This has always been funny to me. Used to try and get my British/kiwi roommates to just eat donuts.
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Yer but donuts are fried so they arenāt healthy. LOL
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I feel like this thread is a perfect microcosm of what it feels like to watch tv.
It started off with a legitimate question (even if it was from a meth head who is covered in bees,) followed by well-intentioned fitness ideas, then devolves into fairy bread vs. donughts.
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The Netflix algorithm explained!
Donuts*
No need to add silly letters that arenāt pronounced.
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Iāve seen you talk about this a couple times recently and it definitely is interesting to me. I suppose Iāve never really thought about metabolism beyond an event - like we know which energy zone is going to prefer which source, but I havenāt really considered that from a point of whole day consequence.
Typically, things fall into single-variable buckets: like too much training = elevated cortisol = burnout (reduced motivation, etc.). We know the human body doesnāt work that simplistically, so youāre proposing a more elegant thought process: too much training = glycogen depletion = (perhaps) elevated cortisol = lethargy = sugar cravings and so on.
Iām not sure Iāve totally bought into burning glycogen is more negatively consequential than fat, and that may not even be your point, but I do like the more holistic picture.
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Not too much period: too much at too high an intensity. Assuming a goal of body recomposition vs performance, although even then its possible to train too hard for performance
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Fair. I was throwing out a generic ātoo much,ā which dilutes the conversation.
Iām more than willing to believe I look like crap because I train too hard and donāt eat enough bacon! Tongue in cheek, but that is the slippery slope of the āhard gainer.ā
Anyway, Iām a little curious on the performance vs physique part here. I always felt like athletes were maybe a little bit more fragile. Maybe itās just easier to measure a 1% drop in performance than a 1% degradation in body composition, but if you have some muscle, and suck up brutally low calories, youāll end up looking good; I donāt think the same can be said for performing. Maybe I am too much of a diva though.
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I honestly think you may have come up with the premise for my next e-book, haha. You DID effectively sum up the abbreviated training boon. Itās funny though: the people that NEED the message are never the ones that receive it, and the ones in LEAST need of hearing it will latch on. Hard gainers tend to be stimulus addicts, and that includes the stimulus of training. They want to train ALL the time, as hard as possible, and then they want to take ALL the stimulants before, after and during training, and then they wonder why they are never hungry and, in turn, why they never grow.
Endos are naturally sloth inclined, want to just do 3 sets of 5 with 10 minutes between sets, which gives them enough time to drink milk and eat meatloaf sandwiches between sets, and then go take a nap once the workout is done. Both camps could probably stand to just do a season of the otherās style.
Iāve been listening to a lot of Brad Kearns recently on the discussion of training LESS, or with less intensity, in order to boost performance. And, of course, Dan John has been spreading that message for decades with āEasy Strengthā. I think the fundamental issue we run into is conflating muscle growth with improved performance, when the activities that result in one are not the same as the other.
Which every OTHER decent athlete already figured out, and started doing their training in phases to overcome this. But weāre just simple meatheads.
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Have you considered capocolo as a substitute?
Iāve been developing these in my secret laboratory-
And Iām almost certain that Iāve found the secret pick that unlocks unlimited muscle gain.
The only thing Iām missing at this point is the unlimited muscle gain. But Itās right around the corner. I can feel it.
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@SkyzykS that looks amazing - how much salt and fat do you feel comfortable with in a meal? I ask because I think youāre more CV aware than most of us.
I think this is hugely underappreciated. Thereās an art to figuring out the line between patience (giving your plan some time to work) and insanity (keeping at the same actions and expecting new results). I donāt know how to measure it, but itās one of those things you can tell when it comes up.
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Not much more than 500 mg. or so, but I keep mine on the low side. Iām not too concerned with fats as long as theyāre unadulterated and naturally occurring, but I do keep things on the leaner cuts side. Not low fat, but nothing crazy either.
For sources of added fats its either no salt butter or evo.
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Not to keep killing this horse, but itās very much on my mind now and interesting to me, I also remember the football studs (an absolute performance sport) always pissed all the coaches off because they were so ālazy.ā They werenāt out there stressing out, ever, and when it was time to show up, theyād turn it on, do something insane, and then just walk off and make fun of the mortals.
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As an addendum to that, I just got back from my annual pcp check up- bp is at 116/75!
Iām like, really good at that. Everything else, ehhhā¦
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Thatās awesome! Thatās the metric I struggle with.
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