’t done cleans regularly since high school, but has some decent muscle mass (about 215 now), would a 255lb. clean from the floor be somewhat respectable? How much would it take for a experienced coach like you to be like, WOW? 315? 4 something?

I’d like to see how someone determines that the brahcialis is the limiting muscle group.

The two biggest issues IMO are poor lat strength compared to bodyweight (duh) and excessive bodyfat. You improve either and your chinning performance will improve.

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MR

[quote]cccp21 wrote:
What are the limiting muscle groups in the pullup? Is it the brachilais most of all? Or is it effective to isolate the lattisumus?
Brandon Green[/quote]

“neural confusion” not sure what it means either… just speculating on the possibilities. It could possibly mean an interuption in grooving patterns and consequent performance of non-isolated exercises. Maybe too much of it can affect the more complex movements that involve all lower body muscles together (ie. squat).

I can’t say I have any research to support this fear, just a thought. Even if it is true, it wouldn’t be a problem with most bodybuilders.

A combination of tight/overactive hip flexors and weak/lengthened/tight hammies. If people would fix the issues around BOTH sides of the pelvis, we’d have a lot less hamstring issues.

Stay strong
MR

[quote]Tags wrote:
What are your thoughts on what could be causing chronic hamstring injuries in an athlete, specifically a football player?

Vaugue question I know but just curious to get the ball rolling.

Thanks for your time!

Pat Battaglia[/quote]

Biceps brachaii strength can help you, but I wouldn’t call it limiting.

Just do more single-leg work on that leg. If it’s a small discrepancy, add a few reps. If it’s a big discrepancy, add another set.

And no, I don’t use %'s to compare lifts; this could be totally different depending on a person and their individual structure.

Stay strong
MR

[quote]sam747 wrote:
Mike, I guess I’m wondering if you know of a way to bring a weak leg up to the same strength as the other leg? Obviosly more work should be done for the weak leg but how much and how is this determined? Is there some sort of way to test? Percentage of a certain lift or something?[/quote]

Yeah, 315 would be pretty cool, especially if it was done w/good form. I wish I had more time to devote to the O-lifts, but I don’t really see it happening.

BTW, congrats on the PR and keep getting more of them!

Stay strong
MR

[quote]Norweige wrote:
Hi Mike…

I set a new PR in clean (or would it be for clean? or in/for cleans?I simply don’t know the right phrase here)today. I’ve been practicing to teach a new group fitness class, and one of the exercises (believe it or not) is clean and press. Mind you, it’s with extremely light weights and ridiculous reps, but nevertheless it’s helped with my quickness in getting under the bar through sheer repetition.

Anyhoo, for a 6 foot, long-armed average-legged trainee, who hasn’t done cleans regularly since high school, but has some decent muscle mass (about 215 now), would a 255lb. clean from the floor be somewhat respectable? How much would it take for a experienced coach like you to be like, WOW? 315? 4 something?[/quote]

And I would argue why they are so focused on isolation, unless they have a serious muscle imbalance. Last time I checked, the goal of bodybuilding is to build huge friggin’ muscles, in symmetry, and then lean out while holding onto as much of that hard earned muscle as possible. Why the obsession with isolation exercises?

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MR

[quote]IHateGymMorons wrote:
“neural confusion” not sure what it means either… just speculating on the possibilities. It could possibly mean an interuption in grooving patterns and consequent performance of non-isolated exercises. Maybe too much of it can affect the more complex movements that involve all lower body muscles together (ie. squat).

I can’t say I have any research to support this fear, just a thought. Even if it is true, it wouldn’t be a problem with most bodybuilders.[/quote]

Could knee issues, like improper patellar tracking, which causes a lot of pain and interfers with proper decelerating have anything to do with it as well?

[quote]Mike Robertson wrote:
A combination of tight/overactive hip flexors and weak/lengthened/tight hammies. If people would fix the issues around BOTH sides of the pelvis, we’d have a lot less hamstring issues.

Stay strong
MR

Tags wrote:
What are your thoughts on what could be causing chronic hamstring injuries in an athlete, specifically a football player?

Vaugue question I know but just curious to get the ball rolling.

Thanks for your time!

Pat Battaglia
[/quote]

It could; you could argue that the lack of activation/firing from the quads would lead to overactivity/compensation in the hammies, causing an increase in strains.

Stay strong
MR

[quote]Tags wrote:
Could knee issues, like improper patellar tracking, which causes a lot of pain and interfers with proper decelerating have anything to do with it as well?

Mike Robertson wrote:
A combination of tight/overactive hip flexors and weak/lengthened/tight hammies. If people would fix the issues around BOTH sides of the pelvis, we’d have a lot less hamstring issues.

Stay strong
MR

Tags wrote:
What are your thoughts on what could be causing chronic hamstring injuries in an athlete, specifically a football player?

Vaugue question I know but just curious to get the ball rolling.

Thanks for your time!

Pat Battaglia

[/quote]

“Why the obsession with isolation exercises?”

I don’t know, ask a bodybuilder.

Like I said, it’s a bodybuilder thing and wouldn’t do much good for someone like you unless you had a special need. I simply wondered if you had some kind of philosophy that was like “no never, stupid approach because etc…”

I personally don’t use it, the only people that seem to use it are stiff, unathletic, roided up machine junkies who train to failure twice a day 6.5 times per week.

So would you reccomend a lot of static stretching of the quads, hip flexors, hammies, and some strengthing of the hammies and glutes? Am I in the ball park?

Thanks again,
Pat Battaglia

[quote]Mike Robertson wrote:
It could; you could argue that the lack of activation/firing from the quads would lead to overactivity/compensation in the hammies, causing an increase in strains.

Stay strong
MR

Tags wrote:
Could knee issues, like improper patellar tracking, which causes a lot of pain and interfers with proper decelerating have anything to do with it as well?

Mike Robertson wrote:
A combination of tight/overactive hip flexors and weak/lengthened/tight hammies. If people would fix the issues around BOTH sides of the pelvis, we’d have a lot less hamstring issues.

Stay strong
MR

Tags wrote:
What are your thoughts on what could be causing chronic hamstring injuries in an athlete, specifically a football player?

Vaugue question I know but just curious to get the ball rolling.

Thanks for your time!

Pat Battaglia

[/quote]

That would be a great start, and don’t forget about dynamic stretching pre-workout.

Stay strong
MR

[quote]Tags wrote:
So would you reccomend a lot of static stretching of the quads, hip flexors, hammies, and some strengthing of the hammies and glutes? Am I in the ball park?

Thanks again,
Pat Battaglia

Mike Robertson wrote:
It could; you could argue that the lack of activation/firing from the quads would lead to overactivity/compensation in the hammies, causing an increase in strains.

Stay strong
MR

Tags wrote:
Could knee issues, like improper patellar tracking, which causes a lot of pain and interfers with proper decelerating have anything to do with it as well?

Mike Robertson wrote:
A combination of tight/overactive hip flexors and weak/lengthened/tight hammies. If people would fix the issues around BOTH sides of the pelvis, we’d have a lot less hamstring issues.

Stay strong
MR

Tags wrote:
What are your thoughts on what could be causing chronic hamstring injuries in an athlete, specifically a football player?

Vaugue question I know but just curious to get the ball rolling.

Thanks for your time!

Pat Battaglia

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Thanks a lot for your time MR,

Cheers

I’m out; see you tomorrow from 9-10 EST!

Stay strong
MR

Thanks Mike! You stay strong too! Later

[quote]sully’s wrote:
I know this may be a difficult question to answer but here goes.

Is there a percentage of your back squat that you should be able to flat back good morning to be considered “balanced”.

I ask this as another T-Nation member “stallion” posted a video of him squatting around 475 pounds for reps and was asking for critiques.
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=773353

He stated that he does 396 lbs standing and 440 lbs for seated good mornings. I found those numbers for GM’s to be quite impressive.[/quote]

my new squat 1rm is 528lbs now after finishing smolov squat specialization program.

i did seated good mornings low bar position, full range of motion ( chest to bench) with 440lbs for 5 reps on my previous program (boris sheiko) - this was my record 5rm. after this sheiko program my 1rm squat was 462lbs.

so effectively i did 5 reps on the seated good morning with 95% of my 1rm squat.

as robertson said it is all about leverages. at the moment the legs are my weakest link in the squat so i have to work on them doing stuff like bulgarian squats, step ups, and half squats from a dead start as my sticky point is pretty near the end of my lift.

on the same sheiko routine i did 396lbs for 5 reps in the standing good morning. torso parallell to floor. full rom, low bar position.

i am not sure how healthy such heavy good mornings are. the day after i did the 396lbs reps i had severely problems walking. it hurt for every step, and it was more than ordinary doms. but it healed eventually. i was worried i had hurt my back severely, but it is fine now.

from what i have read on articles on t-mag, having such a strong good morning is not unusual for a person with a bodytype like me.

i don’t plan on doing heavy gm’s in the near future as i need to work on my weak points which is my legs.

my goal is to get to a 300kg squat, and then eventually set a new national record, setting a new target of like 360kgs… i will base most of my squatting on the smolov program. it simply kicks ass for the squat.

current bw with clothes is about 95kgs, and i have not yet competed in a meet. i’ve trained for five years. and i think i am the one in my gym that work the hardest. and harder i will work. to become the best you really need to work hard.

the mind is the most important asset for a lifter, and also having a harmonic life on other areas, and a supporting family.

my father has handmade a squat-box for me and a wodden plate i can do elevated deadlifts on.

lastly i have to add that i love the squat as a mother loves her child. and i think passion is an extremely important asset.

when i train i get in my zone, and i can become pretty rude to those who interupt me, esp. those who do out of ignorance or stupidity. i am in the gym to achieve something, not to socialize.

the attitude of many people are just ridiculous.

if i had been doing drugs, i’d probably be gone long into the 300kg territory already, but i won’t use illegal compounds. i already beat every juicer in the gym when it comes to squatting, and i’m damn proud of it as well.

to become the best you have to suck motivation everywhere you can.

my lifts in training are now

240kg-110kg-200kg @ bw approx 95 (w/clothes)

i still consider me a rookie in a powerlifting context.

i wish you all good progress!

“lungs on fire, wheels bursting, you fight to survive like a wild lion in a cage! Moments of pain you never will forget! Now there is no holding back! This is how the tough guys play. This is our playground. We wear no fear. Kingdom of pain, we shall conqer your armies, defeat your artillery, destroy your battleships, eat your intestines and forever put your soil into ashes! We will take no prisoners, the pain does not scare us. WE ARE MEN WHO WILL FIGHT TILL WE BLEED AND DIE!”

-stallion (you won’t find this poem anywhere else, 'cause i invented it. :slight_smile:

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