Motivation? What Seperates You?

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[quote]dre wrote:
kennedy35 wrote:
dre wrote:

It’s not a shitty answer, it’s the truth. So you didn’t come on here looking for people to challenge you, I was wrong on that. But you still came on the internet looking for motivation that you can’t provide yourself. That’s why you aren’t ready. True motivation comes from within, it comes from wanting to be better at all costs.

You can also tell you aren’t ready by the language you are using when you post. “might motivate me”, “Hopefully a month from now I will be on a different path” [/quote]

Dre,
Listen. I appreciate you owning up to being wrong about the challenge part. As far as the “language” part your talking about I think your looking too deep but, time will tell. Otherwise, I see that your a dog lover so I really can’t have any beef with you so I call a truce.

I was looking for what motivates others so that hopefully I can look at myself and figure out why I cannot be consistent as others. I thought it was a good idea.

Maybe that will help. Maybe it won’t. I have gotten alot of good info in this thread. But, at the very least I am becoming a part of a new community here at T-Nation and that’s a start.

I don’t know where or why this thread got so negative at times. I suppose many of you have listened or read enough posts on motivation that your sick of hearing people’s excuses. Don’t know. I suppose that would annnoy me too.

But, in my ORGIGINAL post I mentioned how I am over excuses and simply wanted to know what motivated people. It was good to hear and interesting to learn.

I got what I need out of it and now it is up to me.

I will be starting a V-Diet Blog on Tuesday (my supplements will be in then).

Thanks again.

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[quote]Cortes wrote:
Good thread. There’s a lot of good advice for you here. You need to make a decision to change NOW, this instant, any further procrastination or plans for doing better in the future are only evidence that you are not ready to make a commitment.

One thing I have NOT noticed discussed that jumped out at me from the very first post was the fact that your self-talk is probably exactly your problem.

You say you beat yourself up and you have a poor image of yourself. Well, the subconscious mind will unalterably, good or bad, deliver to us the exact results of whatever it is we program it with. For example, if I see myself as fat, out of shape, etc, then my mind will direct my body to take actions which fulfill that image of myself.

The mind will go so far as to induce cravings for food you shouldn’t eat, or sabotage your motivation to get to the gym at the last instant.

Conversely, if you tell yourself that you are a bodybuilder (or whatever), that you ALWAYS make the right food choices, that you ALWAYS get to the gym, that you ALWAYS live a healthy lifestyle, and if you will envision yourself in as much detail as possible as looking like your ideal,

You will find yourself automatically becoming that person. You don’t even have to believe this. It is that powerful.

I would venture to say that a lot of the guys here that stay motivated do not do so for the reasons they have stated, but rather because they talk to themselves in a manner which is conducive to inspiring motivation. This involves both visualization as well as the words you speak, both orally and in your head.

If you are interested in this subject, and you should be, then I HIGHLY recommend the books What to Say When You Talk to Yourself, and The Self-Talk Solution, both by Shad Helmstetter (in that order).

Real change does not come from willpower. In fact, willpower is a myth. Real, lasting change comes from a revolution in the way you see yourself and the words you use to describe yourself and your actions.

Hope this helps. It’s for real.[/quote]

This is an interesting point. I have only become aware of this lately, but I have extremely positive self talk/image with all the things that I am good at, especially physical endevours.

It sounds stupid and its not really a concious thing but I imagine myself being the best at what I do. When rugby was my focus I visualised myself playing at the top level for Australia, I never got to that level but I feel that the mind set gave me confidence and motivation.

Now that I weight train I imagine myself with an olympia physique or squatting 600 pounds raw, even though these are not my goals. It just puts me in a positive frame of mind. I couldnt stop doing it if I tried. I now take the same approach to my career.

I would also like to say that it is rare that drastic change in behaviour is long lasting. Find the first small step and take it NOW.
I don’t think anyone here that has been at this for a few years will say that the just woke up and decided to live this lifestyle and changed their whole life around in a day.

Most here will have gradually refined their lifestyle over a number of years. You don’t have to change everything overnight.

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I beg to differ. Change as much as you can, as fast as you can.

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[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
well @ 5’6 160 you dont really seem like youve been training hardcore for 6 years either. take it how you want but this is the bodybuilding section.[/quote]

Today’s workout:

Decline Bench (machine)
3x10
450 pounds

One Arm Pullups (machine, 70 counterweight)
3x10

Dragon Flags (everything below shoulder blades off bench)
3x10 (2 seconds down, 2 seconds hold, 2 seconds up)

Leg Press (machine)
3x12
1,080 pounds

How’s your bodybuilding coming along?

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[quote]ddinante wrote:
I beg to differ. Change as much as you can, as fast as you can.[/quote]

I understand where you are coming from. what mean is, no one is going to go from zero trainging to 5 days a week training, and go from eating 3 meals a day and shit snacks in between with their calories all over the place, to eating five or more times a day callorie controlled clean food overnight.

This stuff takes a lot of knowledge and experience to get right, not to mention the motivation that is required. It doesn’t apear overnight.

The v diet and others like it will help him get the food right, but what happens when he goes off it? he will still need to learn and implament healthy eating habits into his lifestyle and this will always take time because it involves trial and error, no plan is perfect.

Some people are able to make drastic changes quickly more successfully than others but getting this right and changeing your lifestyle takes time.

I think lots of people are so concerned with getting
everything right from the start that they put off starting untill they think they are prepared. Start with what you know, then implament new things as you learn them.

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inch by inch

I agreed with the one guy whos words were almost poetry, excpet the weight doesnt want me to move it… The weight wants to crush me, and I can sit there and let it, or I can tell it “F**K You” push it off my chest, and let it try again…

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http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/content/view/1918/218/

Kai has some good stuff in there…

whats my motivatin tho?

I refuse to let anybody work harder than me…yea I said it!

DG

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Motivation is completely internal for me.

I just want to be better than I am, and I really enjoy lifting weights, setting PRs, and looking better.

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[quote]forlife wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
well @ 5’6 160 you dont really seem like youve been training hardcore for 6 years either. take it how you want but this is the bodybuilding section.

Today’s workout:

Decline Bench (machine)
3x10
450 pounds

One Arm Pullups (machine, 70 counterweight)
3x10

Dragon Flags (everything below shoulder blades off bench)
3x10 (2 seconds down, 2 seconds hold, 2 seconds up)

Leg Press (machine)
3x12
1,080 pounds

How’s your bodybuilding coming along?[/quote]

6 ft 205 pounds, so better than yours. keep at those dragon flys pal.

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[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
6 ft 205 pounds, so better than yours. keep at those dragon flys pal.[/quote]

Quit judging others, and realize that bodybuilding is about how much iron you can move, not about how much scale you can move.

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[quote]D Day wrote:

This video always makes me want to push myself everytime I see it. It sends a shiver down my spine.[/quote]

Wow. I have had the pleasure and honor of seeing the Hoyts compete first hand because I live in a suburb of Boston.

If I can’t finish the V-Diet after seeing something like that then I have a problem.

Thanks for reminding me of those two special men. Thanks for reminding me of how important your body is and how much some people take it for granted. Great, great stuff.

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Being a “hard worker” does not necessarily translate into being able to work hard and consistently, when it comes to training. You may be able to give a strong mental effort, but some people can’t push past a certain level of physical pain and discomfort.

Many people train consistently, but never get to the intensity level they need to be at, to see the results they want…because they can’t push through the pain. To be successful at bodybuilding, you almost have to be somewhat masochistic, to where you actually enjoy and thrive on the pain.

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[quote]Doyle wrote:

I would also like to say that it is rare that drastic change in behaviour is long lasting. Find the first small step and take it NOW.
I don’t think anyone here that has been at this for a few years will say that the just woke up and decided to live this lifestyle and changed their whole life around in a day.

Most here will have gradually refined their lifestyle over a number of years. You don’t have to change everything overnight.[/quote]

Doyle,
That is very helpful. Thank you. And it makes a whole lot of sense. I have tried to change drastically and failed several times. I realize the V-Diet can be seen as drastic as well but, its something I can handle for 30 days and then I will see where I’m at.

At that point I am thinking that 25-30 lbs. of weight lost and most likely a big chunk of body fat gone will help me to take the next level to better overall health and a more consistent eating and working regiment for life.

Thanks

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[quote]forlife wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
6 ft 205 pounds, so better than yours. keep at those dragon flys pal.

Quit judging others, and realize that bodybuilding is about how much iron you can move, not about how much scale you can move.[/quote]

Actually bodybuilding is about the physique and condition you bring onto the stage and your ability to show it in posing. How much iron you can move and how much the scale shows are both tools to the end goal.

You must be confused with powerlifting, or olympic lifting, or strongman competition(replace iron with “weight” and add in some endurance requirement).

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[quote]forlife wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
6 ft 205 pounds, so better than yours. keep at those dragon flys pal.

Quit judging others, and realize that bodybuilding is about how much iron you can move, not about how much scale you can move.[/quote]

your thinking of powerlifting, wrong forum.

and dude im not here to judge anyone (even though bodybuilding is most certainly all about judging) but im not here to sugar coat anything either. like not everyone has to be a bodybuilder, not everybody has to be a pharmacist or a surgeon or a basketball player either. if you cant find the motivation to be a bodybuilder maybe you should find something you can get motivated about and do that instead.

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May I recommend these other activities instead, perhaps?

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  1. I want to be built like a man instead of a boy

  2. Its something that i enjoy and i like the physical challenge of it.

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[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
if you cant find the motivation to be a bodybuilder maybe you should find something you can get motivated about and do that instead.[/quote]

My comment to the OP was that you CAN make a significant turnaround in your life, even if you haven’t lived in a gym since you were a teenager. I’ve done it, and so have others.

It’s ridiculous for you to claim that only “real bodybuilders” have done it their whole lives.

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[quote]forlife wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
if you cant find the motivation to be a bodybuilder maybe you should find something you can get motivated about and do that instead.

My comment to the OP was that you CAN make a significant turnaround in your life, even if you haven’t lived in a gym since you were a teenager. I’ve done it, and so have others.

It’s ridiculous for you to claim that only “real bodybuilders” have done it their whole lives. [/quote]

i dont think any bodybuilder has ever

A) trained off and on

B) wondered what their motivation for training was.

you shouldnt have to think about it, it doesnt even matter what your motives are if you dont have the determination to do anything.

thats why im saying not everyone has to pursue bodybuilding, it isnt for everyone anyway. but i think everyone, for the sake of peace of mind if nothing else, find something they can do where they dont have to ask themselves every day “why am i even doing this”. cause i cant picture doing something and wondering that no matter what it is recreational or otherwise. so basically all im saying is get in where you fit in.

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[quote]mr popular wrote:
May I recommend these other activities instead, perhaps?

Forums - The Sand Trap .com [/quote]

i thought the second one was going to be about playing with sand. i was ready to sign up before i even clicked the link.